So my girlfriend wants to volunteer helping lion cubs in south africa. Is this safe?

**subzero789** · 07-30-2006, 02:53 PM

It's her dream to work with animals. She has chosen a program which is a one month trip to south africa volunteering with lions . She takes a huge flight to africa gets off the plane, takes a 2 hour bus ride to the animal place then works for a month and goes to town with giudes. She will be going either alone or with my sister. they are both 22 year old white girls, is this safe or what?

and just to answer your questions now,no they are not getting paid it's volunteer work. They are the ones paying $5000 each. (not that i care about the money)

so is this safe?

**karmazon** · 07-30-2006, 02:56 PM

Don't ever put "safe" and "africa" in one sentence

**Mikey1** · 07-30-2006, 03:00 PM

two 22 year old girls are never safe when away from home

**stillskinny** · 07-30-2006, 03:04 PM

Pretty safe, just make sure she dont get PIITB

**fehzan** · 07-30-2006, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by stillskinny

Pretty safe, just make sure she dont get PIITB

by the king of the jungle if ya know what I mean.

**Cheetah** · 07-30-2006, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by karmazon

Don't ever put "safe" and "africa" in one sentence

Think about it. Is there anywhere that's actually SAFE?

**timevalue** · 07-30-2006, 03:22 PM

you'd have to consider whether they are staying in a compound and what sort of security they have. They could try to get those rape female condoms that rip the knob off in SA.

**kevind53** · 07-30-2006, 03:24 PM

**A_C** · 07-30-2006, 03:27 PM

South Africa is a pretty hardcore place...Compton fools would easily get smoked out there, i'd personally be very careful...

**Thy_Kingdom** · 07-30-2006, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by Mikey1

two 22 year old girls are never safe when away from home

Bump this.

What's with everyone here saying SA isn't safe? Sure it has high crime rates and everything but if she's staying at a gated compound and working in a professional medium-high security then she has nothing to worry about. In fact, her biggest fear should be the lions going ape**** on her like they did with roy.

**subzero789** · 07-30-2006, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by Sol_krym

Bump this.

What's with everyone here saying SA isn't safe? Sure it has high crime rates and everything but if she's staying at a gated compound and working in a professional medium-high security then she has nothing to worry about. In fact, her biggest fear should be the lions going ape**** on her like they did with roy.

I'm not worried about her IN the compound im worried about her leaving the compound. They are obviously not going to just sit in the compound for a month theyr probably going tro leave every once in a while.

**InvidGurab** · 07-30-2006, 03:48 PM

Is it safe? Well let's break this down; Young niave white women who are going into a foreign land strife with civil wars in multiple regions; wild animals that have been known to be man eaters if not just man killers; the area is ripe with disease and very poor water management with dysentary, AIDS, ebola, and various other life taking micro-organisms abound; young men who carry weapons like they're condoms in a wallet; our gov't cannot guarantee anyone's safety there and have released documents in the past stating so.

All in all they will be alright in my opinion if you pray and do not touch yourself at night

Just joking but who knows what goes on over in any third world nation.

**Thy_Kingdom** · 07-30-2006, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by subzero789

I'm not worried about her IN the compound im worried about her leaving the compound. They are obviously not going to just sit in the compound for a month theyr probably going tro leave every once in a while.

Find out if they can have an armed escort. Seems like the best bet. Btw much of this thread is peoples ignorance of a land they know very little about. Tell her to research the area she's going to, what services are available, talk to others who've been/worked there, etc.

**Axex** · 07-30-2006, 04:01 PM

Is it safe lol.

**tpt** · 07-30-2006, 04:06 PM

Since ive been to South Africa 3 times (Cape town, Johannesburg and Durban). I can say that you will be safe AS LONG AS you stay street smart. eg walking or driving alone at night,

Since she wont be staying in Urban Africa then i guess she will be safe.

**tpt** · 07-30-2006, 04:13 PM

If she is staying in the urban cities of Africa then here is some advice

Youth from the poor areas panhandle. Don't pull out your wallet. If you wish, give them food instead of money.

I WILL SAY IT AGAIN. NEVER NEVER NEVER SHOW THAT YOU HAVE MONEY IN YOUR POCKET WHEN YOU ARE IN URBAN AFRICA

Use "Mr. Delivery" rather than be out after dark getting dinner.

Do not wear jewelry or expensive watches

Ride the Baz Bus if you are staying at hostels. It will deliver you to the door.

Have a friend watch your back if you get money from the ATM machine.

if wanting to go to Johannesburg in South Africa many travelers stay in Pretoria( a close by city) rather than Johannesburg.

Remove all signs of being an foreign tourist: camera, fanny pack, baseball hat. Adapt to fashions there. Try to tone down your foreign accent.

taking an evening stroll, or walking to venues after dark can be very risky

In the animal areas of Africa the hippos and crocs are real dangers. Though pudgy, hippos are the most dangerous animal in Africa. After sunset they come out of the lagoon to forage up to 20 miles away. Hunker down inside at sunset. Don't dangle your legs over the edge of the boat and have a croc drag you under. Respect crocodile warning signs.

use mosquito repellent with DEET concentration greater than 50%;
cover your skin with long-sleeved clothing, especially around evening
using mosquito nets while sleeping.

