Im eating only...meat, very few eggs and extra old cheddar cheese(.05g lactose/oz) and im eating 3500-4500 calories per day and im maintaining weight(not that i care bout weight) BUT in 4 weeks im down .75inch in waist, 1inch in thighs and my bicep is .5inch bigger and thats what i care about!
I know with LOW carb you have to watch calories but with what im eating which is very, very low carb i dont think theres any use to count calories....
Any ways just sharing some results with what ive been doing lately and seeiing if anyone else is kinda doing the same thing with diet or seeing results like mine?
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11-07-2009, 08:12 AM #1Registered User
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trace carbs means forget calories
I only give advice that works with me
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11-07-2009, 08:17 AM #2I scare people.
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At this time you are over-eating bigtime.
You need no more than 2500cals a day and you count EVERYTHING. A month of this diet should have you a lot less than that if done properly. You could be just losing water weight and gaining fat.
Don't start with the excuses that you shouldn't could this or that or the other thing seeing it is you just trying to convince yourself to eat more.
Common sense.Like Brutis...you can do dis.
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11-07-2009, 08:21 AM #3Keto Dieting :)
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I don't think he's asking for advice?Originally Posted by meat..eater
He's content with his diet...Keto Diet:
Start - June 13th - 198 lbs (~??% bf)
November 06, 2009 - 168 lbs (14% bf)
Almost 4 weeks into Bulk:
December 04, 2009 - 180 lbs @ 17%
December 12, 2009 - 184 lbs
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11-07-2009, 08:25 AM #4I scare people.
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Mind you own business. I am not looking for your validation to steer him on the right path.Originally Posted by MuZI
He is obviously overeating now and if you won't respect him enough to tell him, I will.Like Brutis...you can do dis.
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11-07-2009, 08:27 AM #5Registered User
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how the hell do you know how much he needs?Originally Posted by CanuckTank
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11-07-2009, 08:28 AM #6Registered User
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thank you for your input and advice, i know that im "overeating" but im losing inches.....Originally Posted by CanuckTank
I only give advice that works with me
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11-07-2009, 08:29 AM #7I scare people.
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Who at 205lbs and 5'11" need 4500cals a day ON A DIET!Originally Posted by RealMenDeadLift
I eat 2500 to 3000 a day normally and I am almost 50lbs heavier.
Anyone thinking that is normal is delusional.Like Brutis...you can do dis.
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11-07-2009, 08:30 AM #8Registered User
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i am not, thank you, i am just saying some results that ive had...and personally i think they are very reasonable...if i were to cut calories obviously i would lose more but im happy at the pace and results im getting by doing this.Originally Posted by MuZI
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11-07-2009, 08:31 AM #9Registered User
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personally i think there is a lot of science to do with this diet....i do respect your view though, i know what you meanOriginally Posted by CanuckTank
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11-07-2009, 08:32 AM #10Registered User
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I have seen people cut from 1500 calories all the way up to 4-5k caloriesOriginally Posted by CanuckTank
Everyone's body's are different, you may just have a much slower metabolic system than him
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11-07-2009, 08:33 AM #11Registered User
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No more "science" than any other isocaloric diet with similar protein intakeOriginally Posted by meat..eater
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11-07-2009, 08:35 AM #12I scare people.
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More than likely you are losing water weight and possibly gaining fat from overeating.Originally Posted by meat..eater
You never base a diet off of one dimension. You base it off of a scale, inches and how you look. Not just one.
Right now you are eating over 1500 more than your maintanence and that will result in weight gain.
On a keto diet, 4 weeks will never result in measurements in fractions of inches. 0.5 here and 0.75 there is showing you that you are not really losing much. If done properly you should be losing a lot more than that.Like Brutis...you can do dis.
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How do you know he is eating 1500 over maintenance? Did you analyze his system in a controlled metabolic ward for several weeks?Originally Posted by CanuckTank
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11-07-2009, 08:37 AM #14I scare people.
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Sorry, but unless he is on clen or ephedra, there is no way his body is special enough at 5'11" and 205 to need that kind of caloric intake and justifying it is only covering up ignorance.Originally Posted by RealMenDeadLift
You failed to add in the fact i bet the person on 4-5k is probably a lot taller and more than likely bigger than him.Like Brutis...you can do dis.
