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    Originally Posted by FFAZARI View Post
    just watched a little clip from it, and its stupid how hollywood goes re-re and tries to portray them as some evil psycho monsters that torture...

    (on a side note here)

    With greater intelligence comes greater technology, which requires greater morals and peaceful intentions. I HIGHLY doubt that the advanced civilizations out there are here to torture anything. They are here to help if anything.... There is always a trend that with greater intelligence comes peace, but lower intelligence breeds violence. So the same would hold true for any advanced civilization, for them to get where they are, they have reached a high point in moral standards. just an observation. u can't hand an idiot a nuke and expect nothing to go wrong. they obviously have reached a point at which they won't do wrong with what they have, they are way beyond any selfish and/or violent characteristics that most humans have, and have no desire for control, only learning and helping.
    Hive-minds, maybe they're chipped to prevent them from doing certain things, etc..
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    Originally Posted by FFAZARI View Post

    this stuff about our "brains evolving" is bogus, they were made that way. If it was possible for the brain to evolve and get huge, then every creature would be building cities by now. u r the result of genetic tweakings, not one, but multiple.
    There were other species capable of doing so; they're now extinct and we're the only one left on Earth.
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    Originally Posted by sportsfan7 View Post
    Hive-minds, maybe they're chipped to prevent them from doing certain things, etc..
    what are hive-minds?


    and about the skeletons and "one credible source", i made a huge post about that about 20 pages back, the skeletons are in museums.

    and the skulls, its been theorized that people did skull binding to imitate their gods, tribes that do it, had statues of their "star gods" that had elongated craniums, and they tried to emulate it.
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    Originally Posted by FFAZARI View Post
    Evolution of the brain is just complete crap, we were made to be this way through genetic tweakings, and stopped at a certain point when we were what they wanted us to be. i love evolution and atheists...\
    The fossil record shows a gradual increase in brain size.



    If an alien intelligence genetically engineered us, the fossil record wouldn't show this. They wouldn't create all the previous models as 'experiments'. All experimentation would be done as computer simulations because it would be much quicker and cheaper. EG we do this with things like aircraft and nuclear weapons now. Only their computers and tech would be so advanced, they wouldn't even need to make prototypes.

    Their computers would be able to come up with an ideal model in less than a nanosecond. And I assure you, humans definitely are not an ideal model.
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    Originally Posted by FFAZARI View Post
    what are hive-minds?


    and about the skeletons and "one credible source", i made a huge post about that about 20 pages back, the skeletons are in museums.

    and the skulls, its been theorized that people did skull binding to imitate their gods, tribes that do it, had statues of their "star gods" that had elongated craniums, and they tried to emulate it.
    Hive-minds are things like ant colonies, the Borg in Star Trek, etc. There are tons of ways that aliens could exist and still be war-like without destroying themselves. Hive-minds are one such way.

    Another way would be having every member of the species chipped to physically prevent them from having certain thoughts or making them incapable of certain actions - eliminating 'free will' (which actually doesn't exist because it's physically impossible).
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    Originally Posted by sportsfan7 View Post
    There were other species capable of doing so; they're now extinct and we're the only one left on Earth.
    i'm talking about other animals. nothing has changed in brain size but us, and if we descend from monkeys, which we do, via genetic mutation, NOT evolution, b/c monkeys are still monkeys, and we are still us, as is every other creature as they were long long ago. the only reason evolution is taught, (btw its a theory i have no clue why they teach it like its fact), is b/c its the only alternative to creation that they could think of.

    "It is easy enough to make up stories of how one form gave rise to another, and to find reasons why the stages should be favored by natural selection. But such stories are not part of science, for there is no way of putting them to the test."

    Personal letter from Dr Collin Patterson, Senior Paleontologist at the British Museum of Natural History in London, to Luther D. Sunderland

    "Biologists are simply naive when they talk about experiments designed to test the theory of evolution. It is not testable. They may happen to stumble across facts which would seem to conflict with its predictions. These facts will invariably be ignored and their discoverers will undoubtedly be deprived of continuing research grants."

