RUN FASTER.. Should I take Juggernaught's Winztrol or what??

[jhonnybravo32]

Hey everyone. Ill be playing college football next year and im looking for something to increase my speed and athleticism. I am already pretty fast but there is always room for improvement. I know most sprinters take Winstrol but ive run into this Juggernaught's Winztrol supplement and wonder how that fares. Any advice would be appreciated. Is there anything that can help me increase speed at a fast rate? Thank you.

[neXen]

Hey everyone. Ill be playing college football next year and im looking for something to increase my speed and athleticism. I am already pretty fast but there is always room for improvement. I know most sprinters take Winstrol but ive run into this Juggernaught's Winztrol supplement and wonder how that fares. Any advice would be appreciated. Is there anything that can help me increase speed at a fast rate? Thank you.

Winstrol is the full blown steroid
while
Winztrol is a methylated PH that needs to be dosed much higher than recommended on the bottle.

I dont know that Winny has any effect on VO2 max or the like, but it could be my misconception.


Also, dont you get tested?

[DA_MOSS]

Hey everyone. Ill be playing college football next year and im looking for something to increase my speed and athleticism. I am already pretty fast but there is always room for improvement. I know most sprinters take Winstrol but ive run into this Juggernaught's Winztrol supplement and wonder how that fares. Any advice would be appreciated. Is there anything that can help me increase speed at a fast rate? Thank you.

no ph or supplement will increase your speed and athleticism

[nkh]

no ph or supplement will increase your speed and athleticism

Surely you're not saying that an increase in size, strength, muscular workload capacity, or endurance by taking supplements with a solid training regimen won't help someone be faster or more athletic?

Semantics ftw.

[sandaltan]

running speed is natural ability and technique. strength has little to do with it. roids wont help someone run faster.

sorry.

[ZB126]

running speed is natural ability and technique. strength has little to do with it. roids wont help someone run faster.

sorry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Johnson_%28sprinter%29

[Muffinhunter]

running speed is natural ability and technique. strength has little to do with it. roids wont help someone run faster.

sorry.

Thats why no sprinters squat and leg press religiously... all they do is run run run, right?

Hell, look at sprinters nowadays. They could all enter fitness shows and probably win outright - they are jacked.

And Ben Johnson... nuff said.

[marseea1]

Sprinters Rely heavily on weight training as well as just doing sprints as training. But to say weight training wont help you run faster is just silly. All Olympic level sprinters do lots of weight training. Not just legs but the entire body.

BTW: plyometrics are the best way besides weight training to increase speed and explosive power.

[ZB126]

Thats why no sprinters squat and leg press religiously... all they do is run run run, right?

Hell, look at sprinters nowadays. They could all enter fitness shows and probably win outright - they are jacked.

And Ben Johnson... nuff said.

thats what im saying bro, thought the link was enough :P hehe

[DA_MOSS]

So Ben Johnson was slow, took juice and got faster?? No, you have to be fast/athletic already.. building muscle wont make you fast/athletic...

Getting faster takes hard work in training. There is no magic pill for this

[Muffinhunter]

So Ben Johnson was slow, took juice and got faster?? No, you have to be fast/athletic already.. building muscle wont make you fast/athletic...

Getting faster takes hard work in training. There is no magic pill for this

Yes, he took juice and got faster.

Sure, running takes inherited talent. But the strength training is what makes the difference between 10.0s and 9.7s. The same agruement can be said for hitting a homerun; Steroids won't make the ball hit the bat, but that 10 feet the added strength gives you on your long ball will make a HUGE difference in your numbers.

[DA_MOSS]

Yes, he took juice and got faster.

Sure, running takes inherited talent. But the strength training is what makes the difference between 10.0s and 9.7s. The same agruement can be said for hitting a homerun; Steroids won't make the ball hit the bat, but that 10 feet the added strength gives you on your long ball will make a HUGE difference in your numbers.

I see what you're saying..

All I'm saying is you have to have a good bit of speed/athleticism/talent, etc.. to begin with. Juice wont turn you into a D1 prospect if you cant make your High School team

[LABS_4_LIFE]

I see what you're saying..

All I'm saying is you have to have a good bit of speed/athleticism/talent, etc.. to begin with. Juice wont turn you into a D1 prospect if you cant make your High School team

It was a stimulant Ben Johnson took not gear, well he might have taken it but stimulants are what he got caught with.

