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Ruger LCP dependability
Im in the market for a pocket gun, and none of that revolver bull****. It has to be flat, small, light. If taurus would come out with their TCP, I would consider it but the ruger seems like the only option.
How is the dependability from those who have used / carry it? Internet reports? Problems?
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i have shot a magazine through one. its about what you would expect from a gun its size etc. trigger is lousy (long and heavy). but with no external safety that is a must. i liked it quite a bit, and am considering buying one later.
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11-01-2009, 07:25 PM
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Ive shot 50 rounds or so no problem out of mine. No problems.
Its jsut so miserable to shoot because how small it is. Definetly not a range gun.
kick ass for front pocket carry tho.
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11-01-2009, 08:36 PM
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I've put about 100 rounds though mine.
Had 1 fail to feed with Golden Sabers but it shot about 80 FMJ just fine. Its a dream to carry.
Not that comfortable to shoot but it ain't that bad. I tried one out and shot about 10 rounds from someone else's at the range. Recoil seemed real severe but I had never shot a little gun like that and am new to shooting in general.
I ended up buying one shortly thereafter because I knew how easy it would be to carry, and having only shot any LCP two times now the recoil seemed much more manageable, just from knowing what to expect.
I also had a problem with mine out of the box (fissure in the slide) but got a new slide and Ruger was real easy to deal with. I hope it proves reliable in the long term.
The bluing does not impress me, but maybe I'm biased because my other firearm is a Glock.
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my grandfather owns one of these and he has said the same thing about the trigger being lousy...
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11-02-2009, 03:06 PM
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Quote:
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Im in the market for a pocket gun, and none of that revolver bull****.
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OK have a look at the S&W 642 or the Ruger LCR. Theres definately no bull**** with those.
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11-02-2009, 03:08 PM
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Ruger anything will be a badass gun. Remarkable products IMO
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11-03-2009, 03:41 AM
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Quote:
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my grandfather owns one of these and he has said the same thing about the trigger being lousy...
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In this type of gun, the trigger has to be lousy. Its lousy by design. Its a pocket gun with no manual safeties.
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11-03-2009, 07:36 AM
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Everything that needs to be said, has already been said. Long heavy pull on the trigger....which is actually a good thing; not a range gun; BUT a dream to CCW. It has become my primary carry of my G23 and G27
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11-04-2009, 06:47 PM
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Take a look at Kel Tec's P3AT, it also shoots a .380 round like the Ruger LCP but I feel that this pistol is far superior to te Ruger.
Customer service from Kel Tec is amazing. My buddy sent his p3at in for a different color frame and got it back within the week.
I have put roughly 500 rounds through mine and had zero FTFs, and it is an accurate gun for its stats.
I shoot Critical Defense ammo out of it from time to time to make sure it fires well and it has never had any problems. The damn belt clip holster is hard as fuk to get on though, but I also didnt have a punch.
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11-04-2009, 06:59 PM
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Take a look at Kel Tec's P3AT, it also shoots a .380 round like the Ruger LCP but I feel that this pistol is far superior to te Ruger.
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reasons?
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11-04-2009, 08:45 PM
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have you shot a LCP
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11-04-2009, 10:52 PM
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getting a different colored frame? and that it functions?
cool story bro.
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getting a different colored frame? and that it functions?
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Ruger as a company is a piece of sh it right now. Their newest auto pistol had a full recall because of discharging when dropped. No thanks. Ill take a kel tec that wont kill my neighbor when I drop it.
The ruger LCP is a copy of the kel tec and everyone knows that copies are never as good. It may look more sexy but I would (and do daily) trust my life to the kel tec.
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Yes. The kel tec is better.
I shoot 6 round groups at 25 meters that are under 3.5inches with the P3AT. The LCP wasnt as accurate imho.
But the reason why there is more than one gun manufacturer is becuase people have different opinions, I have only been voicing mine.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Penz0rman
Ruger as a company is a piece of sh it right now. Their newest auto pistol had a full recall because of discharging when dropped. No thanks. Ill take a kel tec that wont kill my neighbor when I drop it.
The ruger LCP is a copy of the kel tec and everyone knows that copies are never as good. It may look more sexy but I would (and do daily) trust my life to the kel tec.
