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11-08-2009, 11:19 PM
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sWoLe
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AllGenetix Primaforce 1,3-Dimethylamylamine Log
Primaforce 1,3-Dimethylamylamine
About Me
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 201lb
Age: 22
Purpose
Simple and straight forward. To test and examine the preWO performance enhancing capabilities of Primaforce 1,3-Dimethylamylamine and to compare and review the product to similar products that contain the same ingredient or claim the same response. This is will be a pure, unbiased review of the effectiveness, quality, and reliability of Primaforce 1,3-Dimethylamylamine. I will review 1,3-Dimethylamylamine based on its own individual characteristics, but I will be using comparitive analysis to compare its effects to other preWO products in regards to energy, pump, strength, stamina, and mindset.
Expectations:
I have used geranium in the past with ZAP and Jacked, but not by itself. I am very interested to see the energy and cognitive effects that geranium has to offer in the preWO and daily use setting.
Goals
History: I have been training seriously for about 2-3 years. Only supplements that I have used on a regular basis are Multi, Fish Oil, Whey, Creatine, CORE ABC, along with numerous preWO supplements such as Core ZAP, USPLabs Jacked, Morph, PreSurge, and others.
Current Goals: I lift hard, I condition hard, I don't rest as much as I need to. Hopefully this stack will allow me to add some LBM and strength. My ultimate goal is to be around 210lbs with the same BF%. Increased work capacity through GPP and HIIT while increasing strength is another goal of mine along with hypertrophy. Yes, I try to do it all!
Training
Right now I am on an Upper/Lower/Off/Push/Pull/Legs/Off routine with spontaneous training here and there depending on how I feel. I have been continually setting PR's as of late so I will keep this set-up until I plateau. I lift heavy, intensely, and don't like long rest periods.
Diet
Currently bulking on 4.3k + with 600+g carbs, 250g protein, and 70-90g fat. I eat a lot of food and am looking to add a few pounds LBM with the inclusion of WF into the preWO mix. I will continually bump up cals if progress stalls.
Supplementation
Whey (UP1.0/2.0)
Core ABC
Fish Oil
Green Tea
ZMA
The Claims & Dosage Timing
1-2 Caps Morning & Pre-WO
1,3-Dimethylamylamine is a derivative of geranium oil which resembles the body?s own chemical messenger, epinephrine (adrenaline). Like adrenaline, 1,3-Dimethylamylamine is a powerful CNS stimulant, for added energy, increased clarity and a boost in physical performance, especially valuable to athletes during calorie restriction or when a high level of focus is needed. For fat loss, 1,3-Dimethylamylamine works through a similar chemical pathway as ephedrine, causing a rise in cAMP, the chemical messenger that triggers fat release.
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11-08-2009, 11:32 PM
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sWoLe
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Initial Review
Energy
Wow, holy crap! I started with 2 caps 30 minutes preWO on a slightly empty stomach and all I have to say was this got me amped, jittery, and almost too "in the zone". I was almost shaking as I am very intolerant to stims and this one hit me hard. I didn't have much on the stomach so I wasn't surprised on the increased effectiveness.
Cognitive Effect
Damn, I was really focused and almost hyperfocused here. A slight anxiety feeling wasn't the best feeling, but once I got into the workout it was a pure mindset of determination and a mental attack on the weights. Kind of cool how it can effect you that much, but scary at the same time.
Impact
Overall I could really feel the energy boost and cognition effect of 2 caps preWO, but will be lowering the dose to 1 cap so that I can build up my tolerance to the stim effect. The effect is very real and I could feel it kick in about 20 minutes post ingestion. I really enjoyed the energy and mental alertness, but it was a bit over the top for the first dose. The good thing was there was no crash throughout the workout and it was a smooth weaning off effect which surprised me as I figured it would make me crash after it hit so hard. I will be lowering the dose and then work my way up!
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11-09-2009, 05:41 AM
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Subbed for sure Kirk, I have not read to much into this as I am a stim junkie, I assume this needs to be cycled and will you be taking it everyday 1x per day?
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11-10-2009, 09:28 AM
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Follow Up Review
Energy
1 Cap is a much better decision for me as my energy was much smoother and no jitters. Dosed it on a pretty empty stomach and it hit pretty quickly and smoothly.
Cognitive Effect
Still a great "in the zone" feeling, but not hyperfocused like on 2 caps.
Impact
Overall a much better experience on 1 cap. I got the energy and focus I needed without the crazy side effects and over pumped feel. You DO NOT need to cycle it as I will be ramping up the dosage as my body adapts to the new stimulus.
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11-12-2009, 10:18 PM
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Follow Up Review
Energy
I have been able to bump the dosage up to 2 caps preWO and the energy has been great. Also started to do an additional cap split up throughout the day. This keeps the energy nice and smooth throughout the day and no crash! Good ish. Will continue to progress the dosage.
Cognitive Effect
In a solid mental state throughout the day with the split dosages and increased preWO dose to 2. Nothing crazy, but more focused and mental clarity.
Impact
I love how the dosage progression works as my body seems to be tolerating the stim and cognitive effect much better. Great energy and i may start incorporating some caffeine preWO like Core ZAP stacks it.
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11-15-2009, 05:37 PM
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Follow Up Review
Energy
Wow, all I can say is WOW. The energy is exponentially getting stronger and stronger. I tried 3 caps, and it was too much, but 2 caps with 200mg caffeine was perfect. It seems like they work synergistically together to give you that buzz feel, but without the crazy jitters. Definitely a great combo and 2 caps seems to be the best for me. 2x a day is amazing and smooth energy all day long!
Cognitive Effect
This aspect is always solid and constant. I can always expect for this to be locked in a to be in the zone every workout, love it!
Impact
Impact of the product increases tremendously with caffeine added to it, but i know that a lot of people don't want to use caffeine. It still gives you a great energy boost with 2-3 caps preWO and another 2 caps later in the day. The more empty your stomach is the harder it hits fo sho!
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11-19-2009, 11:15 PM
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Nothing really new to report. Still dosing it 2 preWO 2 at another time in the day on a pretty empty stomach. Great energy and no crash. Mental clarity and focus is spot on and I am digging this specific dosage protocol. Feeling good!
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11-23-2009, 10:38 PM
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tried upping the dosage to 3 caps 2x a day and it was a bit much. almost neurotic jittery type of energy, especially with the caffeine. i think 2 caps is perfect, smooth energy and no crash.
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11-27-2009, 03:26 PM
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So I have taken a few days off from the gym, but have still continued to dose the 1, 3 at 2 caps per day. The energy and mental focus is still there and I have had no crashes or jitters. I am surprised on how smooth the energy is without even working out! great ish!
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