Is Mariano Rivera the alltime best post season performer in sports?

Negatron617 · 11-10-2009, 07:00 PM

I think so.

maybe im forgetting somebody. but rivera has appeared in 14 postseasons and has an ERA of .75 or some crazy ****. he faces the best comp around and still demolishes everybody.

GetBigyo · 11-10-2009, 07:03 PM

Yes.

Anyone with eyes knows how valuable he was to the Yanks WS wins and especially this year also.

Broxton, Lidge,Nathan,Paplebitch, Fuentes...all blew games for their teams this postseason while Rivera dominated.

Negatron617 · 11-10-2009, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GetBigyo

Yes.

Anyone with eyes knows how valuable he was to the Yanks WS wins and especially this year also.

Broxton, Lidge,Nathan,Paplebitch, Fuentes...all blew games for their teams this postseason while Rivera dominated.

im talking across all sports all time

jordan comes to mind for being the most clutch but i cant say jordan was a better post season performer than rivera. its hard to gauge since jordan relied on his teammates more.

AJbuilder · 11-10-2009, 07:06 PM

Probably, although I would also put Jordan and Hakeem Olajuwon as a tie with Mo.

dalynchmob · 11-10-2009, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GetBigyo

Yes.

Anyone with eyes knows how valuable he was to the Yanks WS wins and especially this year also.

Broxton, Lidge,Nathan,Paplebitch, Fuentes...all blew games for their teams this postseason while Rivera dominated.

GetBigyo · 11-10-2009, 07:07 PM

Sh*t misread the thread lol.

^^^id go with Mo or Jordan

Mikehc69 · 11-10-2009, 07:08 PM

The impressive thing is Mo isn't even done yet. But I agree...as of now its very close between him and Jordan.

KingCanuck · 11-10-2009, 07:10 PM

Roy Halladay 0.00 Postseason ERA

Negatron617 · 11-10-2009, 07:11 PM

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Roy Halladay 0.00 Postseason ERA

what do you expect.......his team is also unbeaten this decade i believe

89FoxBody · 11-10-2009, 07:25 PM

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Roy Halladay 0.00 Postseason ERA

In how many games/innings?

LOL.

kethnaab · 11-10-2009, 08:14 PM

Terrell Davis, Denver Broncos

He played in 2 consecutive postseasons (97 and 98) with the Broncs. He ran for over 100 yards in every single game (7 total), and if you were to extrapolate out his playoff performances to a 16-game season, he would've rushed for nearly 2400 yards, 25 TDs, with over 2600 yards from scrimmage

Negatron617 · 11-10-2009, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by kethnaab

Terrell Davis, Denver Broncos

He played in 2 consecutive postseasons (97 and 98) with the Broncs. He ran for over 100 yards in every single game (7 total), and if you were to extrapolate out his playoff performances to a 16-game season, he would've rushed for nearly 2400 yards, 25 TDs, with over 2600 yards from scrimmage

nice............7 games may not be enough tho to give him the crown.........rivera has something like 100+ post season innings.....7 games doesnt compare

good **** tho.....love the stats

sammy21 · 11-10-2009, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Negatron617

im talking across all sports all time

jordan comes to mind for being the most clutch but i cant say jordan was a better post season performer than rivera. its hard to gauge since jordan relied on his teammates more.

MJ is on the same level if not above Mo. He always took over games at the end when they needed him too.

Negatron617 · 11-10-2009, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sammy21

MJ is on the same level if not above Mo. He always took over games at the end when they needed him too.

by definition that is what mo does each and every time he goes into a game

im sure jordan had more blowout games than games where he needed to go crazy in the last 2 minutes...............jordan is def as clutch as they come......idk tho......i may have to go look at jordans postseason numbers

Steveio · 11-10-2009, 08:22 PM

Wayne Gretzky playoff games: 382 points in 208 playoff games. Hmmm...

