Targeted CKD

[GambleBrah]

yes i typed that right. this is a combination of the two. basically carbs pre and post workout. and then a 24 hour carb-up on the weekend (Sunday). actually read it in some article of lyle mcdonald(though he recommends going the full 48 hours carb-up on the weekend)

im going to try this one out. i was previously an obese person(yeah from 230 lbs im now at 165). and i cant handle too much carbs nicely, not unless its just a cheat day. but give me a cheat week full of carbs and fat and ill be back to my oldself in no time.

so i gotta add up some nice decent size(who wants to be a skinny ******* anyways), and minimize the fat gain.

i have not seen any guides on the net with regards to this, so i have to do some experimentation with myself. i was thinking i would and should go back into ketosis within two hours after workout. if anyone has done this, please share what are the results.

so here's the plan, i workout in the morning(with only black coffee fueling me). im gonna start with adding some postworkout carbs(milk in my whey shake, still adding fat though(PB) to lessen spikes) for recovery. gotta run it for a few days and then maybe add some preworkout carbs when there are positive results.

will be checking back in for further results. for now i need to get some rest. its day 3 tomorrow btw (shoulders, traps).

[KaylaElizabeth]

How long have you been doing an SKD? It is always reccomended to become fat-adapted (8-12 weeks) on an SKD, before experimenting with a TKD/CKD.

[XinApoK]

I currently run this. I have been doing it for about a month. But I do an 18 hour refeed starting Friday morning. I dont slip out of keto and I have had good results

[GambleBrah]

How long have you been doing an SKD? It is always reccomended to become fat-adapted (8-12 weeks) on an SKD, before experimenting with a TKD/CKD.

I could consider myself as advanced already when it comes to training.

Id say im right around 9-10% BF.

Ive been running ckd already for about 2 weeks. And I could tell that I can go in keto quickly. Note that ive already ran a keto diet before for a long period of time and had great results. I think I am fat-adapted already. Plus the fact that I workout 6 times a week on heavy weights.

So now I wanna add some size. I dont wanna get crazy over the weight though as this may translate to more fat. Hence this approach to keto.

A recent pic of mine:

[GambleBrah]

I currently run this. I have been doing it for about a month. But I do an 18 hour refeed starting Friday morning. I dont slip out of keto and I have had good results

Thats good to hear. Personally, I just want to fool myself that ive added size using carbs, when in reality it was fat.

Could I ask how many cals are you in surplus? And how much mass you gain every week? I was thinking 0.5-1 lb gain a week as a target.

[XinApoK]

I was using it as a maintenance diet. The level of intensity of my workouts is what demanded more glycogen.

[GambleBrah]

I've been running TKD for a couple of days now. So this is what i have

Pre-WO:
1/2 cup of rolled oats 25g carbs
2 tbsp skimmed milk 10g carbs
2.5g creatine
hot water

Post-WO:
1 scoop Whey Protein
Skimmed milk powder
Water
2.5g creatine

i could say energy levels are much better than on CKD. like i said im working out 6 times a week, and usually when im on CKD, i'm already depleted by the 2nd day( i could say this because theres no push in my legs anymore while walking)

ill be following this with a carb-up on day 7(rest day). im currently 165 right now. ill be waiting for a couple more weeks to show progress.

[GambleBrah]

i hit chest today, and did a run(would consider it LISS at is was more of like jogging and walking for around 15 mins). - the run was a bit hard because my legs wouldnt just cooperate with me

what i noticed though is that i had an explosive start to the workout. but noticed to crash mid-way.

i was thinking 50g total(pre and post) doesn't suffice for an individual who lifts heavy.

btw this is my workout for today in case anyone's wondering.

flat BB press (4x10-12x200)
incline DB press(4x10-12x70 DBs)
decline BB press (4x10-12x200)
dips(3x10-12x30lb weight)
cable flyes(3x10-12)
close grip BB(3x10x135)(was crashing already)
skullcrusher(3x10x80)
cable pressdown(3x10)
kickbacks(3x10)

maybe id shoot for 100g tomorrow and see what happens...

[GambleBrah]

chest and triceps that is.

Plus i noticed that metallic taste never leaves my mouth during WO and even after drinking my PostWO shake. does that mean i wasn't kicked out of keto one bit?

[GG249]

Plus i noticed that metallic taste never leaves my mouth during WO

You experience this during every workout?