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    east2 to prem1 in a season and me trying to stay there.

    saw a couple of rugby journals in here so i thought i join the party. basically over the last year ive gone from playing in the worst league in scotland to the best league manily down to luck and the club i'm at but also because i put in alot of work in at the gym over the last year and actually did a preseason for the first time in my life.


    rugby wise where i'm at is that i'm getting a few games due to the team i play for is really strugling for props and i happend to be playing for an assisoate club and i got called up for a friendly and i managed to impress enough that ive had a stint in a few legaue games.

    physically the step up in speed, fitness, size is massive and i'm really strugling to cope and i'm basically just waiting for some injuryed guys to get fit and ill prob get the boot back to my club.

    things i need to improve are primary my fitness and size.


    current stats


    bw 98.2kgs.....droped from around 103kg in july
    bf% maybe 15-20 no idea
    bench 100kgsx2.....was 130kgx3 but injured rotator cuff so no bench for a while
    squat 215kgsx5....moving to front squats so 90kgsx8
    dead 210kgx2....working on grip so strapless is 140kgsx2
    mill press 100kgsx1....find this alot easier on my shoulder.


    as you can see i like my excuses and stats for my ego.


    ill try keep this as up2date as pos.
    people ask me how to train, and i answer "i look at what you do and then i do the exact oposite"


    if your family was captured and you were told you needed to put 100 pounds onto your max squat within two months or your family would be executed, would you squat once per week? Something tells me that you'd start squatting every day
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    monday 26/10/09 workout


    front squat 40 75 75 75 90x8 (kg)
    calf raises 70 100 120 120 x12 (kg)
    hammy curls 90 90 110 110 150x10 (lb)
    bd row 17.5 22.5 32.5 32.5 40 x10 (kg)
    db lunges 20 20 25 25 25x10 (kg)

    5x200m sprints on rowing machine with 30 secs inbetween.



    most of my lifts will be in kg's except the machines which are lb's
    people ask me how to train, and i answer "i look at what you do and then i do the exact oposite"


    if your family was captured and you were told you needed to put 100 pounds onto your max squat within two months or your family would be executed, would you squat once per week? Something tells me that you'd start squatting every day
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    tuesday 27/10/09

    rugby training with accies

    after saturdays dreadfull performance our coaches decided to have a full on game at training as a competition for places excercise kinda thing and it was fair to say as is with most times these things are done the 2nds beat the 1st team.

    played 3x20-30min thirds i think.

    first third 1st team got atacking set peice
    second third 2nd team got atacking.
    final third mixed team full on game.


    from this i learn that my rucking skills are lasy and i tend to go soft in from the side which was screamed at me lots of time by our coach and that i'm still adjusting to the different patterns of play and that i can't hit every ruck not even every 2nd ruck at this level and i need to adjust my game management untill i raise my fitness.
    people ask me how to train, and i answer "i look at what you do and then i do the exact oposite"


    if your family was captured and you were told you needed to put 100 pounds onto your max squat within two months or your family would be executed, would you squat once per week? Something tells me that you'd start squatting every day
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    How do the leagues work in scotland?

    In aus it goes.

    Test > Super rugby (super 14's) > State Championships > Club rugby division 1 (i.e. sydney university) > Local Suburb Club Rugby.

    Or something to that effect.
    310 Pounds down to 218 Pounds.
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    so are you playing in the league with all irish an walsh club forget what its called or one below?
    Personly id would test my fitness using one of the vo2 test so you can see the impovement in 4 weeks time.
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    christ i played against accies int he seconds game...it was embarrising we just ran round in circles like we werent even playing... dunno what happened..
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    Originally Posted by beertank23 View Post
    How do the leagues work in scotland?

    In aus it goes.

    Test > Super rugby (super 14's) > State Championships > Club rugby division 1 (i.e. sydney university) > Local Suburb Club Rugby.

