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    whats the best non-steroidal muscle building supplement currently available

    i'm using creatine, but i'm not seeing much gains or changes in my performance. i'm taking lotsa water with the creatine and stuff, but i still see not much of a difference.
    is there a supplement which can initiate muscle growth?

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    Before even thinking about supplements, I'd be sure to have a solid training and DIET. Those two will make the biggest difference. You need to eat enough to grow.

    As for supplements, Creatine is one of the best. I'd also think about Beta-Alanine and adding some fish oil (although more for overall health). You might think about a protein supplement if you find it hard to get enough protein from whole food.
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    Originally Posted by master_tod View Post
    i'm using creatine, but i'm not seeing much gains or changes in my performance. i'm taking lotsa water with the creatine and stuff, but i still see not much of a difference.
    is there a supplement which can initiate muscle growth?
    Before opening this thread I had a strong suspicion the poster was not even 21 yet. I'm shocked, simply shocked, to see I was right.

    Lack of gains at your age is more likely due to an inadequate diet for your goal and/or an inadequate training routine and/or unrealistic goals.
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    Prohormone stuff is near to it I think. But if I were you, i'd make sure that diet is definetly right. I was considering the same kinda option, but you need to think about it before you go down that route because i swear after that you'll be asking yourself 'what's a good steroid?'

    Most likely you'd stop seeing gains with something strong so obviously you'd think steroids is a good choice. Wait until you're older before considering this type of option..but if you do wanna know, then I think Tren Bomb by Pharma Labs is good for muscle mass as well as strength.
    I have a good joke about water retention. But I'm going to hold onto it for now.

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    Originally Posted by Death_Head55555 View Post
    food and AA could help
    your username looks familiar.

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    I think some people have an exaggerated expectation on how creatine can benefit your strength and muscle gains.

    Creatine will help when it comes to squeezing out the last and final rep on your heaviest set, along with some water retention. Some people are so quick to dispel creatine from working because they think that they should be gaining muscle mass right away.

    I know your looking for the magic supplement but even if your were taking a PH or ASS you still need much more experience in training along with strong diet and exercise.
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    LOL at the people saying PHs.. most likey he'll lose all his gains from a cycle and damage himself.
    FOOD! Even onAAS/PHs you wont grow if you dont eat enough. They arent magic so sorry if you were thinking that. and dont turn into one of the retards that caused this banning on PHs to happen because they got a size 36B breast now and crying to mommy.

    Food protein creatine. Simple cheap and very effective.

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    I love all the food responses in the SUPPLEMENT section.
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    size-on
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    i feel like a broken record, cause those are always my responses to threads like this

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    Originally Posted by Trapezius82 View Post
    I think some people have an exaggerated expectation on how creatine can benefit your strength and muscle gains.

    Creatine will help when it comes to squeezing out the last and final rep on your heaviest set, along with some water retention. Some people are so quick to dispel creatine from working because they think that they should be gaining muscle mass right away.

    I know your looking for the magic supplement but even if your were taking a PH or ASS you still need much more experience in training along with strong diet and exercise.
    I agree, except when on "ASS", you gain like 10 lbs a day
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    Originally Posted by quank View Post
    your username looks familiar.
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    Creatine and X-Factor.

    You could have some eaa's or bcaa's pre and during your workout too. Protein hydrolysates are something to experiment with in combination with bcaa's.

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    Originally Posted by MrLJizzle View Post
    looks tasty


    but for supplements, i love USP Labs Prime
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    Protein and creatine are what you need to be taking


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    Originally Posted by jorgemontenegro View Post
    size-on
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    i feel like a broken record, cause those are always my responses to threads like this
    Originally Posted by Adjusting View Post
    Creatine and X-Factor.

    You could have some eaa's or bcaa's pre and during your workout too. Protein hydrolysates are something to experiment with in combination with bcaa's.
    Originally Posted by AConrad00 View Post
    Protein and creatine are what you need to be taking


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    This....protein, AA, and Creatine

    I am partial to X-factor and size-on

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    your 20 dont listen to that crap about getting on a Test boost your far to young to even think about it.. it may sound intriguing but no the damage you can do internally is far worse than the benefits of taking it..

    if you are having a hard time making gains I bet it has something to do with your diet and your exercise routine.. are you changing up your routine enough to keep it kinda confused?? are you pushing your max's and reps to make your body feel the need to grow??

    dont cover up the problem with a million supplements.. your base is nutrition and proper form (and /a smart training routine) work with these first to find which one is best for you and what you want to see.. and as far as supps.. whey protein, creatine, BCAA's, multi v's, Water. : ) oh and Eat

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    hyacinth water non steroid. I know a guy who swears by this stuff, anyone ever heard of it?

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    Not a sexy answer, but creatine and protein powder? They are what I consider muscle-building staples.

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