Negatron617 · 11-10-2009, 08:25 PM

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Wayne Gretzky playoff games: 382 points in 208 playoff games. Hmmm...

i wish i could put that into perspective somehow.............no offense

dalynchmob · 11-10-2009, 08:27 PM

Jordan's playoff averages:

G Min Pts PPG FGM FGA FGP FTM FTA FTP 3PM 3PA 3PP
Tot: 179 7474 5987 33.4 2188 4497 .487 1463 1766 .828 148 446 .332

Average 33.4 PPG

dalynchmob · 11-10-2009, 08:31 PM

Some more Jordan tidbits:

-Passed Kareem Abdul-Jabbar to become the NBA's all-time leading playoff scorer (5,762 points) during the 1998 Eastern Conference Finals

- Holds the NBA Playoffs record for most points -- 5,987; highest points-per-game average (minimum 25 games or 625 points) -- 33.4 ppg; most field goals attempted -- 4,497; most free throws made -- 1,463; most free throws attempted -- 1,766; and most steals -- 376

-Holds the NBA Finals record for highest single-series scoring average -- 41.0 ppg (1993)

-Holds NBA Finals record for most three-point field goals made -- 42; and most consecutive games with 20 or more points -- 35 (June 2, 1991-June 14, 1998)

-Holds the NBA Finals single-game record for most points in one half -- 35 (June 3, 1992 vs. Portland)

-Shares NBA Finals single-game records for most field goals made in one half -- 14; and most three-point field goals made in one half -- 6 (June 3, 1992, vs. Portland); most free throws made in one quarter -- 9 (June 11, 1997 vs. Utah); and most free throws attempted in one half -- 15 (June 4, 1997, vs. Utah)
Scored a career playoff-high 63 points against the Boston Celtics on 4/20/86, setting an NBA record for most points in a playoff game

-Holds single-game playoff records for most free throws made in one quarter -- 13; and most free throws attempted in one quarter -- 14 (May 21, 1991, vs. Detroit)

-Shares single-game playoff records for most field goals made -- 24 (May 1, 1998, vs. Cleveland); most field goals attempted in one half -- 25 (May 1, 1988, vs. Cleveland); and most three-point field goals made in one half -- 6 (June 6, 1992, vs. Portland)

-Recorded two playoff career triple-doubles, both against the New York Knicks (May 9, 1989 and June 2, 1993)

Steveio · 11-10-2009, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Negatron617

i wish i could put that into perspective somehow.............no offense

Gretzky Playoff records:

Most playoff goals, career: 122
Most playoff assists, career: 260
Most assists, one playoff year: 31 in 1988 (19 games)
Most assists in one series (other than final): 14 (tied with Rick Middleton) in 1985 Conference Finals (six games vs. Chicago)
Most assists in final series: 10 in 1988 (four games, plus suspended game vs. Boston)
Most assists, one playoff game: 6 (tied with Mikko Leinonen) on April 9, 1987
Most assists, one playoff period: 3 -- Three assists by one player in one period of a playoff game has been recorded on 70 occasions. Gretzky has had three assists in one period five times
Most points, career: 382 -- 122 goals and 260 assists
Most points, one playoff year: 47 in 1985 (17 goals and 30 assists in 18 games)
Most points in final series: 13 in 1988 three goals and 10 assists (four games plus suspended game vs. Boston, three goals)
Most points, one playoff period: 4 (tied with nine other players)
Most short-handed goals, one playoff year: 3 (tied with five other players) 1983
Most short-handed goals, one playoff game: 2 (tied with eight other players) April 6, 1983
Most game winning goals in playoffs, career: 24 (tied with Brett Hull)
Most three-or-more goals games (hat trick): 10 (eight three-goal games, two four-goal games)

NDame616 · 11-10-2009, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GetBigyo

Yes.

Anyone with eyes knows how valuable he was to the Yanks WS wins and especially this year also.

Broxton, Lidge,Nathan,Paplebitch, Fuentes...all blew games for their teams this postseason while Rivera dominated.

ITT: We ignore impressive postseason success, and only discuss one game

Animal_Strength · 11-10-2009, 08:41 PM

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ITT: We ignore impressive postseason success, and only discuss one game

im a yanke fan and i agree with this.

but i will bring up a yankee stat. . remember when everyone was saying CC would choke? lol

mariano, yes the greatest closer ever, has not been infallible in the postseason as well.

but

best postseason ERA
best postseason whip
most postseason saves
most consecutive scoreless innings in the postseason
and im sure im missing more.

GetBigyo · 11-10-2009, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GetBigyo

Yes.

Anyone with eyes knows how valuable he was to the Yanks WS wins and especially this year also.

Broxton, Lidge,Nathan,Paplebitch, Fuentes...all blew games for their teams this postseason while Rivera dominated.

