A couple of quick diet Q's

[OpolE]

Can i eat Brown/Wholemeal Pasta when cutting as i prefer this to brown rice

Can i have Activia Yoghurts as my sweet comfort snack http://www.activia.us.com/

Should i completely cut out banana's or just have 1 before a workout with pre-workout shake?

I need a straight answer im prepared to cut this out im so dedicated

[Agostage]

Can i eat Brown/Wholemeal Pasta when cutting as i prefer this to brown rice

Can i have Activia Yoghurts as my sweet comfort snack http://www.activia.us.com/

Should i completely cut out banana's or just have 1 before a workout with pre-workout shake?

I need a straight answer im prepared to cut this out im so dedicated

I would say yes, yes and no. As long as it's all fitting into your macros, and you're getting everything you need, you're a go.

[OpolE]

Thanks for the reply man

[zmcdole]

I would say yes, yes and no. As long as it's all fitting into your macros, and you're getting everything you need, you're a go.

This is correct. Too many people get hung up on what they should and shouldn't be eating while cutting. If it fits into your diet eat it. Now when you get several days away from stepping on stage, there will be a few things that you might wanna avoid.

[fitfranco]

Just had this conversation with a client of mine.
And they couldnt beleive I had peanut butter and cool whip every night up until two days before my last show!! I just count the grams, thats all.

Point is, you can enjoy food while doing a prep!

[J_Bo]

I've been eating whole wheat pasta every day of my prep so far and have been consistently getting leaner every week. Like other posters said, if it fits into your macros...besides, it is a complex carb with very few sugars. As for bananas, again, if you can fit them in, then don't cut them out.

[Ian_B]

Just had this conversation with a client of mine.
And they couldnt beleive I had peanut butter and cool whip every night up until two days before my last show!! I just count the grams, thats all.

Point is, you can enjoy food while doing a prep!

off topic but holy hell man... can't believe you're natural

Absolutely incredible.

[fitfranco]

off topic but holy hell man... can't believe you're natural

Absolutely incredible.

Thanks!

[NoelFuller]

I wouldnt have a client on wheat pasta, some people have a slight intolerance, i cut out all wheat at about 4 weeks

[Sporto1633]

I wouldnt have a client on wheat pasta, some people have a slight intolerance, i cut out all wheat at about 4 weeks

If I client had no adverse reaction to wheat pasta, or any other wheat products, would you still have that client cut it out?

Sporto

[NoelFuller]

If I client had no adverse reaction to wheat pasta, or any other wheat products, would you still have that client cut it out?

Sporto

depends on the client and how lean, I let Zoa do it right up until the NA. because she was losing too fast

[Sporto1633]

depends on the client and how lean, I let Zoa do it right up until the NA. because she was losing too fast

So, are you saying that the rate of fat/weight loss is the reason of whether or not you let a client continue to eat wheat products?

Sporto

[AustrianOakJr]

^^^^^Obviously, you lose weight faster eating brown rice than the equivalent in pasta.

To the OP.....most people agree that as long as youre eating sensibly, you can pretty much eat what you want while prepping as long as the numbers work.

That said, I would say there is an issue with taking this to extremes. Some guys swear they can live on Oreo cookies and pop tarts for carbs and fats. I would argue that you might lose weight, there is no way that this is healthy. Not to mention youre hungry 2 seconds after you eat these foods.....as opposed to the carb/fat equivalent in say....a bowl of oatmeal and peanut butter. These foods keep you feeling full much longer and provide other nutrients that are absent from the junky carbs. Back to your pasta.....if choosing between those, I would prefer rice b/c pasta is very carb dense and you really cant eat much of it compared to rice or oatmeal. Other than that, if its your preference to eat rice or bananas or oreos.....go for it. Just go easy on the Oreos.

[NoelFuller]

So, are you saying that the rate of fat/weight loss is the reason of whether or not you let a client continue to eat wheat products?

Sporto

fat loss, , oak is right it is more dense

[co1e_train]

Hey, been reading the thread and have a question about the wheat debate.

Are you guys saying its smart to take wheat out because it is not as natural so to say as brown rice or oats? Because its a more processed products?