    Professor Whitten (Professor of Genetics, University of Melbourne, Australia)

    there are thousands of geneticists that know very well that evolution is only taught b/c it is the only thing that defies the idea of a greater being, (which is an et).

    "One of the reasons I started taking this anti-evolutionary view, was ... it struck me that I had been working on this stuff for twenty years and there was not one thing I knew about it. That's quite a shock to learn that one can be so misled so long. ...so for the last few weeks I've tried putting a simple question to various people and groups of people. Question is: Can you tell me anything you know about evolution, any one thing that is true? I tried that question on the geology staff at the Field Museum of Natural History and the only answer I got was silence. I tried it on the members of the Evolutionary Morphology Seminar in the University of Chicago, a very prestigious body of evolutionists, and all I got there was silence for a long time and eventually one person said, 'I do know one thing -- it ought not to be taught in high school'."

    Dr. Colin Patterson, Senior Paleontologist, British Museum of Natural History, London Keynote address at the American Museum of Natural History, New York City

    "Evolution is a fairy tale for grown-ups. This theory has helped nothing in the progress of science. It is useless."

    (Prof. Louis Bounoure, Director of Research, National Center of Scientific Research.)

    "Scientists who go about teaching that evolution is a fact of life are great con-men, and the story they are telling may be the greatest hoax ever! In explaining evolution we do not have one iota of fact."

    (Dr. Newton Tahmisian, Atomic Energy Commission.)

    "Modern apes, for instance, seem to have sprung out of nowhere. They have no yesterday, no fossil record. And the true origin of modern humans - of upright, naked, tool-making, big-brained beings - is, if we are to be honest with ourselves, an equally mysterious matter."

    Dr. Lyall Watson, Anthropologist

    ''We're not just evolving slowly,'' Gould says, ''for all practical purposes we're not evolving. There's no reason to think we're going to get bigger brains or smaller toes or whatever - we are what we are.''

    Stephen Jay Gould ( Professor of Geology and Paleontology, Harvard University )

    "...not being a paleontologist, I don't want to pour too much scorn on paleontologists, but if you were to spend your life picking up bones and finding little fragments of head and little fragments of jaw, there's a very strong desire to exaggerate the importance of those fragments..."

    Dr. Greg Kirby (Senior Lecturer in Population Biology at Flinders University ) in an address given at a meeting of the Biology Teachers Association of South Australia.

    "the incident on a par with two other embarrassing faux pas by fossil hunters: Hesperopithecus, the fossil pig's tooth that was cited as evidence of very early man in North America, and Eoanthropus or 'Piltdown Man', the jaw of an orangutan and the skull of a modern human that were claimed to be the 'earliest Englishman'."

    "The problem with a lot of anthropologists is that they want so much to find a hominid, that any scrap of bone becomes a hominid bone."

    (Dr. Tim White, anthropologist, University of California,

    evolution is a hoax.

    a very well played one.

    I'm making a thread about this.
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    Originally Posted by FFAZARI View Post
    i'm talking about other animals. nothing has changed in brain size but us, and if we descend from monkeys, which we do, via genetic mutation, NOT evolution, b/c monkeys are still monkeys, and we are still us, as is every other creature as they were long long ago. the only reason evolution is taught, (btw its a theory i have no clue why they teach it like its fact), is b/c its the only alternative to creation that they could think of.

    "It is easy enough to make up stories of how one form gave rise to another, and to find reasons why the stages should be favored by natural selection. But such stories are not part of science, for there is no way of putting them to the test."

    Personal letter from Dr Collin Patterson, Senior Paleontologist at the British Museum of Natural History in London, to Luther D. Sunderland

    "Biologists are simply naive when they talk about experiments designed to test the theory of evolution. It is not testable. They may happen to stumble across facts which would seem to conflict with its predictions. These facts will invariably be ignored and their discoverers will undoubtedly be deprived of continuing research grants."

    Professor Whitten (Professor of Genetics, University of Melbourne, Australia)

    there are thousands of geneticists that know very well that evolution is only taught b/c it is the only thing that defies the idea of a greater being, (which is an et).

