Liberals rightfully blame giant corporations for destroying our country...

[NorthMass]

yet why do they always fail to realize that the government enables these corporations to become so massive by destroying competition, allowing them to become monopolies and duopolies? The only solution liberals offer is more government, just like when it comes to economics and Keynesians. The Keynesian solution to everything is just spend more, even when massive spending gets us into economic recessions!

[reyalp]

cue Rand quote

[thepointman]

Protip: The government doesn't have to be owned by corporations, unlike what the GOP wants. The govenrment is there to regulate them, not control them. In Republican fantasyland, corporations would be able to draw blank checks from the government whenever they wanted and bend over the consumer at every opportunity.

Summary

Social democracy: Government works for the people to ensure fair trade and sound corporate practices and a healthy capitalist market
Republicans: We're going to subsidize companies and give them huge hand-outs and ignore everything they do to kill competition and screw over the consumer.
Libertarians: Republicans, without the hand outs

[IraHays]

Originally Posted by reyalp

cue Rand quote

Being raped is sexually satisfying.

[gjohnson5]

Originally Posted by thepointman

Protip: The government doesn't have to be owned by corporations, unlike what the GOP wants. The govenrment is there to regulate them, not control them. In Republican fantasyland, corporations would be able to draw blank checks from the government whenever they wanted and bend over the consumer at every opportunity.

Summary: Government works for the people, not for Enron.

Well said

[IraHays]

Originally Posted by thepointman

Protip: The government doesn't have to be owned by corporations, unlike what the GOP wants. The govenrment is there to regulate them, not control them. In Republican fantasyland, corporations would be able to draw blank checks from the government whenever they wanted and bend over the consumer at every opportunity.

How much did Obama and Democrates give to corporations again?????

[reyalp]

Originally Posted by IraHays

Being raped is sexually satisfying.

resistance only does what?

[NorthMass]

Originally Posted by thepointman

Protip: The government doesn't have to be owned by corporations, unlike what the GOP wants. The govenrment is there to regulate them, not control them. In Republican fantasyland, corporations would be able to draw blank checks from the government whenever they wanted and bend over the consumer at every opportunity.

Summary

Social democracy: Government works for the people to ensure fair trade and sound corporate practices and a healthy capitalist market
Republicans: We're going to subsidize companies and give them huge hand-outs and ignore everything they do to kill competition and screw over the consumer.
Libertarians: Republicans, without the hand outs

you honestly just proved my original point

we already regulate corporations, and all that happens is the big corporations become more powerful because the small businesses can't put up with the costs of regulations.

[gjohnson5]

Originally Posted by NorthMass

you honestly just proved my original point

we already regulate corporations, and all that happens is the big corporations become more powerful because the small businesses can't put up with the costs of regulations.

I disagree
Competition aren't stifled by government regulation. (seeing as we removed most of those regulations such as Sox , hard asset accounting, glass stegall, and most anti trust)
Competition is stifled by the cost of competing. Anti competitive practices such as market share saturation by selling a product at a loss are common practices and stifles innovation and choice

[ElMariachi]

Originally Posted by thepointman

Protip: The government doesn't have to be owned by corporations, unlike what the GOP wants. The govenrment is there to regulate them, not control them. In Republican fantasyland, corporations would be able to draw blank checks from the government whenever they wanted and bend over the consumer at every opportunity.

Summary

Social democracy: Government works for the people to ensure fair trade and sound corporate practices and a healthy capitalist market
Republicans: We're going to subsidize companies and give them huge hand-outs and ignore everything they do to kill competition and screw over the consumer.
Libertarians: Republicans, without the hand outs

Probably the single most retarded thing, ass-backwards thing I've heard in my whole time on these forums, and that is saying A LOT. Congratulations.

[JuanDenver]

[JuanDenver]

Originally Posted by ElMariachi

Probably the single most retarded thing, ass-backwards thing I've heard in my whole time on these forums, and that is saying A LOT. Congratulations.

Well, yesterday he did say that it was ok for the government to pass net nutrality laws

[gjohnson5]

Originally Posted by ElMariachi

Probably the single most retarded thing, ass-backwards thing I've heard in my whole time on these forums, and that is saying A LOT. Congratulations.

This is a very nice way to defend the position that you have as well....

[IraHays]

Originally Posted by IraHays

How much did Obama and Democrates give to corporations again?????

Serious, I've lost count. Anyone got the number?

[goody1]

Originally Posted by IraHays

Serious, I've lost count. Anyone got the number?

Haven't you heard. It's only bad when Republicans do this.
Seems to be the motto for some select posters in the R/P

[ElMariachi]

Originally Posted by gjohnson5

This is a very nice way to defend the position that you have as well....

For idiocy of that high caliber, there's really no suitable response other than a not-so-subtle rolling of the eyes or a swift hand swipe upside the back of the head.

[thepointman]

Originally Posted by ElMariachi

Probably the single most retarded thing, ass-backwards thing I've heard in my whole time on these forums, and that is saying A LOT. Congratulations.

So what do you call what the GOP wants: a mandate for every American to purchase PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE with no restriction on the insurance companies (in fact -- big tax breaks for them)? That's a handout if I've ever seen one.

And TARP was Obama fixing Bush's mess. If we had the proper regulations in the first place, it wouldn't be needed.

[IraHays]

Originally Posted by thepointman

And TARP was Obama fixing Bush's mess.

lulz. You guys are pathetic.

[JuanDenver]

Thanks to the person who final;y put the troll in red.

[goody1]

Originally Posted by thepointman

So what do you call what the GOP wants: a mandate for every American to purchase PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE with no restriction on the insurance companies (in fact -- big tax breaks for them)? That's a handout if I've ever seen one.

And TARP was Obama fixing Bush's mess. If we had the proper regulations in the first place, it wouldn't be needed.

Wasn't Bush still president when TARP came about??????????/

[TheGunther]

In the early 1900s, when the phone companies got too big, the government split the companies to create more competition. Why has this not been adhered to in other industries. By the looks of new acquisitions the phone companies are headed back to monopoly.

[ElMariachi]

......Because Democrats never get in bed with corporations...........if that ever happened, the earth might simply fall off its axis.


I'm sure that GE, Google, Hollywood, most of the banks(who don't care who butters their bread), Progressive, Disney, Microsoft, Exelon.....etc......haven't received this sad news.

[JuanDenver]

Originally Posted by TheGunther

In the early 1900s, when the phone companies got too big, the government split the companies to create more competition. Why has this not been adhered to in other industries. By the looks of new acquisitions the phone companies are headed back to monopoly.

Like everything else....money/contracts.


You can see it in action anytime you watch the ge-governement propaganda tv, i mean nbc/pmsnbc.

Why do you think nbc is constantly pushing the theory that co2 causes global warming?

Because ge stands to make billions in the useless green energy.

[WilyCoder]

Originally Posted by TheGunther

In the early 1900s, when the phone companies got too big, the government split the companies to create more competition. Why has this not been adhered to in other industries. By the looks of new acquisitions the phone companies are headed back to monopoly.

Its a natural conclusion of capitalism for megacorps to form...

You can break them up, but given enough time they just reform.

You can't exactly set limits either, because then you're labeled anti-capitalist.

I don't know what the solution is, but capitalism is not a perfect system.

[Stizzel]

Originally Posted by goody1

Wasn't Bush still president when TARP came about??????????/

When lefties support TARP, Obama gets credit. When you point out where TARP has failed though, thats when its Bush's fault.