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Emergency PCT help!!
I'm finishing up my cycle of 1-T and epistane at 20/20/30/30/30/20 and was going to pct with nolva 20/20/10/10 and toco 8 and then sustain alpha and endoamp.
problem- my nolva won't be until next week
should i extend my cycle another week until i get my nolva
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end cycle now and just use sustain/endo/toco?
i know. big mistake.
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10-31-2009, 10:53 AM
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if your feeling ok id extend the cycle but drop one of the pH's. order some iforce reversitol and start pct with that until the nolva gets there.
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if your feeling ok id extend the cycle but drop one of the pH's. order some iforce reversitol and start pct with that until the nolva gets there.
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WHY would he order reversitol and wait for that to get there if the nolva is coming in??
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Sticky situation...
If it were me, and I was feeling ok, I would low dose the 1-t and do 20mg on the epi for another week until it got there.
If you start to not feel ok, drop the 1-t and run epi at 20 for the last week.
If you really start to not feel ok, start the TRS stack and just add in the nolva when it gets in.
Just remember to never ever start a cycle without having everything on hand first.
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Why is everyone saying to extend cycle? Ya you risk losing gains but for health reasons id say not to go longer than you should. Wait it out till you get nolva in, its not like you wont be able to get your system going because you waited a week after the cycle ended.
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Eric (primordial performance founder) has said that the TRS would be enough for a 1-T Havoc cycle (if kept at 6 weeks). I would just start the TRS, then use some of your nova once it comes in (if needed).
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10-31-2009, 04:27 PM
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Eric (primordial performance founder) has said that the TRS would be enough for a 1-T Havoc cycle (if kept at 6 weeks). I would just start the TRS, then use some of your nova once it comes in (if needed).
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how would i dose the nolva if i already start the trs?
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how would i dose the nolva if i already start the trs?
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This should help
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10-31-2009, 04:32 PM
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Should had waited for the nolva before starting. You'll know next time.
I know epistane by itself would only need an otc pct, but 1-T stacked with epi, I have no clue.
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Should had waited for the nolva before starting. You'll know next time.
I know epistane by itself would only need an otc pct, but 1-T stacked with epi, I have no clue.
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would it be ok if i starts the trs for one week till the nolva gets in then switch to nolva and stop the trs? then restart the trs after nolva is complete? would i need iforce reversitol on top of that?
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would it be ok if i starts the trs for one week till the nolva gets in then switch to nolva and stop the trs? then restart the trs after nolva is complete? would i need iforce reversitol on top of that?
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I don't see why that would be a problem. And no you wouldn't need Reversitol on top of that.
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would it be ok if i starts the trs for one week till the nolva gets in then switch to nolva and stop the trs? then restart the trs after nolva is complete? would i need iforce reversitol on top of that?
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I would start the TRS, then incorporate the nolva in once you get it. I wouldn't discontinue using the TRS.
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11-01-2009, 10:00 AM
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I would start the TRS, then incorporate the nolva in once you get it. I wouldn't discontinue using the TRS.
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There is really no need to take TRS and Nolva at the same time. I think it would be better to take the TRS starting in the 3rd week of PCT to control estrogen rebound possibilities of Nolva.
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Why did you start a cycle before you had your PCT in your possession???
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Why did you start a cycle before you had your PCT in your possession???
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Several people do this because they assume it will arrive quickly/there will be no problems. But when you assume, you make an ass out of u and me.
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A week means close to nothing either way. Just stay on. Your body has already taken the hit so makeit worth your while. No one here really understands PCT anyway, they just paste cookie cutter bullsh*t. You'll survive.
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A week means close to nothing either way. Just stay on. Your body has already taken the hit so makeit worth your while. No one here really understands PCT anyway, they just paste cookie cutter bullsh*t. You'll survive.
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Actually, there are several studies proving that if you don't start a PCT of Tribulus within 5 minutes of cessation of cycle, then your nuts will shrink and eventually retract inside the body. After a week, his system would be so shut down that no amount of Nolva/HCG could save him from imminent death.
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ok im goin to start my trs tomorrow until my nolva comes in.. is there anyother product i can stack with that? a natty?
also i have prime and powerfull, can i use them with pct?
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Eric (primordial performance founder) has said that the TRS would be enough for a 1-T Havoc cycle (if kept at 6 weeks). I would just start the TRS, then use some of your nova once it comes in (if needed).
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ofcourse they say that. he wants to make money
i would low dose it til nolva gets in
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11-06-2009, 06:59 AM
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thanks guys. im on trs now, i get my nolva in 2 days..
once i start nolva itll be 20/20/10/10- how should i take that?
- should i be taking anything else with it? a natty test booster?
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either stay on or just run the otc pct sh*t. The only question I have is: are your sure your serm is coming in a week? If you are sure then just extend the cycle till then. If you arent sure then you need to look to doing a otc pct.
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nolva is here. 25mg pills. how should i dose this? can i take anything with it? (natty test booster,prime,powerfull)
and when should i take it? before bed?
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nolva is here. 25mg pills. how should i dose this? can i take anything with it? (natty test booster,prime,powerfull)
and when should i take it? before bed?
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odd that its in dosings of 25mg....usually its 10mg or 20mg.
You can really take it whenever, most people take it before bed....just made sure your consistent, and yes you can incorporate a natty test booster.
If you have the TRS Stack....you could do 25/25/12.5/12.5 with TRS
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odd that its in dosings of 25mg....usually its 10mg or 20mg.
You can really take it whenever, most people take it before bed....just made sure your consistent, and yes you can incorporate a natty test booster.
If you have the TRS Stack....you could do 25/25/12.5/12.5 with TRS
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So it'd be better to actually run nolva WITH the trs?
and nvm its 20mg tabs. (tamoxiplex- axio labs)
OR should i stop trs for now and just run nolva with a natty and then start trs the 3rd week of nolva?
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OP, i hope you learn to not start a cycle without getting all your stuff before hand.
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n celltech has that so call claim of it delivers to your blood vessels etc..
might get me big etc... n all that sugar surely would help
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So it'd be better to actually run nolva WITH the trs?
and nvm its 20mg tabs. (tamoxiplex- axio labs)
OR should i stop trs for now and just run nolva with a natty and then start trs the 3rd week of nolva?
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after one week of trs ive decided to hop on nolva then continue trs after. ill be taking axis labs hypertest the whole time.
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after one week of trs ive decided to hop on nolva then continue trs after. ill be taking axis labs hypertest the whole time.
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theres no problem with taking the TRS stack in conjunction with the Nolva
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