*** How to build your diet (for Teenagers) ***

[rob1992]

You can trust labels to some extent but searching it up online to get the exact information is your best bet.

when i went on fitday and searched for baked beans, it came up with the nutritional values for baked beans, when i compared this to the values on the tin i had, they were completely different.

you saying i should trust the fitday values instead of those on the back of the actual tin?

[zepplin92]

Example of label misleading:

Drinking a gallon of non fat milk = 9 grams of fat. Not so "nonfat" now huh?

this is true, fat free products still can have up to 0.49g of fat per serving...

so there could be up to 8 grams of fat in a gallon of fat free milk.

per serving it still has virtually no fat, but for people who count to the .10g it matters.

[RMHSLB]

you guys mad im stylin on your breakfast

Total

842

37.4

51.0

76.0

Egg, whole, poached

285

19.8

1.5

25.1

Bread

207

2.6

39.5

6.0

OSCAR MAYER, Ham (water added, honey)

350

15.0

10.0

45.0



Total

842

37.4

51.0

76.0

[baco_bacon]

Good post, repped when I can.
^^^^ linebacker, my breakfast is better

[Addict3d]

1.) Technically eggs are the best protein source
2.) Since when is ground beef cheap?

But good info for a beginner.

[Teench]

yea? guess what i eat on a normal day:
oats,whey,banana milkshake

17-18oz ribeye steak with 2 grilled potatoes

pb n j sandwich

king crab

17-18oz ribeye steak with 2 grilled potatoes

half bag of family size Dorito chips


u mad?

God damn your ****ing rich. lol. You need to eat more though.

[ZionNYC]

when i went on fitday and searched for baked beans, it came up with the nutritional values for baked beans, when i compared this to the values on the tin i had, they were completely different.

you saying i should trust the fitday values instead of those on the back of the actual tin?

How different were they? Fitday's values could be just regular baked beans but your can may have other ingredients in it (sauces and stuff). Trust the can for unique items but if it's bulk items (like milk and such) use fitday. Look at your can. Is the only ingredient "baked beans"?

[ZionNYC]

1.) Technically eggs are the best protein source
2.) Since when is ground beef cheap?

But good info for a beginner.

It is cheap in many places.

Eggs have the highest percentage of bio available protein. Even though they have the best bio available protein, one egg may have 7 or 8 grams of Protein. That is too little.

[derdog909]

i have never once watched my fiber intake and have had no problems

and i went with my dad to a cardiologist to check my heart murmur
while there my mom asked if it was a problem that i eat a lot of sat fat and cholesterol
wanna know what he said?
its not a problem because he is young and very active



i hope this does not get stickied

[rob1992]

How different were they? Fitday's values could be just regular baked beans but your can may have other ingredients in it (sauces and stuff). Trust the can for unique items but if it's bulk items (like milk and such) use fitday. Look at your can. Is the only ingredient "baked beans"?

this was my point. that if someone eats a tin of baked beans, they wont be getting the number of calories etc that it says on fitday, because of other things. so people should know that they will have to input alot of values into fitday at the start if they want it to be accurate. but once you have gotten over the first stage where you have to put everything in, it is very good

[rob1992]

also i remember seeing something about dietary cholesterol not being bad for you, mainly in topics about egg yolks etc

[ZionNYC]

i have never once watched my fiber intake and have had no problems

and i went with my dad to a cardiologist to check my heart murmur
while there my mom asked if it was a problem that i eat a lot of sat fat and cholesterol
wanna know what he said?
its not a problem because he is young and very active



i hope this does not get stickied

Getting into a habit of eating high saturated fat and bad cholesterol is bad for you.

Want to really argue if a high-fiber, high-protein, low saturated fat diet is worst better than a diet filled with cholesterol, saturated fat, and unhealthy foods? You don't have to follow this but this is for people who want to be healthy overall and gain mass or loose fat.

[isupply]

you need saturated fat to produce test. so you shouldnt avoid it in your diet

[ZionNYC]

also i remember seeing something about dietary cholesterol not being bad for you, mainly in topics about egg yolks etc

Just like steroids are not bad for you unless you abuse them? Lol. That's what people say to make excuses for their ****ty diet.

Dietary BAD cholesterol is bad for you and dietary GOOD cholesterol is good for you. The argument is that eggs increase both bad and good. That's true, but the point is that it still increases bad cholesterol, which is bad for you.

Most people die of heart disease in the West. Do you want to be another? Get into a habit of eating heart healthy foods that are filled with soluble fiber, low sat fat, and normal amounts of cholest. My diets aren't low in cholesterol, they have a normal amount of cholestrol, which is great for a teenager.

[ZionNYC]

you need saturated fat to produce test. so you shouldnt avoid it in your diet

I knew this would come up. 15g of saturated fat is enough to produce test. I don't think you would be worrying about producing test when the doctor puts you on heart medication. Saturated fat increases bad cholesterol which is bad for you. Unsaturated fat increases good cholesterol which is good for you.

[derdog909]

Just like steroids are not bad for you unless you abuse them? Lol. That's what people say to make excuses for their ****ty diet.

