Let's all be honest with each other... Brett Rogers is NOT an elite fighter.... not at all. He is a big power puncher but that is it.... I feel like Brock Lesnar would of beat Rogers in less then 2 mins via GNP.
Last night he gave the man many lable unbeatable his toughest fight to date......thats right, a guy who basically has one tool, which is punching, was a few punches away while on top of Fedor of the fight being stopped......
At the end of the day Fedor pulled it off......but he was out punched in the first round and was shaken up and had his nose broken early....then when he decided not to stand and punch with Rogers he went to the ground game...only to not suceed in it and found himself on the bottom of some huge bombs by Rogers... I felt if Rogers kept swinging Big John would of stopped it as he was hitting Fedor flush with a few shots while on top.
Fedor scored the flash knockdown and got the W and at the end of the day thats all that matters...but he nearly got beat by someone who isn't a top guy..... someone who Brock would beat easily in my opinion.
I love Fedor....but he would not beat Lesnar and last night any doubts I had about that were gone.
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11-08-2009, 09:28 AM #1RUTHLESS AGGRESSION!!!!
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I'm a Fedor fan but last night I feel he got exposed...
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11-08-2009, 09:29 AM #2Registered User
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idiot, fedor is often hurt in his fights, rocked by fujita, slammed on his head by randleman, almost kimura'd by mark hunt, absorb a Crocop kick only to smash them seconds later, the only thing that got "exposed" last night was fedor's unique ability to stay calm and wait for his oppertunity after having his nose broken at the very beginning of the fight.
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11-08-2009, 09:32 AM #3Registered User
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some chinese dude rocked fedor way harder then brett ever did.
also this is like the 1578th time his face busted open.
yet after all that u were a "fan" and now u feel he got exposed ?
ur a brett rogers fan arent you ?
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11-08-2009, 09:33 AM #4fapping wilst on knees
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Fedor is a differnet animal, he feels out his opponent, finds the weak spot, then goes for it like a tiger in heat.
Nothing got exposed, but I felt his training camp was probably much less for this fight than a top level contender.10k+
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11-08-2009, 09:38 AM #5he nearly got beat? when? he was cut bad but he kept his composure. he found himself in a bad position and took some punishment but he got out of it and got back to his feet.Originally Posted by my_whey
and also it wasn't a flash knockdown:
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11-08-2009, 09:42 AM #6the come up
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Just watched the fight on Youtube.
Fedor is a f*cking ANIMAL. Jesus.
At no point in the fight was he close to losing, Fedor can take a beating.It's easier to get the single 10 at the bar, than one of the five 8s.
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11-08-2009, 09:45 AM #7Registered User
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How was Fedor outpunched in the first round when one of his two knockdowns came in the first round? Not to mention Rogers never knocked Fedor down.
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11-08-2009, 09:45 AM #8OMNISCIENT.
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what the hell are you talking about op. Rogers would have a legitimate chance at beating Lesnar, more specifically because Lesnar's chin is very suspect. Your post is all wrong, you are not a Fedor fan clearly, because you do not understand how he fights. How can people be so wrong and yet so sure of themselves?
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11-08-2009, 09:46 AM #9RUTHLESS AGGRESSION!!!!
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Fedor was VERY close to losing when Rogers was doing the GNP... I already said that.
He hit Fedor with about 3-4 good shots while on top... a good 2-3 more and big John may of stepped in as I have seen fights stopped for much less.
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11-08-2009, 09:48 AM #10
How did he get exposed? lol, the thing about Fedor and why it makes people so nervous is the fact that he usually looks very calm and some times can look sloppy in what he's doing. He always prevails, so to say he was exposed in this match is completely retarded and shows you don't know what you are talking about.
The only thing that might have been "exposed" now is his paper skin, and how easy he 1) bruises and 2) bleeds... but even that was fairly known by "hardcore" fans. I think that's his only weakness really, easily bruises and easily bleeds.
Other than that, Fedor might and can look like he's
1) sloppy
2) gassed
3) rocked
4) not controlling the fight
5) etc
... but every second of the fight he usually stays cool and is able to capitalize sooner or later. Lately it has been sooner than later though.
Fedor beats his opponents before they enter the ring, no matter what his opponents say. If anyone has been exposed between Lesnar and Fedor it is Lesnar... his cardio is questionable as seen when he was fighting Randy.
I don't doubt Brock can out muscle Fedor but Fedor has more experience, better skill and is smarter. We can argue all day about this but ultimately it is all moot until they fight, and that's if it every happens."Modern man is conditioned to expect instant gratification but any success or triumph realized quickly, with only marginal effort is necessarily shallow. Meaningful achievement takes time, hard work, persistence, patience, proper intent and constant self-awareness. The path to such success is punctuated by failure, consolidation and renewed effort. Personal reconstruction is art." - MFT
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11-08-2009, 09:48 AM #11RUTHLESS AGGRESSION!!!!
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Lesnar's chin is suspect? and what are you backing this up with? the times he has been dropped? which is uhmmmmm...never? rogers would have little to no chance of beating Lesnar IMO.Originally Posted by RiK
Fedor nut huggers need to see the real picture...which is he looked like crap last night against a guy who is not an elite fighter.
