pre/intra/post workout stack

[Ripped Force138]

Just out of curiousity was wondering what everyone thought of my stack.

In the morning i take multivitamin, triple strength fish oil, triflex, jacked up (fat burner look it up) recreate, ALA, ginko biloba, coQ10, hawethorne berry, and Calcium citrate.

Pre workout I take Jack3D, I take 10g of BCAA powder and 5g of glutamine powder after I do abs and hit the weights before I do my 60 mins of cardio. After cardio I drink 40g of whey isolate and 40g of waximaize with 5g of glutamine powder added. I also take ZMA at bed time.


Was wondering what everyone thinks of my stack

[justinmonty]

Just out of curiousity was wondering what everyone thought of my stack.

In the morning i take multivitamin, triple strength fish oil, triflex, jacked up (fat burner look it up) recreate, ALA, ginko biloba, coQ10, hawethorne berry, and Calcium citrate.

Pre workout I take Jack3D, I take 10g of BCAA powder and 5g of glutamine powder after I do abs and hit the weights before I do my 60 mins of cardio. After cardio I drink 40g of whey isolate and 40g of waximaize with 5g of glutamine powder added. I also take ZMA at bed time.


Was wondering what everyone thinks of my stack

seems legit .. maybey i would change is fat burner for something liek e-bol or max out

[ZachSmash]

spend all of htat money on chicken beans rice fish peanut butter and oats.









thats what arnold did. jsut sayin.

[whosane]

spend all of htat money on chicken beans rice fish peanut butter and oats.









thats what arnold did. jsut sayin.

+ Juice.

Orange Juice that is.

Ya on a serious note, I have spend hundreds to thousands of dollars on supps thinking my diet is right and i will become HYOOGE (hell yeah MT) when later I when I started counting cals and measuring my food I realized that my diet is **** and only handful of supps work, do intense research and don't buy into BS.

[lepkoftw]

Stick with your Fish-Oil, Whey, MultiVit, Casein(Orcottagecheese). And maybe something like NO xplode(personally hate the taste but it works for me)
And eat healthy - tuna,salmon,chickenbreasts, whole wheats, egg whites blah blah you know the drill!

Just my 2 cents.

[Muffinhunter]

Just out of curiousity was wondering what everyone thought of my stack.

In the morning i take multivitamin, triple strength fish oil, triflex, jacked up (fat burner look it up) recreate, ALA, ginko biloba, coQ10, hawethorne berry, and Calcium citrate.

Pre workout I take Jack3D, I take 10g of BCAA powder and 5g of glutamine powder after I do abs and hit the weights before I do my 60 mins of cardio. After cardio I drink 40g of whey isolate and 40g of waximaize with 5g of glutamine powder added. I also take ZMA at bed time.


Was wondering what everyone thinks of my stack

Stack looks decent to me - the only things I would suggest would be to remove a couple items to save some cash.
Glutamine has been proven not to give significant benefit to weight training.
ZMA, unless you NEED it to relax to sleep, really isnt worthwhile in my opinion. You'll get enough zinc in your multi to cover what you don't get from food.
As to Ginko and Hawthorne berry, they are great if you need the energy/lowering of your blood pressure, but thats obviously a case by case basis, and your call

Anyway... Cheers!

[Big Slim DaDDy]

spend all of htat money on chicken beans rice fish peanut butter and oats.









thats what arnold did. jsut sayin.

Guy is 230lbs he obviously eats.

[sweetmozzer]

Stack looks decent to me - the only things I would suggest would be to remove a couple items to save some cash.
Glutamine has been proven not to give significant benefit to weight training.
ZMA, unless you NEED it to relax to sleep, really isnt worthwhile in my opinion. You'll get enough zinc in your multi to cover what you don't get from food.
As to Ginko and Hawthorne berry, they are great if you need the energy/lowering of your blood pressure, but thats obviously a case by case basis, and your call

Anyway... Cheers!

"Glutamine has been proven not to give significant benefit to weight training."

I thought Glutamine was to aid in recovery and not weight training? I know we already produce it, but, it's good to have extra...yes? no?

[Muffinhunter]

"Glutamine has been proven not to give significant benefit to weight training."

I thought Glutamine was to aid in recovery and not weight training? I know we already produce it, but, it's good to have extra...yes? no?

No - do some searches on this site, there are numberous studies showing it really has no real benefit to a healthy individual - they'll explain it much better than I could.

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[sweetmozzer]

No - do some searches on this site, there are numberous studies showing it really has no real benefit to a healthy individual - they'll explain it much better than I could.

Ok, did some some reseach on this site. This is what I found. www bodybuilding com/fun/glutamine htm

Now maybe this is their biased opinion because bodybuilding.com sells the stuff, but at the bottom of the article it has some nice references.

I do agree that it doesn't directly build muscle, like creatine, chicken breast, and lifting hard. I know, there is an old saying "don't believe everything you read", but I think it works. Maybe it's all in my mind, but the next day after a workout, I feel good. I've also gone straight to bed after a workout and woke up the next day pretty sore and tired.

According to an UNbiased article by Aurora Health Care, www . aurorahealthcare . org/yourhealth/healthgate/getcontent.asp?URLhealthgate=%2221749 . html%22

Your thoughts?

[Muffinhunter]

Ok, did some some reseach on this site. This is what I found. www bodybuilding com/fun/glutamine htm

Now maybe this is their biased opinion because bodybuilding.com sells the stuff, but at the bottom of the article it has some nice references.

I do agree that it doesn't directly build muscle, like creatine, chicken breast, and lifting hard. I know, there is an old saying "don't believe everything you read", but I think it works. Maybe it's all in my mind, but the next day after a workout, I feel good. I've also gone straight to bed after a workout and woke up the next day pretty sore and tired.

According to an UNbiased article by Aurora Health Care, www . aurorahealthcare . org/yourhealth/healthgate/getcontent.asp?URLhealthgate=%2221749 . html%22

Your thoughts?

http://www.springerlink.com/content/...4bb74dde6&pi=4

There's one abstract I had bookmarked, remembered reading it before.

And again, a search will show you numerous posts/links showing the same. Layne (str8flexed or soemthing is his profile name) also debunks the glutamine claims, and he is a mod on here.

The only way it COULD benefit, from what I gather, is if someone is experiencing extreme physical trauma (burn victims, etc), or in the case of extreme dieting, which in this case would include restricting protein intake. Even in those cases, the dosage recommended is usually around 20-30 grams of Glutamine a day.

Again, look around some more, draw your own conclusion if you wish. But that is what I have learned.

[sweetmozzer]

That is a really good article, nice find...I 100% totally agree with you about trauma victims. The Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA), mentioned that L-Glutamine supplementation, and many other pain medicines, was given to cancer patients after chemotherapy. I guess it's always good to look past the hype. Good post MuffinHunter : )

[Ripped Force138]

glutamine does help! There will be a study out there on the internet to support any claim, pro or con. You may have found a study stating glutamine did not work but there are a ton of studies that state it does work! Besides none of you that are stating that it doesnt work are impressive looking anyways, you look like a bunch of skinny kids so I wouldnt debunk something if you have no real first hand knowledge yourself!

[sweetmozzer]

+ Juice.

Orange Juice that is.

Ya on a serious note, I have spend hundreds to thousands of dollars on supps thinking my diet is right and i will become HYOOGE (hell yeah MT) when later I when I started counting cals and measuring my food I realized that my diet is **** and only handful of supps work, do intense research and don't buy into BS.

Well Said! I totally agree.