Municipal water is mostly safe to drink throughout the country, although a strong risk of bilharzia exists for stillstanding water.

**timevalue** · 07-30-2006, 04:18 PM

no worries when they shoot like this

http://www.hellinahandbasket.net/archives/002718.html

Just make sure you are in their line of sight whereas if you are out of the way you are more likely to get shot.

**timevalue** · 07-30-2006, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by tpt

... fanny pack b...

Interesting you say that. ive thought a fanny pack would be good because if you are running it would be less likely to fall out like it would a pants pocket.

**Axex** · 07-30-2006, 04:23 PM

try and tame these animals first.

**tpt** · 07-30-2006, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by timevalue

Interesting you say that. ive thought a fanny pack would be good because if you are running it would be less likely to fall out like it would a pants pocket.

A fanny back would be more visible. It would be so obvious that you have something inside.

**vcmethod** · 07-30-2006, 04:27 PM

she may have the time of her life, then again she may be kidnapped by guerilla fighters and held for ransom

(my sister travelled southern asia for 6 months when she was 19 and was perfectly fine)

rule #1 is don't travel areas in conflict (i dont know if SA is in conflict currently)

tell her to take care of dingos and marsupials in australia or something..

**tpt** · 07-30-2006, 04:27 PM

The pictures that were just posted ARE NOT in South Africa. They are in Liberia which is in conflict right now. I hate when people think all of Africa is the same.

South Africa is NOT in any war. People please. If you have not been to South Africa then please dont reply with pictures from other different countries. Actually dont reply at all.

**tpt** · 07-30-2006, 04:30 PM

Here is some slang from South Africa

lekker - Enjoyable
howzit - How is it ?
yebo - Yes
boet, bru, china or ou - Brother or man
koppie - A small hill
Madiba - Nelson Mandela
robot - Traffic light
tannie - Respectful term for an older woman
tinkle - phone call
boot - trunk of a car
just now - sometime soon
now now - sooner than just now!
braai - barbecue.
cheers - we use this for saying good-bye, as well as saying thank you and for the occasional toast.
lift - elevator
lorry - truck

**Axex** · 07-30-2006, 04:31 PM

lol

**Cheetah** · 07-30-2006, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by Axex

Is it safe lol.

I've seen worse

**Leper Messiah** · 07-30-2006, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by tpt

If she is staying in the urban cities of Africa then here is some advice

Youth from the poor areas panhandle. Don't pull out your wallet. If you wish, give them food instead of money.

I WILL SAY IT AGAIN. NEVER NEVER NEVER SHOW THAT YOU HAVE MONEY IN YOUR POCKET WHEN YOU ARE IN URBAN AFRICA

Use "Mr. Delivery" rather than be out after dark getting dinner.

Do not wear jewelry or expensive watches

Ride the Baz Bus if you are staying at hostels. It will deliver you to the door.

Have a friend watch your back if you get money from the ATM machine.

if wanting to go to Johannesburg in South Africa many travelers stay in Pretoria( a close by city) rather than Johannesburg.

Remove all signs of being an foreign tourist: camera, fanny pack, baseball hat. Adapt to fashions there. Try to tone down your foreign accent.

taking an evening stroll, or walking to venues after dark can be very risky

In the animal areas of Africa the hippos and crocs are real dangers. Though pudgy, hippos are the most dangerous animal in Africa. After sunset they come out of the lagoon to forage up to 20 miles away. Hunker down inside at sunset. Don't dangle your legs over the edge of the boat and have a croc drag you under. Respect crocodile warning signs.

use mosquito repellent with DEET concentration greater than 50%;
cover your skin with long-sleeved clothing, especially around evening
using mosquito nets while sleeping.

Municipal water is mostly safe to drink throughout the country, although a strong risk of bilharzia exists for stillstanding water.

Wow Strong Advice.

Boody ignorant people dont even know if South Africa is in conflict?

I've said it before, many Americans i haev dealt with know very little about other cultures and nations. When i lived in texas i was asked if i lived in a tee-pee because i was Australian.

**Axex** · 07-30-2006, 04:33 PM

hhahaha reps

**Thy_Kingdom** · 07-30-2006, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by tpt

The pictures that were just posted ARE NOT in South Africa. They are in Liberia which is in conflict right now. I hate when people think all of Africa is the same.

South Africa is NOT in any war. People please. If you have not been to South Africa then please dont reply with pictures from other different countries. Actually dont reply at all.

Unfortunately, many idiots here will see the pics just posted(with the Liberian flag in one) and they'll think every single part of Africa is in a constant state of anarchy. These same idiots generally label all of Africa as just 'one big country'.

**timevalue** · 07-30-2006, 04:45 PM

The best one is the bring your buddys stance.

Is it true kaffir=n!gger in south africa? like they call the Afrikaans "kaffir kickers". sorry for any offence.

**tpt** · 07-30-2006, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by timevalue

The best one is the bring your buddys stance.

Is it true kaffir=n!gger in south africa? like they call the Afrikaans "kaffir kickers". sorry for any offence.

Yes kaffir is an offensive word in South Africa.

In South Africa. Coloured is not an offesensive word but it doesnt mean black. It means people of mixed race and ancestry. Call black people black and white people white and Indian South Africans Indian.

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