Dietary BAD cholesterol is bad for you and dietary GOOD cholesterol is good for you. The argument is that eggs increase both bad and good. That's true, but the point is that it still increases bad cholesterol, which is bad for you.

Most people die of heart disease in the West. Do you want to be another? Get into a habit of eating heart healthy foods that are filled with soluble fiber, low sat fat, and normal amounts of cholest. My diets aren't low in cholesterol, they have a normal amount of cholestrol, which is great for a teenager.

1. this is a bodybuilding site. not a health site
2. you have no sources to back up what you say. you are 16 which means you have no formal education in this either. why would we believe you?

[ZionNYC]

1. this is a bodybuilding site. not a health site
2. you have no sources to back up what you say. you are 16 which means you have no formal education in this either. why would we believe you?

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson76.htm

Indeed, keeping cholesterol levels under control will enhance overall health, and prolong ones training efforts and quality of life. This article aims to demystify the many, often confusing, aspects of cholesterol metabolism, while showing how one can improve their cholesterol profile and improve the quality of their health.

I never said to keep cholesterol levels low. I said to keep cholesterol levels neither high nor low. Do you think that 350mg of cholesterol is low? The FDA says 300 so that's actually 50mg higher than what the government says. That's how most of my diets are shaped.

[derdog909]

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson76.htm



I never said to keep cholesterol levels low. I said to keep cholesterol levels neither high nor low. Do you think that 350mg of cholesterol is low? The FDA says 300 so that's actually 50mg higher than what the government says. That's how most of my diets are shaped.

1. not a good source. pull up some more academic sources
2. kid in the title it says for teenagers. nowhere does that article specify teenagers

if we were middle aged i would not be giving you a hard time as health is important but we are teenagers.

[ZionNYC]

1. not a good source. pull up some more academic sources
2. kid in the title it says for teenagers. nowhere does that article specify teenagers

if we were middle aged i would not be giving you a hard time as health is important but we are teenagers.

I'm just trying to say that overall health is important as well and that don't start going into bad habits now because it can harm you in the future.

[ZionNYC]

also i remember seeing something about dietary cholesterol not being bad for you, mainly in topics about egg yolks etc

You shouldn't really go over 2 yolks a day. I know Dave Pulumbo's diet has you eating 12 eggs a day. 12 whole eggs is insane.

[ZionNYC]

I got this in email from a mod or admin:

"Hey Zion,

Thanks for the great post. The current stickies kinda already cover nutrition, so I'm not going to stick it for now. Will do later if enough demand builds up for one.

I repped you for it, nonetheless."

Anyways, where are these articles, that show that high levels of bad cholesterol and saturated fat is alright for teenagers to take?

[MnLifter21]

I personally would put milk higher up, at least in the sense of availability. Milk is something offered everyday in every school, and is a great source of protein and cals. Just my two sense, great post though.

[Dawes]

Just pointing out here. If the labels don't show accurate information the company can be prosecuted. So a shot in the dark here but maybe it's at their best interests to tell the truth perhaps nub.

[rob1992]

You shouldn't really go over 2 yolks a day. I know Dave Pulumbo's diet has you eating 12 eggs a day. 12 whole eggs is insane.

why shouldnt you go over 2yolks a day?

[XxJettaracerxX]

Lots of broscience...

[rob1992]

Lots of broscience...

well to be fair its not like he's studying this at uni or does it for a living, alot of things that people say could be considered broscience, but yes i agree to a certain extent

[ZionNYC]

Just pointing out here. If the labels don't show accurate information the company can be prosecuted. So a shot in the dark here but maybe it's at their best interests to tell the truth perhaps nub.

Most butters that have no transfat really have transfat but you get 0 when you round the number (like 0.35). Nonfat milk has a gram of fat in two cups. They just round their numbers, and if you're a fan of butter products, you can get a big amount of transfat in your "no transfat" butter.

[ZionNYC]

Lots of broscience...

But I was repped by a mod saying "nice thread". It's not like I'm pulling these things out of my ass.

The whole conversation here is about cholesterol levels. The reason you should go over 2 yolks is because two yolks is already 450mg of cholesterol. Add milk, meat, and cheese and you can get 4x the recommended amount. There's a limit to these things.

[XxJettaracerxX]

Well its like this guy is going off of only what the FDA says for cholesterol n shiz, everybody's bodies are different, therefore we have different tolerances. And I'm sure if Dave Palumbo was anyone's PT or dietitian, they would do exactly as he says. IMO, I think it's smart to read various articles especially from pro BB's and PL's. They have been pretty much been training their whole lives, look at their pictures from when they were teens before gear... Obviously they were doing something right.

[ZionNYC]

Well its like this guy is going off of only what the FDA says for cholesterol n shiz, everybody's bodies are different, therefore we have different tolerances. And I'm sure if Dave Palumbo was anyone's PT or dietitian, they would do exactly as he says. IMO, I think it's smart to read various articles especially from pro BB's and PL's. They have been pretty much been training their whole lives, look at their pictures from when they were teens before gear... Obviously they were doing something right.

Yea everybody is different and I agree with you on the articles. That's why I had that article posted from this very site.