Push Jerk tech and periodization

[jhoffm8]

Hey all,
Just a couple quick questions - Note - not a competitive lifter just a fan / rugger.
Technique
For the push jerk, should the athlete try to stick the lift after getting underneath the bar or should they plan on sinking down and dropping low. I've seen it done both ways and was curious and was hoping someone could shed some light on that.

Also, when periodizing your programs is the push jerk more appropriate during a 'strength' phase or a 'power' phase. Typically I have used the push press in the strength phases and the split jerk in the power phases and I was wondering where the push jerk comes in and how to use it effectively.

Thanks all! I must say though the oly section is not the busiest, everyone always delivers with solid responses.

[GoJu]

push jerk is catching the bar way above parallel, the way dimas and a few other lifters do it when it gets heavy and drives them into the full squat is the squat jerk; it would be more appropriate in a 'power phase', I don't think any phases are necessary at a certain point in a lifters career but that's neither here nor there

[raffiki]

Power jerks you just catch them were you can. There isn't much reason to catch it then sink down.

Whether it is a power (push) jerk or split jerk they are both high power movements. It doesn't matter how you use them.

[crackyflipside]

The athlete has to arch the back significantly [compared to split jerk] and shift the pelvis backwards with the push - jerk style of squatting under the jerk.




This is what Dimas coach is screaming in his world record lift in Barcelona, "katse kato ap tin mpara!" In English, Sit under the bar! When he just screamd "Katse!" he is telling him to sit. So that pretty much tells you what the body should be doing.

[gbg]

Hey all,
Just a couple quick questions - Note - not a competitive lifter just a fan / rugger.
Technique
For the push jerk, should the athlete try to stick the lift after getting underneath the bar or should they plan on sinking down and dropping low. I've seen it done both ways and was curious and was hoping someone could shed some light on that.

Also, when periodizing your programs is the push jerk more appropriate during a 'strength' phase or a 'power' phase. Typically I have used the push press in the strength phases and the split jerk in the power phases and I was wondering where the push jerk comes in and how to use it effectively.

Thanks all! I must say though the oly section is not the busiest, everyone always delivers with solid responses.

Just curious why do you push jerk instead of split jerk?

[jhoffm8]

Thanks all! Very helpful!
I really don't use the push jerk at all nor do I use it in training programs that's why I was curious. I've seen in listed in some S+C programs and was wondering why it would be different than using the split jerk (aside from the biomechanical aspect) or if there was a sport to which that was a very specific motion.
I think I'll stick to the push press and split jerk for now.
Thanks again all!

[gbg]

Thanks all! Very helpful!
I really don't use the push jerk at all nor do I use it in training programs that's why I was curious. I've seen in listed in some S+C programs and was wondering why it would be different than using the split jerk (aside from the biomechanical aspect) or if there was a sport to which that was a very specific motion.
I think I'll stick to the push press and split jerk for now.
Thanks again all!

At one time they had the press in comp but eventually took it out because the form was an issue, normally when doing it there was no back arch allowed as well as no push off with the legs, don't know the details of the history though.