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My Failure; My Strength
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is it just me, or is the notion of an "afterlife" the most ridiculous thing?
am i alone?
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11-01-2009, 10:07 PM
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This has never been done before. Cant wait to read the replies, great new topic.
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11-01-2009, 10:10 PM
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Most rediculous.. probably not. Quite unbelievable, yes.
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11-01-2009, 10:17 PM
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In an infinite Universe, anything is possible.
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11-01-2009, 10:18 PM
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My Failure; My Strength
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Originally Posted by Josho0909
This has never been done before. Cant wait to read the replies, great new topic.
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lulz my bad
and also, i'm not saying that it's inconceivable. i concede that it's a definite possibility. but just the thought that death (which by it's definition is the end of life) should spring our REAL life is just so wishful. makes me laugh. it kind of makes me sad too though because i know how painful the notion of death is, people really do need some comforting mechanism to get over it. meh
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We, privileged few, who won the lottery of birth against all odds, how dare we whine at our inevitable return to that prior state for which the vast majority have never stirred.
- Dawkins
Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who has said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.
- Buddha
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11-01-2009, 10:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SDMuscleBuddy
In an infinite Universe, anything is possible.
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No, it isn't. For example, it is not possible to exceed the speed of light.
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11-01-2009, 10:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SDMuscleBuddy
In an infinite Universe, anything is possible.
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Well, technically that only works (scientifically) if you have infinite time.... from what we know so far, that does not seem the case.
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What the superior man seeks is in himself; what the small man seeks is in others. - Confucius
Don't get set into one form, adapt it and build your own, and let it grow, be like water. Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless, like water. Now you put water in a cup, it becomes the cup; You put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle; You put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend. - Bruce Lee
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11-01-2009, 10:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thepointman
No, it isn't. For example, it is not possible to exceed the speed of light.
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you're clearly a physicist
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11-01-2009, 10:41 PM
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I reckon the world is flat and a bit rugged in places. That's all I be seein' even from the high hills.
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11-01-2009, 10:44 PM
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ITT, we pretend to know what we're talking about
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11-01-2009, 10:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by An hero
you're clearly a physicist
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faster-than-light
Aren't we all?
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11-01-2009, 10:47 PM
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My Failure; My Strength
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MindFree
I reckon the world is flat and a bit rugged in places. That's all I be seein' even from the high hills.
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oh so because there is a possibility of life after death, we should presuppose that there is regardless of reason and logic? cool
i has teh invisible soulz that dint exist before i born, but now that i born i cant imagine myself not liveing, so i is guna liv forever cuz my soulz is immortal.. STRONG logic
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We, privileged few, who won the lottery of birth against all odds, how dare we whine at our inevitable return to that prior state for which the vast majority have never stirred.
- Dawkins
Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who has said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.
- Buddha
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11-01-2009, 10:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rune
Well, technically that only works (scientifically) if you have infinite time.... from what we know so far, that does not seem the case.
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No, it doesn't even work then. Take the set of even numbers -- 2, 4, 6, 8... -- an infinite set. Count for all of time (infinite time) and you'll never see an odd number. There's nothing that says everything has to happen.
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Originally Posted by An hero
you're clearly a physicist
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I was a physics major, but I'm not a physicist.
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11-01-2009, 10:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shadowwalker021
oh so because there is a possibility of life after death, we should presuppose that there is regardless of reason and logic? cool
i has teh invisible soulz that dint exist before i born, but now that i born i cant imagine myself not liveing, so i is guna liv forever cuz my soulz is immortal.. STRONG logic
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I be defining what is for sure there or not by my experiences and proof.
So I reckon the sun revolve around the earth, I do.
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11-01-2009, 10:52 PM
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My Failure; My Strength
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MindFree
I be defining what is for sure there or not by my experiences and proof.
So I reckon the sun revolve around the earth, I do.
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oh i thought your off topic statement had an allegorical point, i guess not. carry on good sir.
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We, privileged few, who won the lottery of birth against all odds, how dare we whine at our inevitable return to that prior state for which the vast majority have never stirred.
- Dawkins
Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who has said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.
- Buddha
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11-01-2009, 10:54 PM
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Quality debate gentleman. Keep it up and this will be quoted word-for-word in a graduate level textbook someday.
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11-01-2009, 10:56 PM
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Quality debate gentleman. Keep it up and this will be quoted word-for-word in a graduate level textbook someday.
