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    Smile Squats!!!!!!

    i recently partially tore my acl playing basketball. and through this i found out that basketball players should not be doing squats. because of how much tension basketba;ll alone puts on your knees, squats only add to that tension and that is not a good thing. this information was given to me by a very respected person in the field so i would listen to this
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    Basketball players definetley should be doing squats. However, the intensity should not be as high obviously during the season in comparison to the off season. In the off season you should be squatting heavy though.
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    Originally Posted by Snowman24 View Post
    i recently partially tore my acl playing basketball. and through this i found out that basketball players should not be doing squats. because of how much tension basketba;ll alone puts on your knees, squats only add to that tension and that is not a good thing. this information was given to me by a very respected person in the field so i would listen to this
    Please cite a research document, your respected person, and further explain why & how squats place more tension on the knees.

    If you do squats improperly, that is with varus or valgus stress, then instead of cutting out squats you should strengthen the muscles surrounding the knee joint and work to correct the associated problems pertaining to these stresses.
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    qb is correct. squats actually strengthen the tendons and ligaments around your knee. great for preventing acl issues. of course performing them properly is the big issue
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    Squats are definitly bad for your knees and athletes should not do them! I mean, who really does squats? Does Mark Ripptoes recommend squats? Did Bill Starr? Does Joe Defranco or any of the guys from Westside Barbell swear by box squats? I think not!

    Pfft, who wants to have a strong lower body!? Oh and beware of deadlifts, theyre bad for your back...

    Seriously, your respected source is definitly misinformed.
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    Originally Posted by SuicideGripMe View Post
    Squats are definitly bad for your knees and athletes should not do them! I mean, who really does squats? Does Mark Ripptoes recommend squats? Did Bill Starr? Does Joe Defranco or any of the guys from Westside Barbell swear by box squats? I think not!

    Pfft, who wants to have a strong lower body!? Oh and beware of deadlifts, theyre bad for your back...

    Seriously, your respected source is definitly misinformed.
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    Originally Posted by Snowman24 View Post
    i recently partially tore my acl playing basketball. and through this i found out that basketball players should not be doing squats. because of how much tension basketba;ll alone puts on your knees, squats only add to that tension and that is not a good thing. this information was given to me by a very respected person in the field so i would listen to this
    stop bench press also it make ur chest bigger and u wont be able to handle the basketball like you do now..

    stop biceps curls also the bigger ur arms are the slower they are

    stop lifting weight also the bigger u are the slower u are.


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    Originally Posted by tehkev14 View Post
    stop bench press also it make ur chest bigger and u wont be able to handle the basketball like you do now..

    stop biceps curls also the bigger ur arms are the slower they are

    stop lifting weight also the bigger u are the slower u are.


    LOLgsedr
    this is making a comback! it was the idea back in the like friggin 1930's and you know they were right. obesity wasnt a problem so they musta been on something. DONT LIFT! EVER!

























    /sarcasm... kill this thread
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    Originally Posted by qb0708 View Post
    Please cite a research document, your respected person, and further explain why & how squats place more tension on the knees.

    If you do squats improperly, that is with varus or valgus stress, then instead of cutting out squats you should strengthen the muscles surrounding the knee joint and work to correct the associated problems pertaining to these stresses.
    this.

    Females tend to tear their ACL a lot in sports because of the way they squat. Since they have bigger hips, their q-line is angled in more making their knees go inward called genu valgum. So when they squat down, they have a tendency to internally rotate their knees in which is improper technique that can lead to an ACL tear. This shows that proper form is very important.



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    im not telling everyone not to do squats, im telling BASKETBALL PLAYERS!!!! and this guy was a former nba player and he had many knee problems and his advice cam e from nba trainers who have much more knowledge then tards on this forum lmao
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    Originally Posted by Snowman24 View Post
    im not telling everyone not to do squats, im telling BASKETBALL PLAYERS!!!! and this guy was a former nba player and he had many knee problems and his advice cam e from nba trainers who have much more knowledge then tards on this forum lmao


    well dont do squats...


    but do not try to anyone else not to do squats, as it might be one of the most important lift for basketball players
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    Originally Posted by Snowman24 View Post
    im not telling everyone not to do squats, im telling BASKETBALL PLAYERS!!!! and this guy was a former nba player and he had many knee problems and his advice cam e from nba trainers who have much more knowledge then tards on this forum lmao
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    oh my! basketball doesnt put anymore stress on knees than any other major sport! majority of sports all have jumping, running, lateral/unilateral movements on artificial surfaces!

    take it from a trainer right here! strengthening ur legs for performance without squats is a bad idea! squats not only help build the core (most important for ANY athlete!) but it does the opposite of what is being clamed here! squats help strengthen the ligaments and tendons!

    the ONLY two ways this "no squat" theory holds any water is:

    1.) the athlete is in rehabing a injury to his legs! and it would only be a limited time basis!

    2.) if the athlete was using performance inhancing drugs (steriods) during season! in which i would reccomend the athlete to first stop using but if cont. then dont lift extreamly heavy on legs due to the stress added to ligaments and tendons bc of steriods! (when on steriods ur strength gains are very rapid to the point ur ligaments and tendons cant keep up with and they get strained! and when an athlete plays/trains on strained ligaments and tendons the possibility of injury is increased dramaticaly!)

    * not knocking the so called NBA player but MAYBE the reason he had knee problems is bc he recieved this bad info and followed the instructions! just a slight possibilty or MAYBE this guy had some knee problems to where it would be wise for HIM (not all players) to not do squats!
    lebron james put me into the red!!!! :(

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    overtraining is the dumbest thing ive ever heard some lazy bastard came up with an excuse of why he doesnt train hard and bc laziness is contagious everyone bought in!!!
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    Originally Posted by Snowman24 View Post
    im not telling everyone not to do squats, im telling BASKETBALL PLAYERS!!!! and this guy was a former nba player and he had many knee problems and his advice cam e from nba trainers who have much more knowledge then tards on this forum lmao
    really man? ive talked with a few "pro" or even "high level" trainers and honestly these are the guys they were just in the right place at the right time to land that kind of job.

    would all the professional and well certified trainers, coaches, hell i know theres a few doctors lurking please raise your hands? ah look at all them tards... oh wait theyre not.

    listen snowball u still havnt actually said WHO told you this and there is NOTHING that supports this claim in the wide world of athletics. so who may be the tard? educated and informed athletes/coaches or the 16yr old who gets his info from the teen section?

    god help anyone who takes that section seriously... yeesh
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    Originally Posted by Snowman24 View Post
    i recently partially tore my acl playing basketball. and through this i found out that basketball players should not be doing squats. because of how much tension basketba;ll alone puts on your knees, squats only add to that tension and that is not a good thing. this information was given to me by a very respected person in the field so i would listen to this
    Wrong. Injury is usually due to a overtraining, weakness, muscle imbalance, inflexibility or bad form (lifting). Now with that being said ... yes maybe you don't want to squat 3x per week but one time will do nothing but benefit you. It has been long debated that squats are bad or going below parallel is bad or staying at parallel is bad ..... yet millions of people still do them. It is possible for older athletes say in the NBA to squat every once in a while or switch to more one leg stuff because it prevents injury and they are subject to a lot of wear and tear but thats from years and years of playing and training ... nobody can hold up forever. Also, baseball catchers are the only athletes that I have heard having problems from squatting .... because they do it 100+ times per game and then training on top of that to allow them to do it throughout several years causes damage.
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    wow lots so stuff in here....

    if injured rehab injury... only dont squat if injury prevents it... squat is no 1 exercise for anyone and any sport that requires speed other than specific sport drills...
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