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10-29-2009, 09:20 AM
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Thank you President Obama
For pushing this country towards becoming a more conservative nation.
We owe you a great debt. 
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QUOTE=SDMuscleBuddy
Personally, like Rev. Wright, I don't think Jones is all that radical. They are certainly colorful in their speech, but that doesn't make them wrong. The Jones affair was more partisan hackery IMO.
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10-29-2009, 09:24 AM
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banks own people i.e loans
government owns banks i.e govt bailout
i.e. government owns everybody
inb4calledafearmongererforexpressingconcernsforthe futureofthenation
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10-29-2009, 09:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by powerman2000
For pushing this country towards becoming a more conservative nation.
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How do you figure that? If you look at Obama's presidency like a football game, we are only in the first quarter. We still have a long ways to go.
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10-29-2009, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Thinman
How do you figure that? If you look at Obama's presidency like a football game, we are only in the first quarter. We still have a long ways to go.
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i think he is referring to recent gallop polls which have found that the majority of the nation is now conservative. i dont know though, the OP wasn't very clear. at any rate we will just have to wait until 2012
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10-29-2009, 11:00 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by powerman2000
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Only reason Obama was elected is because conservatives screwed up.
Swings both ways man.
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10-29-2009, 11:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TeeR4v_Gainer
i think he is referring to recent gallop polls which have found that the majority of the nation is now conservative.
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Fiscally conservative, yes. And that's a good thing.
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i dont know though, the OP wasn't very clear.
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He never is. He's not here for a discussion, he's here to spread hate. Kind of ironic, considering he's at the cross.
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10-29-2009, 11:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WilyCoder
Only reason Obama was elected is because republicans screwed up.
Swings both ways man.
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prosecute the obame$$iah and joe biden for their war crimes now!
20,000 new troops have been sent into the middle east to fight the obame$$iah's war for oil, power, and vengence.
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10-29-2009, 11:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WilyCoder
Only reason Obama was elected is because social conservatives screwed up.
Swings both ways man.
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Originally Posted by otisthebat
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double fixt.
kick the social conservatives out of the republican party and I would vote for them (see: ron paul).
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10-29-2009, 11:12 AM
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double fixt.
kick the social conservatives out of the republican party and I would vote for them (see: ron paul).
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most republicans support big government. kick them all out.
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10-29-2009, 12:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Thinman
How do you figure that? If you look at Obama's presidency like a football game, we are only in the first quarter. We still have a long ways to go.
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I figure that because the latest Gallup polls show an increase in self-proclaimed conservatives and a decrease in self-proclaimed liberals in our nation.
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QUOTE=SDMuscleBuddy
Personally, like Rev. Wright, I don't think Jones is all that radical. They are certainly colorful in their speech, but that doesn't make them wrong. The Jones affair was more partisan hackery IMO.
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10-29-2009, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TeeR4v_Gainer
at any rate we will just have to wait until 2012
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wait until 2012 for what?
what I'm talking about is happening now
Obama's and his administration is obviously causing people to move away from liberals and the nation is becoming more conservative. This isn't exclusive of politicians.
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QUOTE=SDMuscleBuddy
Personally, like Rev. Wright, I don't think Jones is all that radical. They are certainly colorful in their speech, but that doesn't make them wrong. The Jones affair was more partisan hackery IMO.
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10-29-2009, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by otisthebat
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nah man, conservatives screwed up. <5% of vote=epic failure
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10-29-2009, 12:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WilyCoder
Only reason Obama was elected is because conservatives screwed up.
Swings both ways man.
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What swings both ways?
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QUOTE=SDMuscleBuddy
Personally, like Rev. Wright, I don't think Jones is all that radical. They are certainly colorful in their speech, but that doesn't make them wrong. The Jones affair was more partisan hackery IMO.
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10-29-2009, 12:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by powerman2000
What swings both ways?
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The concept of a political parties' mistakes fueling support for their opposition.
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10-29-2009, 12:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WilyCoder
Fiscally conservative, yes. And that's a good thing.