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excellent contribution
edit: i lold at this comment though 
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We, privileged few, who won the lottery of birth against all odds, how dare we whine at our inevitable return to that prior state for which the vast majority have never stirred.
- Dawkins
Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who has said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.
- Buddha
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11-02-2009, 12:30 AM
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the existence of the afterlife IMO is without a doubt. However that being said I wish the afterlife didn't exist. Why???? because that just complicates everything, you can never truly end or escape anything. I'd rather have a finality to things. Over and out is easier concept.
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11-02-2009, 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by zenzone
the existence of the afterlife IMO is without a doubt. However that being said I wish the afterlife didn't exist. Why???? because that just complicates everything, you can never truly end or escape anything. I'd rather have a finality to things. Over and out is easier concept.
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why?
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We, privileged few, who won the lottery of birth against all odds, how dare we whine at our inevitable return to that prior state for which the vast majority have never stirred.
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Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who has said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.
- Buddha
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11-02-2009, 12:44 AM
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Yea, it's pretty retarded.
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11-02-2009, 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by thepointman
No, it isn't. For example, it is not possible to exceed the speed of light.
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When was the last time somebody tried?
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11-02-2009, 12:52 AM
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shadow, I don't think it was in this thread, but in another thread you posted how cruel it was to sentence humans to a horrendous torment of eternal fire, in which I partially agree. You see, between Jewish/Catholic/Eastern Orthodox traditions the answer lies.
The Jews believed that hell (Gehenna) was a place where everyone, except only the most holy people, went. However, only the most wicked and evil remained there forever. The rest of them were purified in no longer than 12 months.
Catholicism
The Catechism of the Catholic Church defines purgatory as a "purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven," which is experienced by those "who die in God?s grace and friendship, but still imperfectly purified" (CCC 1030). It notes that "this final purification of the elect . . . is entirely different from the punishment of the damned" (CCC 1031).
Eastern Orthodox theology does not generally describe the situation of the dead as involving suffering or fire, although it nevertheless describes it as a "direful condition".[52] The souls of the righteous dead are in light and rest, with a foretaste of eternal happiness; but the souls of the wicked are in a state the reverse of this. Among the latter, such souls as have departed with faith, but "without having had time to bring forth fruits worthy of repentance. Thus, the Eastern Orthodox church believes that at some indefinite time, all souls will be made one with God.
WIKI
Pretty off topic, but it's late, and I thought it was interesting.
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11-02-2009, 12:56 AM
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When was the last time somebody tried?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faster-than-light
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11-02-2009, 12:59 AM
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why?
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lets just say my personal experiences and digging for the truth has left me 100% certain of the afterlife (good or bad). This is not a religious statement, it's just my belief. I'll just leave it at that. However since i offer no 'proof' you may take this post and throw it over your shoulder like a grain of salt.
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11-02-2009, 01:11 AM
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its just you
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A world made of stone
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Save this fairyland we live in.....
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11-02-2009, 05:47 AM
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There must be a good few trillion ants in the afterlife.
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11-02-2009, 06:02 AM
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If you consider some of the other crap religion has come up with, the afterlife is not the most ridiculous.
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11-02-2009, 06:25 AM
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It's absurdly stupid wishful thinking.
There is NO afterlife, you sad fuks.
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A human lifespan is less than a thousand months long. You need to make some time to think how to live it.
To avoid criticism, do nothing, say nothing, be nothing.
Don't believe everything you think.
Life passes most people by while they're making grand plans for it.
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11-02-2009, 06:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zenzone
lets just say my personal experiences and digging for the truth has left me 100% certain of the afterlife (good or bad). This is not a religious statement, it's just my belief. I'll just leave it at that. However since i offer no 'proof' you may take this post and throw it over your shoulder like a grain of salt.
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You're a deluded idiot.
When the brain dies, you die. Just like when your pet dog dies, and when a monkey dies, and when a worm dies.
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"And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music." - Friedrich Nietzsche
A human lifespan is less than a thousand months long. You need to make some time to think how to live it.
To avoid criticism, do nothing, say nothing, be nothing.
Don't believe everything you think.
Life passes most people by while they're making grand plans for it.
I am #4 of the Circle of Twelve
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11-02-2009, 07:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zenzone
lets just say my personal experiences and digging for the truth has left me 100% certain of the afterlife (good or bad). This is not a religious statement, it's just my belief. I'll just leave it at that. However since i offer no 'proof' you may take this post and throw it over your shoulder like a grain of salt.
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