    "One of the reasons I started taking this anti-evolutionary view, was ... it struck me that I had been working on this stuff for twenty years and there was not one thing I knew about it. That's quite a shock to learn that one can be so misled so long. ...so for the last few weeks I've tried putting a simple question to various people and groups of people. Question is: Can you tell me anything you know about evolution, any one thing that is true? I tried that question on the geology staff at the Field Museum of Natural History and the only answer I got was silence. I tried it on the members of the Evolutionary Morphology Seminar in the University of Chicago, a very prestigious body of evolutionists, and all I got there was silence for a long time and eventually one person said, 'I do know one thing -- it ought not to be taught in high school'."

    Dr. Colin Patterson, Senior Paleontologist, British Museum of Natural History, London Keynote address at the American Museum of Natural History, New York City

    "Evolution is a fairy tale for grown-ups. This theory has helped nothing in the progress of science. It is useless."

    (Prof. Louis Bounoure, Director of Research, National Center of Scientific Research.)

    "Scientists who go about teaching that evolution is a fact of life are great con-men, and the story they are telling may be the greatest hoax ever! In explaining evolution we do not have one iota of fact."

    (Dr. Newton Tahmisian, Atomic Energy Commission.)

    "Modern apes, for instance, seem to have sprung out of nowhere. They have no yesterday, no fossil record. And the true origin of modern humans - of upright, naked, tool-making, big-brained beings - is, if we are to be honest with ourselves, an equally mysterious matter."

    Dr. Lyall Watson, Anthropologist

    ''We're not just evolving slowly,'' Gould says, ''for all practical purposes we're not evolving. There's no reason to think we're going to get bigger brains or smaller toes or whatever - we are what we are.''

    Stephen Jay Gould ( Professor of Geology and Paleontology, Harvard University )

    "...not being a paleontologist, I don't want to pour too much scorn on paleontologists, but if you were to spend your life picking up bones and finding little fragments of head and little fragments of jaw, there's a very strong desire to exaggerate the importance of those fragments..."

    Dr. Greg Kirby (Senior Lecturer in Population Biology at Flinders University ) in an address given at a meeting of the Biology Teachers Association of South Australia.

    "the incident on a par with two other embarrassing faux pas by fossil hunters: Hesperopithecus, the fossil pig's tooth that was cited as evidence of very early man in North America, and Eoanthropus or 'Piltdown Man', the jaw of an orangutan and the skull of a modern human that were claimed to be the 'earliest Englishman'."

    "The problem with a lot of anthropologists is that they want so much to find a hominid, that any scrap of bone becomes a hominid bone."

    (Dr. Tim White, anthropologist, University of California,

    evolution is a hoax.

    a very well played one.

    I'm making a thread about this.
    Lots of animals have evolved higher intelligence as an advantage. For example, all animals have evolved higher intelligence than all bacterium.

    BTW, quotations mean nothing. What other people think doesn't make anything true. Logic means everything and truth is logical.
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    did u even bother looking at the post where i had pics of the 42 inch long femurs and massive jawbones in museums? believe it or not, THEY ARE ACTUALLY ON DISPLAY
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    Originally Posted by sportsfan7 View Post
    Lots of animals have evolved higher intelligence as an advantage. For example, all animals have evolved higher intelligence than all bacterium.
    so why are the bacterium still around? shouldn't they have died out long ago? since they were taken over by "intelligence"? simple fact of the matter is nothing has evolved. they are what they are. they find a scrap of bone here and one there and make a huge story of it.

    but they don't explain are the infinite number of holes in it all. they believe what they want to and twist everything they find to support themselves. fact.

