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    first PH

    What are some good beginner PH? Looking for milder, non methyl like 3AD...
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    Xtren for non-methyl or Hdrol for methyl
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    Originally Posted by em-dubya View Post
    Xtren for non-methyl or Hdrol for methyl
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    I wouldnt run tren as a first PH...strong company push.

    look into hdrol or bold

    reason not to run tren first is because of side effects, has a much higher chance of raising your blood pressure than hdrol or bold and is notorious for it. search around and do plenty of research before running anything, good luck
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    Originally Posted by bclark22 View Post
    I wouldnt run tren as a first PH...strong company push.

    look into hdrol or bold

    reason not to run tren first is because of side effects, has a much higher chance of raising your blood pressure than hdrol or bold and is notorious for it. search around and do plenty of research before running anything, good luck


    HUH?? Bold and Hdrol notorious for BP???
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    Originally Posted by em-dubya View Post
    HUH?? Bold and Hdrol notorious for BP???
    no, tren. sorry if I made it confusing
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    Originally Posted by bclark22 View Post
    no, tren. sorry if I made it confusing
    Oh thats what Cycle Assist is for
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    With Bold just be prepared for BP spikes and treat with Celery Seed and COQ-10, in PCT also have melatonin on hand to help with nights you cant fall asleep from your hormones being out of sync.

    Id say Bold helped me jump up a whole other level in strength over a 6-8 wks period of time gains wore around ~11lbs net.
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    Originally Posted by djshortsleeve View Post
    What are some good beginner PH? Looking for milder, non methyl like 3AD...
    Why not just go with 3AD?
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    LG Science Masterdrol v2 or V3 is a good non-methly 1st pro-hormone.
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    There was a good thread around here about PH for beginners with some good suggestions for first PH use. I tried to search for it but couldn't find it. MAybe someone knows about it and can post it.
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    What about epistane as a first? Can still be easily found on the net.
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    11-oxo.... very mild 600mg at LEAST better for cutting then gaining mass though
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    I just started Bold -

    I am goin balls out on my log... check it out also first PH use - be prepared to have extra$$ for food I got a fukin appetite!!!!!! holy cow!!

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    Why not stack X-Tren and H-Drol together, with Bioforge as an OTC PCT? THEHUGE has an article around here showing it works well as a PCT standalone.
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    Originally Posted by steeldragons View Post
    Why not just go with 3AD?
    I figured this was discontinued or something. Not even the AX website has it.

    Has anyone run this?
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    Originally Posted by RIPPINSHEE View Post
    Why not stack X-Tren and H-Drol together, with Bioforge as an OTC PCT? THEHUGE has an article around here showing it works well as a PCT standalone.



    OP, don't stack as a first. And Bioforge shouldn't be used alone as OTC PCT. If you read more of his thread, you'd understand why.
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