Where to for Wolf IF he fails again?

**jules_d1** · 05-03-2010, 08:03 PM

Not a hate thread at all, just wondering what peoples thoughts are if he comes in poorly again after this was commented on as HIS show to win?

Olympia qualifying?
Sponsorship?
Career in general?

**flangmasterj** · 05-03-2010, 08:17 PM

Asparagus sales will plummet.

**BaGeL23** · 05-03-2010, 08:18 PM

Think he'll have lost all his fans trust and support if he really messes up this time around, from there he could give up competeing and try to make a living through other means, or start battling back and trying to tear up the lower tier shows.

**Supercows** · 05-03-2010, 08:21 PM

All he has to do is go back to the winning formula he had in 07', can it really be that hard?

**Baal** · 05-03-2010, 08:23 PM

He said he did his own diet 07 from what I remember. Tasted a bit of victory and started changing everything, hiring all kinds of people. He has so much potential it isnt making sense why he hasnt brought that since.

**asbrus** · 05-03-2010, 08:39 PM

Give me a break Ronnie failed for 7 years in every competition until he took off.

**DavisForman** · 05-03-2010, 08:46 PM

He needs to stop screwing around with these coin-toss trainers... they aren't working. He needs to go for the sure bet, like hooking up with Hany Rambod or someone.

IMO, Wolf has more potential than any of the other current top contenders, yet guys like Kai and Phil are passing him with ease. If he filled out more and really nailed his conditioning (and I don't mean 07 conditioning, I mean peeled to the bone conditioning) I don't see anyone being capable of beating him. Yet it honestly seems like he became satisfied with a top 5 finish at the O and his drive just hasn't been there.

But you never know, he could show up ripped this Saturday and shut us all up, lol.

**DavisForman** · 05-03-2010, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by asbrus

Give me a break Ronnie failed for 7 years in every competition until he took off.

Agreed.

Someone said owning lower tier shows? Give me a break, Wolf has hit a rough patch, and it has happened to other pros before. As mentioned above, it took Ronnie a long time before he became the GOAT, and Wolf is still quite young and has only done several pro shows.

**jules_d1** · 05-03-2010, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by asbrus

Give me a break Ronnie failed for 7 years in every competition until he took off.

ronnie built up to that. on the other hand dennis blew everyone away on the biggest stage and then regressed horribly.

**CompetitiveGain** · 05-03-2010, 08:49 PM

he has plenty of shows to compete in up to the olympia to either gain a qualification, or just get the winning formula for conditioning.....

BSN won't drop him right away if he fooks up in NY....

That being said. I think wolf is going to do well. If his timing is right with shedding water and carbing up he will get a qualification and bsn will be happy, and if he is completely dialed in dry and full (slim chance unfortunately) he will win.

**FullROM** · 05-03-2010, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by Baal

He said he did his own diet 07 from what I remember. Tasted a bit of victory and started changing everything, hiring all kinds of people. He has so much potential it isnt making sense why he hasnt brought that since.

X2 Its almost like Wolf's trying too hard and maybe should be more patient like Heaths approach.

**DavisForman** · 05-03-2010, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by jules_d1

ronnie built up to that. on the other hand dennis blew everyone away on the biggest stage and then regressed horribly.

Regressed would be more appropriate if his placings got worse year to year. People forget that his only bad placing in the last 3 years was last year. Just one show, that's it.

Regression, no. Stumble, yes.

**tsiparlanaeht** · 05-03-2010, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by DavisForman

Regressed would be more appropriate if his placings got worse year to year. People forget that his only bad placing in the last 3 years was last year. Just one show, that's not.

Regression, no. Stumble, yes.

well said

**siersy** · 05-03-2010, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by FullROM

X2 Its almost like Wolf's trying too hard and maybe should be more patient like Heaths approach.

everyones body can grow at a different rate, heath has grown too fast as well IMO.

guys gotta be careful when they blow up concerning proportions etc

**jayoheazy** · 05-03-2010, 09:13 PM

He was a beast in '07 but he started doing too much. I think he psyches himself out and second guesses his physique. I agree that working with a solid trainer like Hany or Glass will really put things in order for him. He has a ton of potential as long as he maintains the will to see it through without being mentally/emotionally drained. I know after the Olympia he really hit an all-time low

**BreitRon** · 05-03-2010, 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by Supercows

All he has to do is go back to the winning formula he had in 07', can it really be that hard?

sick physique, but i honestly dont like his shape. best of luck to him on NY pro though.