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11-08-2009, 09:49 AM #12Registered User
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The slow motion gifs on Sherdog already showed Fedor only got hit clean twice, but both punches didn't have enough power to really do anything. Not to mention Rogers' GnP was desperate since he was put in an armbar right after the GnP. The cage messed up the attempt (Fedor's first time fighting in a cage).Originally Posted by my_whey
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11-08-2009, 09:49 AM #13Keep going
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This.Originally Posted by RiK
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11-08-2009, 09:49 AM #14
1) he was no where near close to losing as those punches weren't doing much.Originally Posted by my_whey
2) Big John wouldn't have stopped the fight prematurely, he's arguably the best ref and he would NOT have stopped the fight even if Rogers got in 5-10 more punches."Modern man is conditioned to expect instant gratification but any success or triumph realized quickly, with only marginal effort is necessarily shallow. Meaningful achievement takes time, hard work, persistence, patience, proper intent and constant self-awareness. The path to such success is punctuated by failure, consolidation and renewed effort. Personal reconstruction is art." - MFT
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11-08-2009, 09:52 AM #15RUTHLESS AGGRESSION!!!!
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LOL yea..ok.Originally Posted by Mises
Yes, the fight would of been stopped if Rogers hit Fedor 5-10 more times like he did with those 2-3 good shots he hit him with.
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11-08-2009, 09:52 AM #16^oh really? skip to about the 4 minute mark here:Originally Posted by my_whey
fedor is in a bad position, takes a few punches and then goes immediateley to an arm bar attempt. he was not even close to having the fight stopped. i don't know what fight you watched last night.#1 Oakland A's fan!
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11-08-2009, 09:59 AM #17the come up
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not dominating the fight 100% of the time does not = looking like crap.Originally Posted by my_whey
He's not the best because his opponents never hurt him, he's the best because even when they're on top pounding on him he turns it around easily and doesn't even look phased, like what happened last night. I'd like to see Rogers on top of you smashing your head in and then get out as easy as Fedor made it look.It's easier to get the single 10 at the bar, than one of the five 8s.
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11-08-2009, 10:02 AM #18RUTHLESS AGGRESSION!!!!
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but the "best fighter in MMA and maybe the world" wouldn't let a Brett Rogers get on top of him, mount him and smash him in the face a few times....Originally Posted by brah_of_iron
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11-08-2009, 10:02 AM #19Misc Nihilist
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lol Rogers was Fedor's toughest fight to date? That's why he got KO'd in the 2nd round, right?
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11-08-2009, 10:03 AM #20Always Lurkin
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Yeah and IF grandma had nuts she'd be grandpa...Originally Posted by my_whey
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11-08-2009, 10:04 AM #21The White Rampage
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we call that early stoppage lolOriginally Posted by my_whey
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11-08-2009, 10:05 AM #22RUTHLESS AGGRESSION!!!!
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yes, he did.Originally Posted by forcefedfreak
he also broke Fedor's nose with the first punch, got out of submission holds by Fedor and ground and pounded Fedor.
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even though he didn't take this on the chin, he did take it on the top of his head.Originally Posted by my_whey
the man can take a drop.
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11-08-2009, 10:06 AM #24... and why not? It's MMA, everyone still has a punchers chance, it's not like this is some freaking arcade where Fedor is unstoppable or untouchable. He is human and he does bleed lol.Originally Posted by my_whey
You're completely delusional to think that because Fedor is the best fighter in MMA he can't be touched. That's not MMA, and to think the top fighter is untouchable is completely retarded. So either wake up and realize that or go play your PS3\XBOX 360"Modern man is conditioned to expect instant gratification but any success or triumph realized quickly, with only marginal effort is necessarily shallow. Meaningful achievement takes time, hard work, persistence, patience, proper intent and constant self-awareness. The path to such success is punctuated by failure, consolidation and renewed effort. Personal reconstruction is art." - MFT
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11-08-2009, 10:07 AM #25misc broscientist grad.
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Fedor did an amazing job...would of been alot better also if he didn't get his nose broken in the first few seconds. Having to breathe out of your mouth at the very start will of course fck u up some.
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11-08-2009, 10:07 AM #26the come up
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Rogers is strong and can throw a good punch, so obviously he's gonna be able to land a few on Fedor. Again just because you're the best doesn't mean you won't take some shots. But the point is at no time during the fight did Fedor look like he was losing, plain and simple, he's been in much worse situations.Originally Posted by my_whey
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11-08-2009, 10:08 AM #27I'm a guy.
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And Fedor knocked him out in return. Sounds like a fair trade.Originally Posted by my_whey
Also, let's not pretend that Lesnar on his feet is the same as Rogers lol.Access the gun's off the earth axis
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lol at haters giving Rogers the 1st round. wtf are yall smoking? Fedor took him down, threw him around the octagon and landed some clear shots on the feet. All Rogers did was land 2 punches (which haters claim were 7-8 lol) while he was on top. Fedor looked awesome in this fight, he's still the badest mofo on the planet.
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11-08-2009, 10:10 AM #29Always Lurkin
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Have you even watched any of fedor's fights in the past ????? this wasnt even close to his toughest fight...lolOriginally Posted by my_whey
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11-08-2009, 10:15 AM #30not saying there are NO great athletes....Originally Posted by brah_of_iron
but you look at that main even last night... you cant tell me either of those guys has the conditioning/atheltic ability/fast twitch muscles of even a mid level boxer.
fedor could have done nothing but counter punched and knocked dude out(which he did)
roger threw such wide sloppy slow ass punches... even fedor did. he finally shortened one up and caught rogers on the chin... on the inside of a rogers hook.
i guess im just a boxing fan and that was like watchin a terrible golden gloves match... actually it was more like back yard boxing... and this is supposed to be the best mma guy in the world??
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