Foreign>American

**KPGC10** · 10-25-2009, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by regerla

Look up the FR500CJ. you couldn't be more wrong.

Umm you couldn't help further my point any better... that it a specially built drag car with skinny front tires.

And it does around 11 second passes without even being street legal.

There is 9 second Skylines that are street legal, this UGR Gallardo does 9 second 238mph passes and is still a capable street / track car

**MrGuitar** · 10-25-2009, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by KPGC10

Agreed, but drifting isn't racing...

And no matter what you do to a Mustang it will still be slower through corners than a well built Euro car, this is racing... at least watch the first clip

Dont be ignorant. Its all racing. Drag, auto-x, drifting, open track, ect. People like different types of racing. Just because you may think one is better than another does not disqualify it from being racing. There are people that have spent considerable amounts of time and money in each kind of racing. IMO, to say "oh thats not real racing" makes you an opponent of motorsports and not a fan or supporter.

**MrGuitar** · 10-25-2009, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by thelastpolarbear

Your argument is stupid and invalid. No one in this thread including you and I have ever owned a Z01, R8, or GT-R.

Just because I dont own it doesnt mean I cant pick out its flaws.

Picking flaws out of something you have NO experience with? lol. And i'm not sitting here arguing over 100k+ cars, you are. You cant even drive...

**sohard88** · 10-25-2009, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by BBmisc420196

no, he's wrong lol.

eh mom has the IS250 don't really like it at all (even if it was faster like the 350), feels strange driving it.

**user654415165** · 10-25-2009, 09:27 PM

Originally Posted by KPGC10

Umm you couldn't help further my point any better... that it a specially built drag car with skinny front tires.

And it does around 11 second passes without even being street legal.

There is 9 second Skylines that are street legal, this UGR Gallardo does 9 second 238mph passes and is still a capable street / track car

You couldn't help me prove my point any further.

First of all, the 2010 runs high 8s, the 2009 runs 9.2

Second of all, 9 seconds 238 mph doesn't make any ****ing sense so unless you post a link GTFO

Third of all, i was talking about the track car, not the drag car. There are two variations on the CJ. The drag race one owns two NHRA records and the road race one redifined its race class and was forced to use ballast to keep competing.

**KPGC10** · 10-25-2009, 09:35 PM

Originally Posted by regerla

You couldn't help me prove my point any further.

First of all, the 2010 runs high 8s, the 2009 runs 9.2

Second of all, 9 seconds 238 mph doesn't make any ****ing sense so unless you post a link GTFO

Third of all, i was talking about the track car, not the drag car. There are two variations on the CJ. The drag race one owns two NHRA records and the road race one redifined its race class and was forced to use ballast to keep competing.

Woops I meant 9 second pass and 238mph top speed, it's trap speed is around 170 I think.

And dude ur argument is stupid you're trying to say a Mustang will beat any European contender on a race track (not a drag strip).

If the Mustang was such a good track car it would be winning 24 Hour Lemans and Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters right?

Ur a fukin idiot trying to defend how ****ty American cars (with the exception of the ZR1) are in the face of the world.

**thelastpolarbear** · 10-25-2009, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by MrGuitar

Picking flaws out of something you have NO experience with? lol. And i'm not sitting here arguing over 100k+ cars, you are. You cant even drive...

Lol, so because you are 22 you automatically have experience with these cars and what you say goes? You havent even stepped in one, I havent stepped in one, and no one in this thread has stepped in one I can say what I want.

BRB I put a bolt on turbo kit in my car so that means I have divine knowledge of cars and I have 100% experience with it, in fact I can squeeze out 2000hp from a single cylinder on 87 octane gas. I am an automotive god.

**SUMTINGVEWYWONG** · 10-25-2009, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by Un0RiGiNaL

lawl

v8 mustang > supra??

wtf

v8 mustang > STI?

lmao

doubt it. highly doubt it.

Age: 17

and nice job saying one car is better than the other without offering any facts.

and I highly doubt you have driven any of those cars so please shut your mouth, thank you.

**KPGC10** · 10-25-2009, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by SUMTINGVEWYWONG

Age: 17

and nice job saying one car is better than the other without offering any facts.

and I highly doubt you have driven any of those cars so please shut your mouth, thank you.

I'm not certain but I believe he his in the process of buying an STI at the moment so he probably does...

**user654415165** · 10-25-2009, 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by KPGC10

Woops I meant 9 second pass and 238mph top speed, it's trap speed is around 170 I think.

And dude ur argument is stupid you're trying to say a Mustang will beat any European contender on a race track (not a drag strip).

If the Mustang was such a good track car it would be winning 24 Hour Lemans and Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters right?

Ur a fukin idiot trying to defend how ****ty American cars (with the exception of the ZR1) are in the face of the world.

A Cinderella story, really. In its first year of Grand-Am Cup GrandSport competition, the "Boy Racer" '05 Mustang FR500C took on the likesof Porsche, BMW, Cadillac, and Nissan, handily outrunning them all totake not only the manufacturer's championship for Ford, but also theteam championship (Multimatic Motorsports) and driver's championship(David Empringham).

http://www.mustang50magazine.com/fea...00c/index.html

The car has tons of race provenance.

It had to be detuned because the competition was crying.