    Or something to that effect.
    Originally Posted by jeq View Post
    so are you playing in the league with all irish an walsh club forget what its called or one below?
    Personly id would test my fitness using one of the vo2 test so you can see the impovement in 4 weeks time.
    technically its the level below but its not a bridgeable moveable gap if you get me and i'm strugling to keep my place in the team.

    the leagues go.


    international-pro

    hienken cup> amlin cup- pro(europe)
    magners league-pro(scottish, welsh, irish)

    Prem1-semi-pro

    Prem2>Prem3>Nat1>Nat2>Nat3>regional1>regional2>reg ional3-(regionals are east, west, cally)-amateur

    Originally Posted by scott_donald View Post
    christ i played against accies int he seconds game...it was embarrising we just ran round in circles like we werent even playing... dunno what happened..

    who one that game i don't really pay attention to accies 2's as i'm technically still a trinity player, theres some really good players in the accies 2's side alot of 'regular' 1sts who have fallen out wi the coach. how come you're playing 2's


    ......that league structure's about right, id put prem1 in its own little bit as the gap between prem1 and prem2 is getting pretty big, i mean you have teams like currie and ayr who are pretty much pro sides(quasy or woteva that word is is the term ive seen floating around the papers at the mo) although rugby wont be the main income or job for some players.
    people ask me how to train, and i answer "i look at what you do and then i do the exact oposite"


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    i got dropped after first 5 games... didnt play last week as was in london... just lost interest since getting dropped and not enjoying it this year to tell you the truth...
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    i was getting like that at trinity cos they are going no-where and we'll id almost peaked there bit this wee stint i'm getting in prem1 has done me the world of good and rugby actualy feels amazing again its almost as good as u18's and u16's plus i'm learning something almost every minuet am at training aswell which is great.

    i know a few guys around you're age that are just going down the gym route after a few boring seasons.



    wednesday 28/10/09 gym sesh

    push press 40 70 70 70 70x8
    chin ups 5 8 6 6 7 BW
    db decline skull crushers 5 17.5 17.5 17.5 17.5x8
    ez bar standing skulls 30 30 30 30x8
    deadlifts 80x6 110x6 140x5 150x1 155x1 170x6 200x3 used straps for the last two
    shrugs 70x30
    bb curls 30 30 30x8


    slighlty rushed workout but that made it kinda good and a bit more intence really happy with the deadlifts as my grip is getting better new PR on the 1rm and 140kgx5 is 3 more reps than last week. think ill keep the last two with straps and just add reps unitll i can lift 200kgs no straps.
    people ask me how to train, and i answer "i look at what you do and then i do the exact oposite"


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    friday 30/10/09

    had team runs and lineouts 2nte as we never got enough done last nte.

    also had a quick gym workout 2 ease off a few muscles.

    good mornings 20 40 40 40x8
    s/s close grip chin ups 5 8 8 8
    db shrugs 15 25 25 40x20 10x50
    front raises 5 5 7.5x10
    s/s side laterals 5 5 7.5x10
    side db curls 12.5 20 25x10
    core workout-basically mucking around wi a stabilty ball.
    people ask me how to train, and i answer "i look at what you do and then i do the exact oposite"


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    monday 2/11/09

    very very hungover workout pretty sure ill be looking a 3day hangover 2moro...damn hallowean.

    front squats 40 80 80 80 100x8-the 100kgs felt spot on
    db row 20 35 35 35 35x10
    hammy curls 90 110 130 150 150x10 (lbs)
    lat pull down 90 150 150 150 190x8 (lbs)- form wasn't strict enough at 190
    pull ups 3 @ bw
    db lunge 15 15 15 15 15x10
    cleans 50 60 70 80x3 100-fail 60x5 straight into 50x8
    bb row 60x8

    sprints 10x100m on the rowing machine 15secs rest between sprints total distance was 1200m



    actually quite pleased with this workout, sorta stuck with my routine but also did a bit of what i felt like as i added in lat pull downs and a few cleans at the end and changed the order up a bit. also happy with the progress on most of my lifts things are going up nicely and i'm also pleased with the fact that my wieght stayed the same at 97.9kgs considering all the abuse and damage i did to my body at the weekend.

