Both states that we need 1g of protein per lean mass, and also be in a deficit.
Assuming that my workout stayed the same, calorie deficit stayed the same.
Which is better OVERALL in terms of fat-loss, fat-loss speed, muscle retention?
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Thread: Lose fat for noobs Vs Keto
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11-05-2009, 05:21 AM #1
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11-05-2009, 05:35 AM #2
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11-05-2009, 05:48 AM #4
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Do you wanna eat normal or eat fat and protien?
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11-05-2009, 09:59 AM #5
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I think the best choice is the one you can stick to the longest and be most consistent on. In the last month, I've tried a 40/40/20 diet and I'm currently on Keto. Even though my cals were exactly the same on each diet, I'm finding Keto much easier to stick to. I feel satisfied all day long and I'm not having any cravings. When I was eating low fat I felt like I was always hungry and I actually had some un-planned cheats while I was doing that.
One easy thing is to try them both for a few weeks and see which one works best. Remember, this is a lifestyle change, not a temporary diet. Marathon, not a sprint. Etc.
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11-05-2009, 10:02 AM #6
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05-03-2011, 11:12 AM #8
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05-03-2011, 11:23 AM #9
First off, the only thing i'd change on the "fat loss for noobs" thread is the 1g per lbm. It is highly recommended by several PHD bbers (i.e. read layne nortons faq) to eat at least 1.2g per lbm or even more because it becomes that much more important on a cut.
Also, to answer the OP's question, the main goal should never be fat loss speed. Its definitely muscle retention. Lack of patience can only increase the possibilty for unecessary muscle loss.
Finally, as a guy who did keto last year towards the end of my first real cut, I can verify that it's great for weight loss. Unfortunately, I lost more muscle than I had to as well so I am much happier with my current carb-cycle diet.Start (fat guy):May 31 2009 - 205lbs ~34%bf
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05-03-2011, 11:26 AM #10
Deficit is a deficit for weight loss. However, be careful with keto and muscle retention. Carbs are protein/muscle sparing so you can't avoid them all together and expect to keep the same amount of muscle.
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/nut...-you-need.htmlMy Reverse Diet Log
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=153750981&p=1077733831#post1077733831
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10-31-2012, 06:55 PM #11
I've tried a keto diet while cutting and I think it's a great way to change things up. I was tired of brown rice and all of the other "clean" foods so I absolutely loved bacon and eggs for breakfast every day. Of course both times I was still in a caloric deficit.
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