Can anyone provide a logically sound argument as to why homosexuality is "wrong"?

**GrokTheCube** · 11-02-2009, 09:26 PM

I will start out by saying "because my holy book says so" is not a logically sound argument.

I have seen many people say that they feel homosexuality is "just wrong", but have never heard any present a logically sound explanation.

In my opinion, homosexuality is not wrong, because it hurts no one, and has no negative impact on anyone other than any impact resulting from discrimination.

I'm curious to hear what people have to say.

**otisthebat** · 11-02-2009, 09:42 PM

it's wrong because their religion says so, and because they feel their religious beliefs should be pushed on other people who dont share them. freedom of religion doesnt mean anything to those people.

**An hero** · 11-02-2009, 09:44 PM

in before unnatural

**otisthebat** · 11-02-2009, 09:46 PM

in before humans are not animals so the argument that dogs/cats/etc. perform homosexual acts is invalid.

**GrokTheCube** · 11-02-2009, 09:50 PM

In before "appeal to nature" is considered a formal fallacy.

**Whoda** · 11-02-2009, 09:51 PM

To the first couple posters, Can you provide a logically sound argument as to why beastiality is wrong?

**otisthebat** · 11-02-2009, 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by Whoda

To the first couple posters, Can you provide a logically sound argument as to why beastiality is wrong?

cruelty to animals? contracting diseases?

**Shizzles** · 11-02-2009, 09:53 PM

I personally have no real problem with homosexuality. What people choose to do with their life is up to them and no one should force them otherwise (unless there is a negative impact on others). I will be honest in saying the sexual acts (excluding most females) of homosexuality disgust me, and this is where most people choose to stand against it.

I do not think homosexuality should be taught in schools or in some way presented to young minds. Some of you may say "Why does it matter? A truly straight kid will never turn gay." Well this is partially true, but young children are highly impressionable, and as you can see with religion, can have their minds warped (No offense to religious people).

**Whoda** · 11-02-2009, 09:55 PM

Originally Posted by otisthebat

cruelty to animals? contracting diseases?

How is it cruel if they love eachother? Homosexuals contract diseases too

**Harbinger** · 11-02-2009, 09:58 PM

**Harbinger** · 11-02-2009, 10:02 PM

Originally Posted by Whoda

How is it cruel if they love eachother? Homosexuals contract diseases too

Would you care to answer the question?

**GrokTheCube** · 11-02-2009, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by Whoda

To the first couple posters, Can you provide a logically sound argument as to why beastiality is wrong?

That is not the subject of this thread.

If you'd like to make one, and state your belief as to why you believe bestiality is right, I will certainly post why I think it's wrong. I'm not sure what your argument is for it being ok, but I look forward to seeing it!

If that is some sort of slippery slope argument, that is also considered a fallacy, thus making the argument NOT logically sound.

**otisthebat** · 11-02-2009, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by Whoda

How is it cruel if they love eachother? Homosexuals contract diseases too

if you find out a way to determine whether an animal is giving consent, make it public.

and homosexuals contract the same diseases that heteros can get. cross species diseases could be a serious problem.

**Whoda** · 11-02-2009, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by Harbinger

Would you care to answer the question?

Point is, there is no logical arguments. Most people have "logical" reasons, which arnt logical at all. Its all about morals.

**Harbinger** · 11-02-2009, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by Whoda

To the first couple posters, Can you provide a logically sound argument as to why beastiality is wrong?

The beast can't give consent!

**GrokTheCube** · 11-02-2009, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by Whoda

Point is, there is no logical arguments. Most people have "logical" reasons, which arnt logical at all. Its all about morals.

So then you agree that homosexuality is not wrong?

**AKR** · 11-02-2009, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by Whoda

To the first couple posters, Can you provide a logically sound argument as to why beastiality is wrong?

If he couldn't, how would this prove gay sex wrong? Your failure to reply on topic shows that you have no logical reason - only your Bible.

**Whoda** · 11-02-2009, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by otisthebat

if you find out a way to determine whether an animal is giving consent, make it public.

and homosexuals contract the same diseases that heteros can get. cross species diseases could be a serious problem.

FOr consent, ill have my dog bark.

They do contract the same disease. But the HIV/AIDS is WAAAYY more prevelant in the homosexual community.

As for the cross species diseases, it might, or might not be. But thats not for the court to discriminate against somebody for their personal preference, as such with homosexuals, right?