I was just curious, (im doing a cut with Austin Kjergaard, idk if any of you guys know him but just wanted to give a shout) and will not be competing for a while but I have always wondered why and when wheat should be cut out.

Thanks!

@ Sporto: Big fan bro, no homo

[thepacman]

Are you guys saying its smart to take wheat out because it is not as natural so to say as brown rice or oats? Because its a more processed products?

To the OP.....most people agree that as long as youre eating sensibly, you can pretty much eat what you want while prepping as long as the numbers work.

Sums it up.

[NoelFuller]

Sums it up.

ummm no

[Ian_B]

ummm no

Sorry man but if you don't understand thermodynamics then just don't post anything.

[Whomper107]

ummm no

You make a compelling argument... but I think the majority of science and anecdotal evidence from the users here will disagree with you.

[Sporto1633]

Sorry man but if you don't understand thermodynamics then just don't post anything.

Don't feed the troll.

Sporto

[Sporto1633]

You make a compelling argument... but I think the majority of science and anecdotal evidence from the users here will disagree with you.

Don't feed the troll.

Sporto

[Ian_B]

LOL I love your posts Tommy

It's great having you on the boards.

[NoelFuller]

You can not eat what you want and expect to come in huge and shredded, certin foods work better on diets than others

[AustrianOakJr]

oak is right it is more dense

I was being facetious. The statement was so idiotic I didnt think it could be taken seriously.....and then being followed by the "" ....that was meant to be a big clue as well.

In caloric deficit, a carb is a carb. 1g of carb from oreos provides the same energy as 1g of carb from brown rice. Take it from the countless people people who have gotten shredded beyond belief eating foods that are not brown rice and sweet potatos.

[AustrianOakJr]

Hey, been reading the thread and have a question about the wheat debate.

Are you guys saying its smart to take wheat out because it is not as natural so to say as brown rice or oats? Because its a more processed products?

No, wheat is fine. Its energy. If you eat too much, you get fat. If you eat less than you burn, you lose weight.

Sorry man but if you don't understand thermodynamics then just don't post anything.

Crap. Does this rule preclude me from posting ANYWHERE or just in this thread.

Complicated subject....

Don't feed the troll.

Sporto

I cant help it.

[co1e_train]

I appreciate the clear up guys.

I have just heard many different views so I was trying to get to the bottom of it or at least get an educated majority opinion.

- co1e train

[Sporto1633]

Hey, been reading the thread and have a question about the wheat debate.

Are you guys saying its smart to take wheat out because it is not as natural so to say as brown rice or oats? Because its a more processed products?

I was just curious, (im doing a cut with Austin Kjergaard, idk if any of you guys know him but just wanted to give a shout) and will not be competing for a while but I have always wondered why and when wheat should be cut out.

Thanks!

@ Sporto: Big fan bro, no homo

I appreciate the clear up guys.

I have just heard many different views so I was trying to get to the bottom of it or at least get an educated majority opinion.

- co1e train

No problem dude - only pay attention to NoelFullOfSh*t if you want a good drug plan. Otherwise, just ignore the troll.

Sporto

[NoelFuller]

Theres a huge difference between book smart and experience smart,I've seen countless internet gurus and they sound pretty much like you guys, when somebody comes in here with 20 years of pro level contest diet experience you argue and try to sound smart, most of you guys havnt even competed, how smart is it to argue? Listen, ask questions, or argue I bet I'm the only guy in here right now getting people ready for IFBB pro shows.

[Sporto1633]

Theres a huge difference between book smart and experience smart,I've seen countless internet gurus and they sound pretty much like you guys, when somebody comes in here with 20 years of pro level contest diet experience you argue and try to sound smart, most of you guys havnt even competed, how smart is it to argue? Listen, ask questions, or argue I bet I'm the only guy in here right now getting people ready for IFBB pro shows.

Actually the real pros in here are both book smart and experience smart, but nice try

And a lot of the others have competed before, so again, a swing and a miss!

And no one is arguing if you can actually make a good point - but your knowledge is weak and you can't explain anything other than broscience that only people with enough drugs can get away with.

Everyone ignore this troll unless you want a good drug plan.

Sporto

[NoelFuller]

Your a semi pro your not really a pro, you would have a hard time placing in a regional NPC show, so dont call your self a pro