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    Originally Posted by FFAZARI View Post
    so why are the bacterium still around? shouldn't they have died out long ago? since they were taken over by "intelligence"?
    No.. Their niche doesn't require intelligence. It would be a waste of energy for them to develop it and they'd then be at a competitive disadvantage vs the dumber bacterium.
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    Originally Posted by FFAZARI View Post
    "lmao"

    did u even bother looking at the post where i had pics of the 42 inch long femurs and massive jawbones in museums? believe it or not, THEY ARE ACTUALLY ON DISPLAY
    The image says that the femur was sculpted, and I cannot find any verifiable source of the discovery of the real femur.

    http://www.kent-hovind.com/articles/them_bones.htm

    Just another hoax like this http://www.snopes.com/photos/odd/giantman.asp

    Not even gonna bother trying find out more about the jawbone.
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    Originally Posted by FFAZARI View Post
    so why are the bacterium still around? shouldn't they have died out long ago? since they were taken over by "intelligence"? simple fact of the matter is nothing has evolved. they are what they are. they find a scrap of bone here and one there and make a huge story of it.

    but they don't explain are the infinite number of holes in it all. they believe what they want to and twist everything they find to support themselves. fact.

    BUTTERFLY CHANGED COLORS

    OMG EVOLUTION GOD DOES NOT EXIST

    pls go. (not u, just evolution THEORIES in general...such a well played hoax)
    BTW evolution is something that has to be true. Organisms mutate. Fact.

    If a mutation is harmful, the organism won't reproduce. Logic.

    If a mutation is neutral, the organism will reproduce normally. Logic.

    If a mutation is beneficial, the organism will reproduce more. Logic.

    Beneficial mutations thus become more widespread than harmful and neutral mutations. Logic.

    That's evolution.

    If you accept that mutations happen (and they obviously do), the above has to logically happen. There's no way evolution can't be true; there's no speculation whatsoever in the above-described process. It's purely logical.
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    Originally Posted by FFAZARI View Post
    so why are the bacterium still around? shouldn't they have died out long ago? since they were taken over by "intelligence"? simple fact of the matter is nothing has evolved. they are what they are. they find a scrap of bone here and one there and make a huge story of it.

    but they don't explain are the infinite number of holes in it all. they believe what they want to and twist everything they find to support themselves. fact.

    Because they don't need intelligence to survive, just as 95% of animals on this planet dont need intelligence to keep reproducing effectively

    this is exactly why not every animal is evolving to be as intelligent as us - its simply not needed, and so the trait is not selected for
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    we already had our evolutionary fun LOLOL dat was fun, in another thread, it was all atomicbombmushroom.jpg

    anyways..

    lets discuss aliens and such, shall we?

    an idea, do u think everything needs a sun to survive? cause in some places, it seems there isn't something like our version of a sun. so what may their energy source be? do they breath hydrogen and eat acid and live on that? srs. they can't ALL be like us... or are they?
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    the reason why i pay attention to this is because of what Gordon Cooper had to say about the matter.

    If they are here they don't want attention.
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    So disproving one thing automatically disproves the whole thread full of videos/documents of mil personell/images..ect

    Love the logic! Haters will hate like its still 1600's. Reppin ppl that contributes. I'm enjoying the videos being posted.
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    ^^about the giants, the bible talks of gargantuan men that roamed the earth, i made a two page post about areas like mines etc. that had 90lb sledgehammers and 16 foot tall ceilings, not repeating myself, read thread pls.

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    Originally Posted by .:Chris:. View Post
    So disproving one thing automatically disproves the whole thread full of videos/documents of mil personell/images..ect

    Love the logic! Reppin ppl that contributes. I'm enjoying the videos being posted. Haters will hate like its still 1600's.
    chris we're not talkin about that anymore lol, thats old news, we're not going to back to basics, asking if aliens exist like asking do we need to breathe to live. yes, there is no way in hell the opposite is true.

    there are thousands, even millions, of different et's in different places with different levels of advancement and progress (<<<what is the definition of progress btw?)

    Originally Posted by tommyguy View Post
    the reason why i pay attention to this is because of what Gordon Cooper had to say about the matter.