He never is. He's not here for a discussion, he's here to spread hate. Kind of ironic, considering he's at the cross.
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Hate?.....really? 
How's that?
Oh that's right, anyone who's critical of the Obamabot's master is a hate monger.
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QUOTE=SDMuscleBuddy
Personally, like Rev. Wright, I don't think Jones is all that radical. They are certainly colorful in their speech, but that doesn't make them wrong. The Jones affair was more partisan hackery IMO.
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10-29-2009, 12:22 PM
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10-29-2009, 12:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WilyCoder
The concept of a political parties' mistakes fueling support for their opposition.
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The poll isn't about political parties.
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Personally, like Rev. Wright, I don't think Jones is all that radical. They are certainly colorful in their speech, but that doesn't make them wrong. The Jones affair was more partisan hackery IMO.
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10-29-2009, 12:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by powerman2000
Oh that's right, anyone who's critical of the Obamabot's master is a hate monger.
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Proof positive that you only seek arguments.
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10-29-2009, 12:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by powerman2000
The poll isn't about political parties.
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Replace 'political parties' with 'ideologies'.
Political parties are run according to ideologies, so what I said is basically the same thing. Go ahead and argue about it though.
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10-29-2009, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by WilyCoder
Replace 'political parties' with 'ideologies'.
Political parties are run according to ideologies, so what I said is basically the same thing. Go ahead and argue about it though.
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To some extent, though the poll shows that there are twice as many conservatives than liberals and yet the republicans still cannot manage to tap into this in terms of votes. I guess that can be put down to a weak leadership and the inability to truly represent conservative values...
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10-29-2009, 12:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stateless
To some extent, though the poll shows that there are twice as many conservatives than liberals and yet the republicans still cannot manage to tap into this in terms of votes. I guess that can be put down to a weak leadership and the inability to truly represent conservative values...
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I think that's because republicans traded in fiscal conservatism for social conservatism.
Penny pinching and creating a christian theocracy are two entirely different things.
But people see 'conservative' and its all the same to them...
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10-29-2009, 12:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stateless
To some extent, though the poll shows that there are twice as many conservatives than liberals and yet the republicans still cannot manage to tap into this in terms of votes. I guess that can be put down to a weak leadership and the inability to truly represent conservative values...
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That, or people who mistakenly keep thinking that their voting in a conservative by voting for the guy/gal with the (R) next to their name.
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10-29-2009, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by YUL
nah man, conservatives screwed up. <5% of vote=epic failure
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i guess youre right. it's their fault that 95% of americans are retarded and still think any candidate in the 2 party system will bring true change.
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10-29-2009, 12:45 PM
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To some extent, though the poll shows that there are twice as many conservatives than liberals and yet the republicans still cannot manage to tap into this in terms of votes. I guess that can be put down to a weak leadership and the inability to truly represent conservative values...
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100% correct
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Personally, like Rev. Wright, I don't think Jones is all that radical. They are certainly colorful in their speech, but that doesn't make them wrong. The Jones affair was more partisan hackery IMO.
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10-29-2009, 01:02 PM
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If you mean fiscally conservative, then yes, I agree. However, I'm also very happy that folks like Huckabee and other social interventionists have led the country in a more socially liberal direction. There's way too much religion in America, especially in the political sphere.
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10-29-2009, 02:35 PM
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Most Americans don't even know what conservative means. As long as you don't allow "DEM HOMOS TO GET MARRIED" they (and by they, I mean the Republican party's base, i.e. self-described conservatives) are happy.
Most Americans, if they knew the difference, would be liberal, because they actually enjoy things like not being raped by corporations and having clean, safe drinking water or safe work environments or asbestos-free housing or poison-free food.
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10-29-2009, 02:36 PM
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I have found peace with powerman2000:
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QUOTE=SDMuscleBuddy
Personally, like Rev. Wright, I don't think Jones is all that radical. They are certainly colorful in their speech, but that doesn't make them wrong. The Jones affair was more partisan hackery IMO.
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