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    Ronnies 1998 Physique @ Mr O.

    IF, He turned up for the next 7 olympias, IDENTICAL to his 98 showing, Would he still have got his 8 Sandows?

    IMO yes!

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    no......... ronnie only won 8 olympias because every year he had to improve to keep beating the likes of jay and levrone ect......you need to improve to keep winning if he would have stayed like he did in 98 imo he wouldnt have won 8 o's.....
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    No...jay would have surpassed for sure
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    lol Yes he could of won 8 more the only reason he almost lost to Levrone in 2002 is b/c he overdieted and lost some of his mass. If I were gonna pick the absolute best Coleman it would be 2000.
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    I'm sorry is there a bodybuilder out there today that I'm unaware about that looks better then this? If so plz inform me.
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    Does anyone have the vid of his 1998 Olympia routine?

    I can't find on youtube.
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    lol of course he still had won 8 times!!!!

    To some guys above: you see the pics. Post pics from any bodybuilder from 1999 to 2005 that looks better than that.

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    Originally Posted by Zeneth View Post
    Does anyone have the vid of his 1998 Olympia routine?

    I can't find on youtube.
    Here is a link from a previous thread with the whole Olympia contests from 1982 to 2008, you can see not only the individual routines, but also the comparisons and you can judge better the placings. It's a good thing to download the videos, you don't meet chances like this one very often.

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    No he wouldnt have carried on winning. Jay would have surpassed him in size within a couple of years. Like one guy said you MUST continue to improve if you want to keep winning.

    But if there is one thing that could have stayed the same its his gut. That was the only unsightly bodypart. The pics of his front double bis at the top show how aesthetic he was early on.
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    No way he would have ever been beaten. Jay might have finally caught him for size but he still wouldn't be close in terms of overall package.
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    Originally Posted by lancs_hotpot View Post
    No he wouldnt have carried on winning. Jay would have surpassed him in size within a couple of years. Like one guy said you MUST continue to improve if you want to keep winning.

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    So you want to post pics from JAy from 1999-2005 as evidence that he could even compare to 1998 Coleman?

    1998 Coleman would also have won in 2006-2009, so basically 1998 Coleman is the best package ever only topped by Ronnie himself in some years...
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    Originally Posted by Reisinger850 View Post
    So you want to post pics from JAy from 1999-2005 as evidence that he could even compare to 1998 Coleman?

    1998 Coleman would also have won in 2006-2009, so basically 1998 Coleman is the best package ever only topped by Ronnie himself in some years...
    Maybe. But i think turning up looking exactly the same for eight years could have a negative effect.
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    Originally Posted by lancs_hotpot View Post
    Maybe. But i think turning up looking exactly the same for eight years could have a negative effect.
    Yes it would be more boring perhaps. But as long as he is clearly the best he would have won.

    And I think 1998 Coleman would win against anybody in a bodybuilding contest except against some other Coleman versions.
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    Maybe. But i think turning up looking exactly the same for eight years could have a negative effect.
    lol thats beyond the point. the point of the thread is that by judging standards, would the 1998 version of ronnie keep winning until 2005. not whether the fans or judges or w/e would end his reign because it was getting boring...
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    Here is a link from a previous thread with the whole Olympia contests from 1982 to 2008, you can see not only the individual routines, but also the comparisons and you can judge better the placings. It's a good thing to download the videos, you don't meet chances like this one very often.

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    i dont think that a 98 ronnie would beat a 2001 jay, ronnie had 3 years of improvment in 2001 and still only just beat jay that year so therefore imo i think 2001 jay beats a 98 coleman........
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    i dont think that a 98 ronnie would beat a 2001 jay, ronnie had 3 years of improvment in 2001 and still only just beat jay that year so therefore imo i think 2001 jay beats a 98 coleman........
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    i dont think that a 98 ronnie would beat a 2001 jay, ronnie had 3 years of improvment in 2001 and still only just beat jay that year so therefore imo i think 2001 jay beats a 98 coleman........
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    he would have won every show till this year and continue to keep winning for the foreseeable future, if he didn't get the fact that he looked the same every year held against him..
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    Pix to prove it, and not the in the gym photos. Stage photos.
    man i dont need pix, like i said its just my opinion if someone else wants to provide pix then feel free, i just think that a 2001 jay would beat a 98 ronnie, its all down to personal opinion thats all, but i do think a 2003 ronnie would beat a 2001 jay and a 98 ronnie, i prefare ronnie with more size ive never been a fan of his 98 shape thats whay i have jay better than a 98 ronnie......
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    Maybe. But i think turning up looking exactly the same for eight years could have a negative effect.
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    Yes it would be more boring perhaps. But as long as he is clearly the best he would have won.

    And I think 1998 Coleman would win against anybody in a bodybuilding contest except against some other Coleman versions.
    yeh, that negative effect has its limits like everything else. if 2 guys are pretty much the same yet one is improving, the other isnt, the improving one will be favored. That ROnnie package is so far ahead that he wouldnt have this problem. only cutler 09 would have troubled him.
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    Backstage shot of Ronnie in 98

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    It's crazy how much he dominates Flex and Ray right there. That's not just two forgettable pros, that's two legends who have racked up a bunch of wins between each other. It's crazy how much Ronnie Coleman blows them away.

    Ronnie Coleman in his prime is better than anyone currently competing. It's going to probably take another ten years before anyone is that dominant again.
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    i dont think that a 98 ronnie would beat a 2001 jay, ronnie had 3 years of improvment in 2001 and still only just beat jay that year so therefore imo i think 2001 jay beats a 98 coleman........
    Except Ronnies conditioning in 2001 wasnt up to par of a 1998 Ronnie. Thats why he almost lost to Jay.
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    I would be gutted to be shawn or flex standing next to coleman. Because this isnt me going over the top, but he actually makes them both look quite under developed, and well, sh*t.
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