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In fairness to Ruger, I did read an article (wish I could find it now) that stated that it the LCP "could" go off when dropped......it also stated in the article that this was from a 25 foot drop. Thus the recall, and fixing. NOT ALL LCP'S WOULD GO OFF WHEN DROPPED FROM 25 ft.
LCP has a higher quality finish, and the slide locks open for cleaning and what-not.
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So I take it the reliability issues have been fixed. I know its not going to be pleasant to shoot, but I want the maxmimum concealability. The LCP is perfect for what I will use it for. A local shop has them for $300...not sure if I want to shop around more or what though.
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11-06-2009, 11:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Penz0rman
Ruger as a company is a piece of sh it right now. Their newest auto pistol had a full recall because of discharging when dropped. No thanks. Ill take a kel tec that wont kill my neighbor when I drop it.
The ruger LCP is a copy of the kel tec and everyone knows that copies are never as good. It may look more sexy but I would (and do daily) trust my life to the kel tec.
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it had to be dropped from like 25 feet or something, not really a real-world issue and the "problems" been corrected.
frankly, the majority of rugers recent products have been absolutely terrific, a hiccup or two, but all in all no big deal.
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Yes. The kel tec is better.
I shoot 6 round groups at 25 meters that are under 3.5inches with the P3AT. The LCP wasnt as accurate imho.
But the reason why there is more than one gun manufacturer is becuase people have different opinions, I have only been voicing mine.
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hmmmmmm? my braggadocio's meter is going off.
No offense but this sounds a little made up,
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I love my wife's PPS. it's bigger, but it's stil small enough to be a pocket gun in my Wrangler's.
That being said, the revolver BS is anything but. If you have a FTF, you just pull the trigger again, and if you never have a FTE... And they are typically lighter. My S&W 442 weighs in at 1 lb loaded.
Just saying.
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The Ruger is absolutely a P3AT copy. You can even use a P3AT mag in a LCP (Ruger mag won't work in the Keltec though). Keltec's were always a little rough around the edges but with a little tweaking and a handful of rounds through them they did decently, the LCP's are supposed to be slightly improved out of the box.
That said, they both shoot like poo but they're dynamite to carry in a front pocket. I've been strongly considering picking up a LCP so I could quit carrying a full frame around. Should have never gotten rid of my Keltec.
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I would only carry FMJ in a .380 if I had to carry a 380.
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I would only carry FMJ in a .380 if I had to carry a 380.
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I have never had any feeding problems with Critical Defense.
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I just doubt their penetration with a traditional SD round. With a .380 I want a FMJ in the winter, I might carry a hollow point in the summer but not a chance in the winter.
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Take a look at Kel Tec's P3AT, it also shoots a .380 round like the Ruger LCP but I feel that this pistol is far superior to te Ruger.
Customer service from Kel Tec is amazing. My buddy sent his p3at in for a different color frame and got it back within the week.
I have put roughly 500 rounds through mine and had zero FTFs, and it is an accurate gun for its stats.
I shoot Critical Defense ammo out of it from time to time to make sure it fires well and it has never had any problems. The damn belt clip holster is hard as fuk to get on though, but I also didnt have a punch.
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how many rounds have u put through a LCP?
kel tec=plastic spring/slide pin. one of many things worse about 3at. yes, I have both. Ruger copied Kel tec, and made it better. Best thing I did was smooth out the feed ramp. no FTLS after that.
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kel tec=plastic spring/slide pin. one of many things worse about 3at.
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What are you calling a plastic "spring/slide pin"? There is no part called that.
The 'assembly pin' is steel on mine. I have never seen a plastic one.
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my grandfather owns one of these and he has said the same thing about the trigger being lousy...
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As far as looking at just measured trigger pull FWIW, the LCP has an 8 lbs trigger vs 5 lbs on the P3AT.
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I like nutnfancy's work. Im not sure whats with the nutnfancy hate. He has a LOT of good info that he has spent a lot of time on. I'd say his work is pretty impressive.
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I agree. I am not subscribed to his videos as I hardly ever log into my youtube account, but I try and check out his page on a pretty regular basis.
In other news, in part due to this thread I am now the happy owner of a brand new Ruger LCP. I am about to head out to the range to test it out, unfortunately I was only able to find Gold dots in 380 so I will probably only be putting about twenty rounds down range as they are about $1 a round. I will try and remember to get back in this thread and let you know what my impressions of it are.
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