**Whoda** · 11-02-2009, 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by AKR

If he couldn't, how would this prove gay sex wrong? Your failure to reply on topic shows that you have no logical reason - only your Bible.

So you think beastiality is alright?

**Whoda** · 11-02-2009, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by GrokTheCube

So then you agree that homosexuality is not wrong?

No, its against my morals

**AKR** · 11-02-2009, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by Whoda

FOr consent, ill have my dog bark.

They do contract the same disease. But the HIV/AIDS is WAAAYY more prevelant in the homosexual community.

As for the cross species diseases, it might, or might not be. But thats not for the court to discriminate against somebody for their personal preference, as such with homosexuals, right?

Dogs can't give consent anymore than children can. They aren't able to comprehend the consequences. Now get on topic and stop trolling.

Originally Posted by Whoda

So you think beastiality is alright?

Do you think having sex with children is alright if they say yes? What does this have to do with the thread?

**otisthebat** · 11-02-2009, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by Whoda

FOr consent, ill have my dog bark.

and how will he know that barking means giving consent? there isnt a way. your logic is failtastic.

**litle_dan** · 11-02-2009, 10:11 PM

god made adam and eve.
opposites attract. + to -
male to female = babies.
plug to socket = power
front hole to penor = perfect fit
say mommy and daddy... sounds rite... now say daddy and daddy.. wtf?
need i say more?

**Whoda** · 11-02-2009, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by GrokTheCube

That is not the subject of this thread.

If you'd like to make one, and state your belief as to why you believe bestiality is right, I will certainly post why I think it's wrong. I'm not sure what your argument is for it being ok, but I look forward to seeing it!

If that is some sort of slippery slope argument, that is also considered a fallacy, thus making the argument NOT logically sound.

You think its wrong. Give me a logical reason why? Other species with similar DNA can cross breed. Why cant humans and say primates(lol) cross breed

**otisthebat** · 11-02-2009, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by litle_dan

god made adam and eve.
opposites attract. + to -
male to female = babies.
plug to socket = power
front hole to penor = perfect fit
say mommy and daddy... sounds rite... now say daddy and daddy.. wtf?
need i say more?

what about the people that dont believe any of that happened?

**Whoda** · 11-02-2009, 10:14 PM

Originally Posted by AKR

Dogs can't give consent anymore than children can. They aren't able to comprehend the consequences. Now get on topic and stop trolling. ?

Children can give consent. Have you ever watched TO Catch a Predator? People go to prison all the time because of ********.

Originally Posted by AKR

Do you think having sex with children is alright if they say yes? What does this have to do with the thread?

no, its against my morals.

**otisthebat** · 11-02-2009, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by Whoda

You think its wrong. Give me a logical reason why? Other species with similar DNA can cross breed. Why cant humans and say primates(lol) cross breed

stop trolling this thread with your nonsense. keep it up and negs will be given.

**Whoda** · 11-02-2009, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by otisthebat

and how will he know that barking means giving consent? there isnt a way. your logic is failtastic.

Primates are pretty smart. They dont have the capability to speak, but they are definitely trainable to make it appear consent is given.

Point is, there is no logical argument against Beastiality or Homosexuality. Its ALL MORALS.
I repeat, ITS ALL MORALS. (some of you cant seem to get that)

**Whoda** · 11-02-2009, 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by otisthebat

stop trolling this thread with your nonsense. keep it up and negs will be given.

U mad im bringing the homosexuality into context?

Your losing the argument so your going to hand out a neg...typical

**AKR** · 11-02-2009, 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by litle_dan

god made adam and eve.

We said logically sound arguments, not fairytale arguments.

opposites attract. + to -

Males and females are not pluses and minuses. Obviously they aren't because males are sometimes attracted to males and vice versa. That goes for humans and hundreds of other species.

male to female = babies.

Not always. Why should they?

plug to socket = power

WTF? Again, doesn't make sense. They aren't power chords and outlets.

front hole to penor = perfect fit

Not really. Sometimes they are too tight or too loose of a fit. How do you feel about oral sex between male and female? If you're ok with that, why not with male on male/female on female? What does this all have to do with morality, anyway? I don't know how two body parts "fitting" makes something morally correct.

say mommy and daddy... sounds rite... now say daddy and daddy.. wtf?
need i say more?

Yeah you do. You arguments are nonsensical and poorly thought out.

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