why do nutritionists think protein is almost useless? Maybe it is!!??

[dun chavez]

We all need some protein, but why do we all think we need 200-300 grams a day?? Every nutrionist i have talked to, lols at the bodybuilding theory of eating protein.

[exy]

But then again, every nutritionist I have talked to has 10 inch arms.

[CTpump]

Or they have big heads

[duskt3]

Originally Posted by exy

But then again, every nutritionist I have talked to has 10 inch arms.

this is very true

[Arlecchino]

Most nutritionists are taught to spout the RDA like it is a mantra, and are therefore useless to any sort of athlete.

Except possibly as dinner, but I never met one that looked like they would be worth the effort to clean and cook.

[mr. strength]

who in the world are these nutritionists that you are talking to?

[marelic]

they be trying to ripp u off?

na i think its becasue all the empircal data they base ther claims on comes from an average 5'8 70kg person, who doesnt eat 6 meals a day etc

[pyro1284]

Originally Posted by exy

But then again, every nutritionist I have talked to has 10 inch arms.

^^^^^^

[Ek2]

lol honestly, I look at what the people I want to look like do or hold true to, and do my best to replicate it on my own level.

... Eat big, eat lots of protein, and you grow. If you don't think it's true and it's a third variable and something else causes the growth, ****it, maybe it does. But if ronnie coleman eats lots of protein and trains hard at his size, people should emulate that if they want to progress in a similar fashion.

[The_Reaper]

It mildly perturbs me that there is such a lack of consensus in the nutrition world.


Imo, we probably don't need as much protein as we generally are led to think.

[IronLyfe]

well if your bulking 1 gram per lb of bw is more than enough.

[turtlefewl]

they say ~60g protein a day.



I say listen to the guy who has 22" inch arms, not 12".

[Queequeg]

Originally Posted by Arlecchino

Most nutritionists are taught to spout the RDA like it is a mantra, and are therefore useless to any sort of athlete.

Except possibly as dinner, but I never met one that looked like they would be worth the effort to clean and cook.

this, they are not educated in sports nutrition and need to get with the program

[blindside]

lol @ nutritionists...

I'd much rather take advice from someone who has more muscle mass than I do, versus that small frail middle-aged woman who touts herself as a nutritionist. YA DIG?

[andt]

on one side you have nutritionists claiming that under normal circumstances the human body cannot synthesize more than 30g of protein per day, and that the rest is used as energy

on the other side you have professional bodybuilders claiming you need 200-300g of protein or more per day or you're losing potential muscle growth

one side is trying to sell you on the RDA values and government approved eating plans

the other side is trying to sell you on protein supplements sold by the supp companies that sponsor them

obviously neither side is 100% correct, and until there is some kind of massive long term medical research done to prove it one way or the other, the best you can do is see how your body responds to specific changes in your diet

my 2 cents

[IronLyfe]

Originally Posted by andt

on one side you have nutritionists claiming that under normal circumstances the human body cannot synthesize more than 30g of protein per day, and that the rest is used as energy

on the other side you have professional bodybuilders claiming you need 200-300g of protein or more per day or you're losing potential muscle growth

one side is trying to sell you on the RDA values and government approved eating plans

the other side is trying to sell you on protein supplements sold by the supp companies that sponsor them

obviously neither side is 100% correct, and until there is some kind of massive long term medical research done to prove it one way or the other, the best you can do is see how your body responds to specific changes in your diet

my 2 cents

makes me rage we could be getting owned for buying to much protein or owned for buying to little.

[SnatchGrabber]

Originally Posted by IronLyfe

well if your bulking 1 gram per lb of bw is more than enough.

Originally Posted by turtlefewl

they say ~60g protein a day.



I say listen to the guy who has 22" inch arms, not 12".

I've been taught humans need 0.6grams per pound daily.

[IronLyfe]

Originally Posted by SnatchGrabber

I've been taught humans need 0.6grams per pound daily.

yeah but for people who are bulking the rest would just be carbs and healthy fats which would just make you fat. Also on a cut whose gonna eat that less protein, would have to make the rest of calories from fats/carbs and thats not what you want on a proper cut.

[J-Bol]

Originally Posted by The_Reaper

It mildly perturbs me that there is such a lack of consensus in the nutrition world.


Imo, we probably don't need as much protein as we generally are led to think.

I agree with this. We don't need nearly the protein the bb community says we do. What is a better way for a protein company, advertised in all muscle mags, to get sales than to preach 1-2g protein per lb of body weight. I maybe take in 180-200g/day. And that's being generous. It's more likely along 150g. Even Nasser didn't take in nearly close to what most people in bbing thinks he should have. The average American takes in enough protein daily to fuel an Olympic athlete.

[Anubis18]

Unless you're on gear you probably don't need more than 1g per lb, probably less.

[Poppy83]

I don't worry about measuring my protein intake. I take in protein until my farts are sour and then I put in a little more just in case I lost some protein through my farts.

[636 HunteR]

Not this **** again...

We burn $100 bar tabs and other useless **** every weekend. What does it matter if you take in a little extra powder. Better overkill than undercooked.

[chincup]

i thought you need 1 gram of protein for every 1lb i would need 160 grams of protein a day because i weigh 160

[steelmover]

Originally Posted by Poppy83

I don't worry about measuring my protein intake. I take in protein until my farts are sour and then I put in a little more just in case I lost some protein through my farts.

THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ best response so far.

[Jburn]

Cuz they are stupid.

[Excellentswag]

give me a study that says you need more than 1.2-1.8 per KG and ill give you reps for life lol

[muscleman420]

show me one jacked person who believes that. at the bery least more protein= more calories = more growth.

[humblegenius]

Originally Posted by andt

on one side you have nutritionists claiming that under normal circumstances the human body cannot synthesize more than 30g of protein per day, and that the rest is used as energy

on the other side you have professional bodybuilders claiming you need 200-300g of protein or more per day or you're losing potential muscle growth

one side is trying to sell you on the RDA values and government approved eating plans

the other side is trying to sell you on protein supplements sold by the supp companies that sponsor them

obviously neither side is 100% correct, and until there is some kind of massive long term medical research done to prove it one way or the other, the best you can do is see how your body responds to specific changes in your diet

my 2 cents

Best response so far.

Could you imagine the fallout if a couch potato comes in and they tell them to take in 200grams of protein a day. They are already overconsuming calories. Telling them to take in more protein when they have little knowledge of food is just gonna make it worse.

[EctoMan2000]

Aren't there nutritionists that plan diets for athletes which are undoubtedly high in protein? How can they be taught two different things?

[icebreakeribs]

well you gotta get the calories from somewhere. you'd have to bump up the fat and/or carbs to a crazy extent if you're only taking in a minimal amount of protein that is considered necessary for muscle growth. somehow I think if I started having 500+ carbs per day, I'd get even more bloated. if I bumped up the fat, the nutrionists would say I'm having too much saturated fat (since there is usually some saturated fat in most healthy fat foods).