[dvsness]

Another brilliant supplement name.

[bclark22]

So Ben Johnson was slow, took juice and got faster?? No, you have to be fast/athletic already.. building muscle wont make you fast/athletic...

Getting faster takes hard work in training. There is no magic pill for this

l o l

building muscle won't make you faster or more athletic?

yet usually the more athletic you are the more lean mass aka muscle you have, which burns more fat, which makes you able to jump, run, work harder and faster. Making you more athletic?

people take steroids to get stronger, faster and more athletic. sprinters and baseball players alike




to OP - don't take it, you obviously need a lot more research on steroids since thats what that is. and since you are playing college ball you can get tested, wouldn't risk it

[ZB126]

It was a stimulant Ben Johnson took not gear, well he might have taken it but stimulants are what he got caught with.

"...Johnson admitted that he had lied. Charlie Francis, his coach, told the inquiry that Johnson had been using steroids since 1981...."

the point we've been trying to make since you clearly didnt bother to read/research what we were talking about

[LABS_4_LIFE]

"...Johnson admitted that he had lied. Charlie Francis, his coach, told the inquiry that Johnson had been using steroids since 1981...."

the point we've been trying to make since you clearly didnt bother to read/research what we were talking about

It's in the movie bigger, faster, stronger. Steroids is a term misused often to broadly, specifically Johnson took illegal stimulants.

[ZB126]

It's in the movie bigger, faster, stronger. Steroids is a term misused often to broadly, specifically Johnson took illegal stimulants.

I'm glad you have such advanced comprehension skills!

"It was only after conversations with other athletes at the 1983 Pan American Games in Caracas, Venezuela, he said, that he fully understood that the drugs he had been taking were anabolic steroids. These drugs are banned for athletic purposes because they are thought to increase the rate of muscle growth and step up training endurance, giving a user an unfair advantage."

http://www.nytimes.com/1989/06/13/sp...-steroids.html

[LABS_4_LIFE]

I'm glad you have such advanced comprehension skills!

"It was only after conversations with other athletes at the 1983 Pan American Games in Caracas, Venezuela, he said, that he fully understood that the drugs he had been taking were anabolic steroids. These drugs are banned for athletic purposes because they are thought to increase the rate of muscle growth and step up training endurance, giving a user an unfair advantage."

http://www.nytimes.com/1989/06/13/sp...-steroids.html

Lol..ok dude.

[LABS_4_LIFE]

Lol..ok dude.

On an aside tell me that your picture is from before you took H-Drol

[DA_MOSS]

l o l

building muscle won't make you faster or more athletic?

yet usually the more athletic you are the more lean mass aka muscle you have, which burns more fat, which makes you able to jump, run, work harder and faster. Making you more athletic?

people take steroids to get stronger, faster and more athletic. sprinters and baseball players alike




to OP - don't take it, you obviously need a lot more research on steroids since thats what that is. and since you are playing college ball you can get tested, wouldn't risk it

obviously you are unaware

[sandaltan]

athleticism has much more to do with coordination, running speed, jumping and balance than strength.

i would argue that you do not need strength to be athletic. being strong doesnt make you athletic, nor does being athletic make you strong.

strength is going to have a much smaller effect on running and jumping than pure natural talent.

[Muffinhunter]

Lol..ok dude.

Stop posting please - you are wrong in your point, deal with it That was a childish attempt at a cheapshot at a person that was just displaying facts.

And in Bigger, Faster, Stronger, they were talking about Carl Lewis taking Ephedrine, a stimulant. Johnson was on anabolics.

[sandaltan]

On an aside tell me that your picture is from before you took H-Drol

did you just quote yourself?

and get mad at what was said?

[LABS_4_LIFE]

Yawn!

[nkh]

strength is going to have a much smaller effect on running and jumping than pure natural talent.

Sure. I'll agree with this point, but saying that it won't help at all is ignorant. Training for a specific skill is far more important than strength/power/explosiveness/muscular endurance training which will aid you in your sport.

[jhonnybravo32]

I didnt meat to start an argument even though thats what every thread leads to. Thanks for the imput guys. I just know alot of sprinters took Winstrol and dramatically increased their times. I dont heard of this winztrol stuff and thought it may be a clone. Thanks for the help. I will just keep working hard and resistance running.

[dexterium]

Winstrol is too risky; people have many injuries while taking this stuff. You will run into problems when getting tested. For a natural supplement go with MAN Clout.