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    Protein shakes for girls who are trying to lose weight, yet tone on P90X - good idea?

    For girls who are trying to lose weight via the P90X program, but also toning up, would you suggest taking protein shakes after doing the workout?

    I dont think she'll be into choking down thick shakes like most guys, but I know Nectar is a really good tasting protein that is easy to drink fast, is refreshing & loaded with good stuff. (I know Nectar isnt really liked here, but I think its a great product & really the only thing like it on the market that offers so much)

    I would assume yes since she will need help to repair & recovery, but how does she just work on getting tone muscle while taking protein shakes for repair & not get the bulk body builder muscle?

    Anything else other than a good multi vitamin for her to take?

    She is also trying to go mostly vegan with her diet, so she wont be getting normal protein through red meat, chicken, eggs or cheese.
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    protein shakes? no

    4:1 carb to protein drink yes

    i'm also on p90x and i have a glass of chocolate soymilk after my strengh training days. just make sure its 4:1 carbs to protein

    its usually a little low on carbs so i add a spoonful or so of hersheys. make sure you measure everything

    p90 sells a 4:1 recovery drink but its expensive as ****.
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    protein shakes are fine, its not going to get her big and bulky...the carbs will be the ones that actually increase the muscle glycogen stores cheeseandrice


    repair and recovery is better with carbs and protein, adding carbs increases the rate of protein synthesis and the release of insulin
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    oh yeah, i forgot to mention there is no way she is gonna get anywhere near big and bulky doing p90x. ESPECIALLY if she is doing the lean version
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    Recovering from a workout, and getting big and bulky, and losing weight are 3 different things.

    1. Yes, protein post workout is good, and you can add more milk to make it thinner. There is nothing to choke down, dont know what you have been using.

    2. Getting big and bulky means more calories.

    3. Losing weight means less calories.

    If she is trying to lose weight, she just needs to have her reduced daily calories, and include the shake in her overall daily calories.
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    Originally Posted by cheeseandrice View Post
    protein shakes? no

    4:1 carb to protein drink yes

    i'm also on p90x and i have a glass of chocolate soymilk after my strengh training days. just make sure its 4:1 carbs to protein

    its usually a little low on carbs so i add a spoonful or so of hersheys. make sure you measure everything

    p90 sells a 4:1 recovery drink but its expensive as ****.
    What drinks out there are a 4:1 carb protein mix?

    I'm not interested the expensive P90 drinks.

    Well since she is a vegan, she already gets a lot of carbs in her diet via breads & grains.

    So if she has the carbs covered, should she still take a 4:1 protein shake? Or just a protein drink like Nectar?

    She does drink soy milk regularly also.
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    Originally Posted by johnnyscience View Post

    I dont think she'll be into choking down thick shakes like most guys
    That's funny because, in my experience, girls are far better at choking down thick stuff. Must come with practice...
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    Originally Posted by johnnyscience View Post
    What drinks out there are a 4:1 carb protein mix?

    I'm not interested the expensive P90 drinks.

    Well since she is a vegan, she already gets a lot of carbs in her diet via breads & grains.

    So if she has the carbs covered, should she still take a 4:1 protein shake? Or just a protein drink like Nectar?

    She does drink soy milk regularly also.
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    Is whey protein powder considered vegan?

    They do make soy protein powder, which can be ok to add to the milk.
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    Originally Posted by Murr1525 View Post
    Is whey protein considered vegan?
    If its made in a lab I think it should be ok for vegans since no animals were harmed from it?

    I'm just wondering if it will spike her system some how & get her sick since she wont be used to having a lot of protein in her system.

    But would taking a straight protein juice like Nectar have the same effect on her body that a piece of red meat will to make her sick?
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    Originally Posted by johnnyscience View Post
    If its made in a lab I think it should be ok for vegans since no animals were harmed from it?
    Do you know where whey comes from? It is separated from milk protein. Therefore, it comes from an animal source and cannot be consumed by vegans. If she won't drink milk, drinking whey would be no different.
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    Originally Posted by Murr1525 View Post
    Is whey protein powder considered vegan?

    They do make soy protein powder, which can be ok to add to the milk.
    Does she drink milk?

    I'd say go with soy.
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    Does Syntrax Nectar contain real dried whey protein, or is in manufactured in the lab 100%? I dont know if Nectar is a little different than most wheys since its a juice not a regular shake?
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    Pretty sure that you can't synthesize whey from non-mammalian sources. So no.
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    Originally Posted by Gator87 View Post
    Do you know where whey comes from? It is separated from milk protein. Therefore, it comes from an animal source and cannot be consumed by vegans. If she won't drink milk, drinking whey would be no different.
    Hmm. For some reason I thought powders like Nectar were made in the lab & were all synthetic?

    She does not drink milk but does drink that Silk soy milk. But that doesnt give her the huge slam of protein she is gonna need after the work out. A glass of that soy only has 7g of protein & 200 calories (which we are also trying to watch since it will be a weight loss program) wont have nearly the 50g of protein that we could make from powder.
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    Get a new girl she sounds too picky find one that likes to eat meat!
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    Get a new girl she sounds too picky find one that likes to eat meat!
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    Get a new girl she sounds too picky find one that likes to eat meat!
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    Shakes with a high protein, low carbohydrate, and a moderate to low fat content would be best in my opinion.
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    Originally Posted by johnnyscience View Post
    Hmm. For some reason I thought powders like Nectar were made in the lab & were all synthetic?
    Ironic that your name is johnnyscience. Whey is a milk based protein.
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    Originally Posted by mariopolo View Post
    Get a new girl she sounds too picky find one that likes to eat meat!
    I vote fr this or just make her a big slab of steak and make her eat it and introduce her to the wonders of meat.
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    Originally Posted by johnnyscience View Post
    Hmm. For some reason I thought powders like Nectar were made in the lab & were all synthetic?

    She does not drink milk but does drink that Silk soy milk. But that doesnt give her the huge slam of protein she is gonna need after the work out. A glass of that soy only has 7g of protein & 200 calories (which we are also trying to watch since it will be a weight loss program) wont have nearly the 50g of protein that we could make from powder.
    Whey is derived from dairy. Period. No matter what brand, lol.

    If she wants to supplement her protein intake with soy protein (in addition to soy milk), she can do so. Here's a soy protein product that you may be interested in:

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