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well i personally really believe that insulin and growth hormone plays a big role with what you body does with the food you take in.Originally Posted by RealMenDeadLift
I only give advice that works with me
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11-07-2009, 08:40 AM #16Registered User
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well i dont really need to lose to much as im at 15% BF and the only thing i need to cut for is a photo shoot on march 28thOriginally Posted by CanuckTank
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11-07-2009, 08:41 AM #17I scare people.
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Because I am a lot heavier than him and my maintanence is less than that. And don't give me any bull about "he might be different or special" because he isn't.Originally Posted by RealMenDeadLift
He is overeating and asking opinion on whether he can overeat some more by discounting low carb calories.
No one needs 4500cals on a diet....Like Brutis...you can do dis.
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11-07-2009, 08:41 AM #18Registered User
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He may have an overactive thyroidOriginally Posted by CanuckTank
He may be very active along with a fast metabolism
Im not saying you are wrong just that you are making huge assumptions that you have no business making when giving advice to people. 2500 calories may be undereating for him and you have no way of knowing that.
If he is overeating as much as you say he will find out shortly, let him learn from his mistakes.
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11-07-2009, 08:42 AM #19Pass The Refridgerator
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Are you doing the TKD or the CKD? Is this your first time on keto?Originally Posted by meat..eater
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11-07-2009, 08:42 AM #20I scare people.
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Sure thing, but why drag it out over 6 months when you can actually diet properly and lose it faster over maybe 2 at most.Originally Posted by meat..eater
Right now you are practically over maintanence and you loss is more than likely all water and no fat.Like Brutis...you can do dis.
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uhh of course they do, but that doesn't mean your body breaks the laws of physicsOriginally Posted by meat..eater
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11-07-2009, 08:47 AM #22I scare people.
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See, here comes the "he might be special comments".Originally Posted by RealMenDeadLift
Maybe he is superman, maybe he has a nuclear generator in his knee cap.
there are way too many people in the keto forum condoning overeating just because "hey, it is low carb" or "I have a fast metabolism" seeing most just don't want to commit to dieting. All they want is to say they are dieting and throw hope into the wind that it will work.
That is why a lot of people in this forum disappear and never come back.
But regardless, I have said what I wanted to say. I am only trying ot help and there is a lot of ignorance in this thread based off of people saying that if I don't follow the same ignorant trend, I must be wrong.Like Brutis...you can do dis.
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I personally know several people with overactive thyroidsOriginally Posted by CanuckTank
It isn't too "special" at all.
I agree that alot of people have delusions of grandeur but all you can do is educate them and let them learn from their own mistakes.
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11-07-2009, 08:57 AM #24I scare people.
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Well, if I can steer him before he makes a mistake then why not? That's the whole point of these forums. We aren't here to watch people fail.Originally Posted by RealMenDeadLift
I like people to succeed.Like Brutis...you can do dis.
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How is learning from one's mistakes failure?Originally Posted by CanuckTank
Giving up completely is failure, and if he doesn't have the moxy to just stick with it....there are plenty other of people who need help AND want it.
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you could be right, just because of the loss of water without the carbs...but im gunna give it another few weeks and if it doesnt work out than ill do commited isocaloric dieting. I appreciate your help big time and helping me notice some things.Originally Posted by CanuckTank
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iso=same isocaloric would mean you dont change caloriesOriginally Posted by meat..eater
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11-07-2009, 09:27 AM #28Registered User
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my mistake, i than mean i calorie deficiencyOriginally Posted by RealMenDeadLift
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11-07-2009, 09:41 AM #29I Train UFC
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Canuck i got your back man.
Unless Op is one of the very special bodily functions, there's is no way you can eat 1500 calories over maintenance and still lose fat. That just breaks the law of thermodynamics? Even myself i am 5'8 210 pounds and if i consume 2.5k+ cals per day, i'll get fatter.
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If you are such an expert on dieting and have infinite knowledge about Keto Diets and how to "properly" lose weight then why the F**K arent YOU in better shape?????Originally Posted by CanuckTank
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