    can't wait to get back on creatine next week and bench press when ever i can do that again although i think it might be looking like next year before i bench again.
    people ask me how to train, and i answer "i look at what you do and then i do the exact oposite"


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    Didn't know you were involved in the Accies. Saw them play in 07.
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    Originally Posted by GregNuthurst View Post
    Didn't know you were involved in the Accies. Saw them play in 07.
    i wasn't back then, who where they playing do you know anyone at accies. the club i'm at have a link with them through the minis the BAT's (Broughton, Accies, Trinity) and ive just been lucky enough to get a call up to their 1st's for the last month but ive now decided to go back to trinity and i'm not sure if it was such a good idea. was a really good month 3 starts and 1 of the bench also i played in a pre-season friendly and benched for them agaisnt selkirk earlier in the season plus i was learning something everytime i was at training which was great. hopefully ill get to go back and stay with them

    i need to get myslef alot fitter if i wana play properly and keep starting at that level and then maybe pack on a few extra kg's of muscle cos i don't know many 98kg props kicking around prems.
    people ask me how to train, and i answer "i look at what you do and then i do the exact oposite"


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    wednesday 4/11/09

    bb shoulder press 40 72.5 72.5 72.5 75x8
    chin ups 8 8 8 6@BW
    decline db skulls 7.5 20 20 20x8
    standing bb tricept extensions bar 30 35 35 37.5x8
    deadlifts 80x8 110x7 130x2 70x12(olympic bar) 140x8 160x3(thiner bar)

    rowing machine fitness drill

    goal- 5 sets of 4x250m 'sprints' 30 secs rest between reps and 2mins rest between sets

    2nte i managed 2sets

    times 1st: 3:55 2nd 7:53

    pretty decent workout, didn't have straps for the deadlifts so i couldn't build up my 200kgs but again i managed more reps at 140kgs and 160kgx3 is a new max without straps. i also think all the deadlifting effected my performance on the rowing machine as my arms where destroyed and i reckon i woulda done atleast a 3rd set if i never did the deads.

    also tried benching again did 50kgsx8 and it was so sore. think ill just leave bench untill next year. shoulder pressing should keep my strength levels within reason.
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    100kg military press is pretty freaking impressive man, nice work.
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    Originally Posted by monatu View Post
    100kg military press is pretty freaking impressive man, nice work.
    thanks, duno if i could do it currently as ive been working on my reps recently and i wana try add a little more size. my current goal is 100kgx8. hoping to try this just after xmas
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    friday 6/11/09


    quicker than normal workout although still pretty good. i'm not to sure what to with friday nte workouts at the mo so they usually end up as beach wieghts and prehab

    BB curls 30 30 35 35x8
    s/s Close grip chins 8 7 2 5@bw

    db shrugs 20 25 30x15 35x12 40x10 50x8 17.5x25

    cable r.c. work 3 3 3x8
    s/s front raises 5 7.5 7.5x8

    sit ups 20 20 20 @15kg plate
    s/s twists 20 20 20 @15kg plate

    rower-same as above (4x250m)

    1st set 3:52 2nd set 7:46 3rd set 11:43

    decided to stop after 3 sets seing as i have a game tomoro and i didn't want to totally kill myself gona get all 5 sets done on monday.
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    Originally Posted by toad1 View Post
    friday 6/11/09

    decided to stop after 3 sets seing as i have a game tomoro and i didn't want to totally kill myself gona get all 5 sets done on monday.
    Good Idea bro done that b4 haha played like ****.
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    Originally Posted by Urbancohort View Post
    Good Idea bro done that b4 haha played like ****.
    i think even the 3 sets was to many as i felt slighlty fatigued during the game but i could also have been the 9am bus that got us to our game 2hours before k.o and the lack of sleep.
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    well a few players in my team used to turn up drunk and hung over from night before.... Most annoyingthing when you see them missing basic tackles and laughing about it.
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    apparently the team that played agaisnt trinity last week had a few hungover/drunk guys in the team. going to the gym instead of the pub was one of the reasons i started going to the gym