    If they are here they don't want attention.
    who's gordon cooper and what did he say?

    and of course they don't want attention, they want to observe their creation, not be noticed by it, keep it as untouched as possible, like a lab experiment that can't be touched or else it goes bad. MAYBE this is why, they may have other reasons. no way to know exactly.
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    Originally Posted by .:Chris:. View Post
    oh ok cool so everyones on the same page? Back on 2011. Sweet, lets discuss then!
    lets start with post #1665

    do all things need a sun to live? what if they survive on different things, that would kill us instantly, is their planet dark? is it 50x the size of the earth? (<<<i'm sure there are some way bigger, there have to be in a universe this huuuuuge)

    how many universe are there? are they like planets revolving around something greater, but all universes instead of planets, which is a part of something larger? etc etc

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    Originally Posted by FFAZARI View Post
    ^^about the giants, the bible talks of gargantuan men that roamed the earth, i made a two page post about areas like mines etc. that had 90lb sledgehammers and 16 foot tall ceilings, not repeating myself, read thread pls.

    kthxbai
    They were called the Nephilim. Are you suggesting that is what these giant skeletons are?
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    Originally Posted by go2failure View Post
    They were called the Nephilim. Are you suggesting that is what these giant skeletons are?
    yea i know, the nephilim, but tbh i don't know if thats what they are or not. but the bible has references to people like samson and goliath. mega-men, essentially, but it does make reference to god and the nephilim.

    i don't know what to make of the skeletons and the nephilim. but the jawbones that are 4x the size of a normal human are hard to ignore. it may very well be them.
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    Was Tinley Park ever mentioned in this thread?
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    and btw, some details about them (from the bible)

    * Their height was two or three times the height of normal men.
    * They were associated with some kind of unholy intermixing before the Flood. <<<this is in the bible when it said "the sons of God interbred with the daughters of man"
    * They were closely associated with the wicked Canaanites after the Flood.
    * In one case they are described as having polydactyly (extra fingers and toes)<<<<in ancient carvings, Sumerians namely, there are giants that had six fingers
    * Unlike the Canaanites, there are no examples of Nephilim who became followers of God. <<<suggesting this is why they were wiped out.

    must have been some sort of a "screw up"
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    Originally Posted by DeathAtAFuneral View Post
    Was Tinley Park ever mentioned in this thread?
    google search reveals tinley park, Illinois

    something happen there?


    btw some info about the nephilim in great detail

    http://www.nwcreation.net/nephilim.html

    in all honesty, the bible is best collection of info, just read through it at least once i mean it can't get much clearer that god is an et, but the god of the universe, as they say, is something incomprehensible.
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    ffazari, while your baby squirrel nursing talents are undeniable, your understanding of evolution is sorely lacking.
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    Originally Posted by dban420 View Post
    ffazari, while your baby squirrel nursing talents are undeniable, your understanding of evolution is sorely lacking.
    that stuff is made up. u link random bone fragments and make a story out of it. evolution on micro level is true, but we sure as hell didn't all evolve. humans are a creation.

    i find hard to understand why people still believe in a joke like that, even its creator said it wasn't based on anything, and yet its still taught. if thats not ridiculous then idk what is.

    not to mention the bajillion other holes that they seem to patch up with some bs "evidence" they make up for it. its a lie. in time it'll be revealed, say all u want, but truth stands in the end. overtime we'll see how everything is the exact same as it was now. and then we'll laugh and have some gatorade for refresh ourselves. btw this thread isn;t about that if more and more realized that god is an extra terrestrial, everything would make so much more sense. we wouldn't be having circular "does god exist" arguments when they don't even know what god is in the first place and think its imaginary, well its not imaginary, thats the point.

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    Havent posted in this thread in a long time, got banned for a month, only been back a few weeks


    So whats the topic in this thread atm? i see people are talking about the nephilim

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    Havent posted in this thread in a long time, got banned for a month, only been back a few weeks


    So whats the topic in this thread atm? i see people are talking about the nephilim
    dammit look at post 1670
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    remember when people thought the earth was flat?
    remeber when people beleived you could walk off the edge of the earth?
    remember when people thought we were the only ones in the universe?


    ^that is whats gonna be said years from now this alien **** will be put into that catagory!

    I bet somehwere out there there are aliens from millions of different planets living together and flying to each others planets for holidays and trading resources etc lol i bet its like starwars or somthing
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