**FullROM** · 05-03-2010, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by Supercows

All he has to do is go back to the winning formula he had in 07', can it really be that hard?

I wonder what Wolf would say if we asked him this exact question. Maybe he really does nt know how???

**MrMetabolism** · 05-03-2010, 09:40 PM

if he fails at NY he will hook up with hany and dominate

**NaturalLoco** · 05-03-2010, 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by flangmasterj

asparagus sales will plummet.

lol

**Boba_Bulk** · 05-03-2010, 10:31 PM

I like Wolf. To be honest though I really wasn't expecting him to have a dominating year this year (if he does, that's great). From essentially coming in last at the O, I think he knows it's gonna take a different game plan, and a lot more work to get back to/above his previous high level. If he can get back to the O, and crack the top half with the stacked lineup that we expect, than it would be a great improvement compared to last year. I wouldn't constitute it as a total failure.

I'm not really sure what was his game plan last year, other than really trying to mass up like a lot of the other guys. Maybe in the end he relied too much on his super metabolism to get dialed in. Combine that with his new approach to training and bulking over the season, it just backfired.

If he wins another qualifier show outright, or if he can get back to the O and crack top half, then it will be a good sign he has made better steps than last year and is on the right track. Then I think this would be a transition year to make a big impact for next.

**Boba_Bulk** · 05-03-2010, 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by flangmasterj

Asparagus sales will plummet.

Azpargooz!

**NeiF** · 05-03-2010, 11:21 PM

Originally Posted by flangmasterj

Asparagus sales will plummet.

haaaaaaaaaaa!!!

**cramron** · 05-03-2010, 11:31 PM

he can always go door to door selling smartforlife cookies

**T3mpest** · 05-03-2010, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by DavisForman

He needs to stop screwing around with these coin-toss trainers... they aren't working. He needs to go for the sure bet, like hooking up with Hany Rambod or someone.

IMO, Wolf has more potential than any of the other current top contenders, yet guys like Kai and Phil are passing him with ease. If he filled out more and really nailed his conditioning (and I don't mean 07 conditioning, I mean peeled to the bone conditioning) I don't see anyone being capable of beating him. Yet it honestly seems like he became satisfied with a top 5 finish at the O and his drive just hasn't been there.

But you never know, he could show up ripped this Saturday and shut us all up, lol.

No such thing as a sure bet in BB'ing. Hell, other than heath who does Hany actually work with? No offense, getting Phil to improve or come in in shape isn't hard. He is one of the few guys right now who can still make improvements and has the genetics to do it, plus he's been peeled even as an amateur. Most good "guru's" only work with the top tier guys anyway, making it a pretty shady business, IMO. Works that way in alot of sports though, look at Phil Jackson working with the Bulls and then Lakers, yeah when you only work with potentially the best teams in the league, you can easily look like a great coach...

**DPNZ** · 05-04-2010, 01:33 AM

Originally Posted by siersy

everyones body can grow at a different rate, heath has grown too fast as well IMO.

guys gotta be careful when they blow up concerning proportions etc

Hasn't hurt Heath at all. Not sure what you're talking about.
Wolf has grown too fast either, he just has issues with conditioning.

**siersy** · 05-04-2010, 02:03 AM

Originally Posted by DPNZ

Hasn't hurt Heath at all. Not sure what you're talking about.
Wolf has grown too fast either, he just has issues with conditioning.

im just saying his strong parts are growing faster than his weaker parts.

but wolf must have replaced his cell tech with crack tech... how can one go so down hill over 3 years in the peak of their career

**jason92** · 05-04-2010, 02:37 AM

hopefully he looses and his sponsers drop him, cant stand wolf.

**Withoutreason** · 05-04-2010, 03:11 AM

Originally Posted by jason92

hopefully he looses and his sponsers drop him, cant stand wolf.

lol, i've not heard anyone hating a pro like that for a while

**TerryDaTank** · 05-04-2010, 03:34 AM

Originally Posted by JRDiamondDelts

lol, i've not heard anyone hating a pro like that for a while

I agree with him in a way.... Wolf has an annoying face and his physique is pretty 'meh'. I have no interest in seeing him, on stage or off.

**FullROM** · 05-04-2010, 04:42 AM

Originally Posted by TerryDaTank

I agree with him in a way.... Wolf has an annoying face and his physique is pretty 'meh'. I have no interest in seeing him, on stage or off.

WOW judging someone by their face, strange way of going about things.

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