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Originally Posted by NDame616

ITT: We ignore impressive postseason success, and only discuss one game

learn to read

edit:i meant this postseason. i know Papelbitch hasnt let up a run (i think?)before that

Negatron617 · 11-10-2009, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Animal_Strength

im a yanke fan and i agree with this.

but i will bring up a yankee stat. . remember when everyone was saying CC would choke? lol

mariano, yes the greatest closer ever, has not been infallible in the postseason as well.

but

best postseason ERA
best postseason whip
most postseason saves
most consecutive scoreless innings in the postseason
and im sure im missing more.

well CC has always been dominant except for in the playoffs

just like arod.........it was justified to think they would fail

pap had not been scored upon in the playoffs until that last game.........no way you can compare Pap to rivera..........he better keep pitching in postseason for a loooooooooooong time

kethnaab · 11-10-2009, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Negatron617

nice............7 games may not be enough tho to give him the crown.........rivera has something like 100+ post season innings.....7 games doesnt compare

sure, but Rivera only had to stand out there for, what, 5-10 minutes each game? He'd throw 20ish pitches and be done. No doubt, he is easily the most effective closer, but he wasn't in the game the whole time, and he DID have blown saves

Terrell Davis ran for over 100 yards EVERY TIME.

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Originally Posted by Steveio

Wayne Gretzky playoff games: 382 points in 208 playoff games. Hmmm...

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Originally Posted by Negatron617

i wish i could put that into perspective somehow.............no offense

hurm....perspective....

so the Denver Broncos had won every Super Bowl from 1997 through 2000, ok? and then Tom Brady, in the 2001 postseason, throws 3 TDs and 250+ yards in every single playoff game, with some games of 5 TDs and 400 yards, etc.

and then he does that 4 seasons in a row, and the Pats win the Super Bowl 4 seasons in a row with Brady chucking 3-5 TDs, 250-400 yards per game

then in 2006, he gets traded to the Cleveland Browns, and by 2009, he has won ANOTHER Super Bowl with a former laughingstock and, of course, he chucks 300 yards and 4 TDs that season.

How's that for perspective?

Animal_Strength · 11-10-2009, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Negatron617

well CC has always been dominant except for in the playoffs

just like arod.........it was justified to think they would fail

pap had not been scored upon in the playoffs until that last game.........no way you can compare Pap to rivera..........he better keep pitching in postseason for a loooooooooooong time

i hope you mean it in the sense that you cant compare pap to rivera in the postseason because rivera is the best postseason pitcher of all time

Negatron617 · 11-10-2009, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Animal_Strength

i hope you mean it in the sense that you cant compare pap to rivera in the postseason because rivera is the best postseason pitcher of all time

something like that. pap is still mad young. no way you can even start to compare. maybe if pap is great in the playoffs for another 10 years.

Animal_Strength · 11-10-2009, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by kethnaab

sure, but Rivera only had to stand out there for, what, 5-10 minutes each game? He'd throw 20ish pitches and be done. No doubt, he is easily the most effective closer, but he wasn't in the game the whole time, and he DID have blown saves

Terrell Davis ran for over 100 yards EVERY TIME.

hurm....perspective....

so the Denver Broncos had won every Super Bowl from 1997 through 2000, ok? and then Tom Brady, in the 2001 postseason, throws 3 TDs and 250+ yards in every single playoff game, with some games of 5 TDs and 400 yards, etc.

and then he does that 4 seasons in a row, and the Pats win the Super Bowl 4 seasons in a row with Brady chucking 3-5 TDs, 250-400 yards per game

then in 2006, he gets traded to the Cleveland Browns, and by 2009, he has won ANOTHER Super Bowl with a former laughingstock and, of course, he chucks 300 yards and 4 TDs that season.

How's that for perspective?

someones comparing sports where its not due. . . . where rivera was probably on the mound for more time than any of those guys you mentioned in his career. the reason rivera is the best is because hes done it for so many years so consistently.

NDame616 · 11-10-2009, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GetBigyo

learn to read

edit:i meant this postseason. i know Papelbitch hasnt let up a run (i think?)before that

Thread title: Is Mariano Rivera the alltime best post season performer in sports? Your response: Discussing one game this postseason

Learn to read.

Animal_Strength · 11-10-2009, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Negatron617

something like that. pap is still mad young. no way you can even start to compare. maybe if pap is great in the playoffs for another 10 years.

exactly. im not a fan of papelbon himself but i can definitely respect his numbers.

GetBigyo · 11-10-2009, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by NDame616

Thread title: Is Mariano Rivera the alltime best post season performer in sports? Your response: Discussing one game this postseason

Learn to read.

It was just a reference. its not like i named just him or like i was comparing him to Mo.

I stated all the pitchers who blew saves this year in the postseason and how Mo was the only one dominant thru out.

I was just making an example.