    monday 9/11/09

    db flat bench 20 30 35 35x8
    bb bench 70x12
    front squat 40 70 90 90 105x8 135x3
    db row 20 30 40 40 40x10
    hammy curl 90 110 150 150 130x10(lbs)
    s/s lat pull downs 150 170 170x10(lbs)
    db lunge 20 20 20 20 20x10

    rower 1st set 3:48 2nd 7:50


    decent enough workout happy with the front squats and the db row really worked my grip on those 3 sets of 40kg. decided to some db bench first as the gym was busy and i couldn't get in the racks then did some bb bench cos i was still waiting on the racks benching is still not 100% ill give it another go in a couple weeks. also chucked in lat pull downs as a super set on the last three sets of hammstring curls as the machine was free and it was better than resting. dissapointed with the rowing machine fitness as i ran out of time and my 2nd set was slower than friday's.

    ive also notice that mondays are becoming more of a legs and upper back day when they where ment to be bench and squat day with assistance work and wednesday is/was mill press and deadlift day idea based on wendlers 5/3/1 workout out.
    people ask me how to train, and i answer "i look at what you do and then i do the exact oposite"


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    strong front squatting there... you are not the best bencher though...
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    it's pretty poor at the mo should get back to above average in the new year once i get my shoulder fit again rotator cuff is taking ages to recover i make it almost 2months since ive benched properly.....but even then ive never had a great bench press...more of a legs man.
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    wednesday 11/11/09

    push press 40 75 75 75 77.5x8
    chin ups 10 10 9 10 @bw
    db skulls 10 15 20 20 20x8
    bb tricep extensions 30 37.5 37.5 37.5x8
    deadlifts 70 90 120x6 142.5x8 170x1 150x5
    bb shrugs 70x25

    rowing machine

    1st set 3:55 2nd 7:53 3rd 11:45

    had to change my rest to 1.5mins and had to do 500m for my last 2 250's in my 3rd set as i ran out of time again. need to start going to the gym earlier so i can rest a bit before fitness and get atleast the 4 set of 250's done.

    but all in really happy with this workout out. new pb's on the deadlift again grip is starting to come along nicely it'll soon be time to get the straps out and aiming for a 300kg dead.
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    strong pulling there... can see why you prop!!!
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    cheers, am up your neck of the woods 2moro playing the 'shire


    friday 13/11/09


    bb curls bar 30 30 32.5 52,5 40x5
    s/s pull ups 5 5 5 3 2 2@bw

    db shrugs 25 30 32.5 40 42.5x8 20x12 2sec hold at the top
    s/s lat raises 5 5 7.5 7.5 10x8

    cable r.c work 3 3 3 3 3x10
    s/s front raises 10 10 12.5 12.5 15x5

    cable crossovers 4 5x20

    sit ups 15x15 15x20 15x15
    s/s twists 15x20 15x30 15x30
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    hope u pump them if it is on... doubt it though weather is supposed to be real bad tonight... my game is off...
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    naw we got beat i had an absolute nightmare, for sum reason i just couldn't scrumage duno what it is with me and playing tighthead it just shouldn't be so difficult. yeh heard about you're game we had paddy playing today.....he was benching tho and we had a 7 in the centre and another flanker on the wing.....i know he was a late call up but a prem2 centre when trinity are strugling for centres and backs surely you should start him.....i think that says whats going wrong with our club at the mo......i could go on and on and on.
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    looking strong mate. Im looking to bulk up and player hooker not sesson.
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    Originally Posted by toad1 View Post
    naw we got beat i had an absolute nightmare, for sum reason i just couldn't scrumage duno what it is with me and playing tighthead it just shouldn't be so difficult. yeh heard about you're game we had paddy playing today.....he was benching tho and we had a 7 in the centre and another flanker on the wing.....i know he was a late call up but a prem2 centre when trinity are strugling for centres and backs surely you should start him.....i think that says whats going wrong with our club at the mo......i could go on and on and on.
    haha paddy just loves a game of rugby!!!

    sorry you lost... i watched the grodonians game and it was good they easily won against an awful helensborough team...
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