**jujuB** · 10-25-2009, 09:42 PM

Originally Posted by Captain Harris

I'll take this American car, for just over $100,000 I might add, over any BMW, Porsche, Ferrari or Lamborghini.

Originally Posted by Captain Harris

Vette still beats both in straight line performance and track times.

**MrGuitar** · 10-25-2009, 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by thelastpolarbear

Lol, so because you are 22 you automatically have experience with these cars and what you say goes? You havent even stepped in one, I havent stepped in one, and no one in this thread has stepped in one I can say what I want.

BRB I put a bolt on turbo kit in my car so that means I have divine knowledge of cars and I have 100% experience with it, in fact I can squeeze out 2000hp from a single cylinder on 87 octane gas. I am an automotive god.

I'm not sure what your incoherent rant is about but I never claimed to have experience with these supercars. I'm not defending any of them. Nor did I ever say that age 22 has anything to do with experience. Would you take bodybuilding advice from a 450lbs woman that has never stepped foot in a gym? Probably not and for the same reason I would not take advice on supercars from someone who has never even been in one and cant even drive. Dont take it personally...

**jujuB** · 10-25-2009, 09:46 PM

and i honestly think the mustang is probably would be on the lowest ladder when it comes to american muscle.

everything they have produced out has always got beaten by something else.....stock wise they aren't all the fast, handling isn't all great...

**Dre2010** · 10-25-2009, 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by -Fletch

i like the Lexus IS250 ... Seems like tons of people here in Texas get the BMW or Mercedes just to look/feel/think they are a high roller.

this. In Texas if you roll in a imports or foreign, most of the time you get it just to show money, or lack there of.

As for me, I go with cars that are just sexy overall, that simple. Honestly the only manufactures I'd pick over "domestic" cars are lambos and acuras/"hondas"

I think everyone has their preference, but I laugh at those trying to talk down on other's picks for the main reason that there's always a "better" one.

**Un0RiGiNaL** · 10-25-2009, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by SUMTINGVEWYWONG

Age: 17

and nice job saying one car is better than the other without offering any facts.

and I highly doubt you have driven any of those cars so please shut your mouth, thank you.

I own a 2.5i. my brother has a stage 2 WRX, my best friend has a stage 2 sti (ive driven it), my other brother has an s2000.

heres the wrx.

STI is fast. a v8 mustang would NOT beat an sti.

im actually in the process of selling my car. I want to get an sti but thats too expensive, im gonna get an MR2 or e36 m3

Oh and ive also driven an M5.one of my good friends just got one.

You dont believe me?

**daveleo911** · 10-25-2009, 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by JayHen

thats not a challenger, thats a porche

lol you really think that's a tight car haha, i LITERALLY Laughed out loud (does not happen often. Thanks you just made the stereotype of mustang drivers even better.

**Mike-anon** · 10-25-2009, 09:54 PM

**jujuB** · 10-25-2009, 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by Mike-anon

i like to have a steel chassis around me.

you know, just in case someone hits me or something?

bikes are too scary for me

**Mike-anon** · 10-25-2009, 10:02 PM

Originally Posted by juju_BEAN

i like to have a steel chassis around me.

you know, just in case someone hits me or something?

bikes are too scary for me

I'm just putting it out there because people like to throw numbers around like they're actually going to be going 0-60 in 3.8 seconds, and driving around at 240 on a daily basis.

Like the top speeds and acceleration are all that make the perfect vehicle

. (Hence the bike).

**Dre2010** · 10-25-2009, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by daveleo911

lol you really think that's a tight car haha, i LITERALLY Laughed out loud (does not happen often. Thanks you just made the stereotype of mustang drivers even better.

for the record, that's a shelby cobra

**Clives_Bicep** · 10-25-2009, 10:39 PM

fuk your foreign vehicles!

**Clives_Bicep** · 10-25-2009, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by daveleo911

lol you really think that's a tight car haha, i LITERALLY Laughed out loud (does not happen often. Thanks you just made the stereotype of mustang drivers even better.

you fail for using the word "tight" STFU

**Captain Harris** · 10-25-2009, 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by juju_BEAN

I knew this crap would be posted. The guy shifting in the Vette should be embarrassed of himself. The Vette 0-60 is advertised by Motor Trend as 3.3 sec and the 1/4 mile in 11.2 sec.

On the Nurburing road course, the Vette set a new record with a 7:26.4 as opposed to the GT2 with a 7:32.02

**dmacfour** · 10-25-2009, 11:18 PM

It's funny how people crap all over the Mustang. So much so that they didn't notice that the 2009 Mustang, despite the suspension, is the best handling out of the three current muscle cars everyone talks about.

**LoweRider** · 10-26-2009, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by Un0RiGiNaL

I own a 2.5i. my brother has a stage 2 WRX, my best friend has a stage 2 sti (ive driven it), my other brother has an s2000.

heres the wrx.

STI is fast. a v8 mustang would NOT beat an sti.

im actually in the process of selling my car. I want to get an sti but thats too expensive, im gonna get an MR2 or e36 m3

Oh and ive also driven an M5.one of my good friends just got one.

You dont believe me?

Age: 17

GTFO with that ****... you neg me for a dumbass reason and you're posting that POS?

How many more payments does your dad have left on it?

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