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Old 10-22-2009, 08:10 AM   #1
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Angry High Protein Diet Increases Alzheimer's Risk

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Giving up your low-carb diet may be the best thing you could done for your memory. A new study suggests a high-protein diet may actually increase the risk of Alzheimer's disease.

The study, published in the journal "Molecular Neurodegeneration," found that mice fed a diet rich in protein and low in carbohydrates, similar to that of the original Atkins plan, had brains that were smaller and lighter weight than mice fed other diets. And, areas of their hippocampus -- a region of the brain linked with long-term memory -- were also less developed.

"The most unexpected result of our study was the loss of overall brain mass associated with a high-protein, low-carbohydrate diet," lead author Sam Gandy, a professor at The Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York City and a neurologist at the James J. Peters Veterans Affairs Medical Center in the Bronx, NY told the UK's "Telegraph."

Also unexpected: The reduced brain size does not appear to have been triggered by an increase in the cell-destroying plaque commonly associated with memory loss. The protein-loaded mice did not form any more of this poisonous plaque than the other animals in the study. Therefore it's thought that eating large amounts of protein may actually make the brain more vulnerable to the plaque, causing cells to die even more quickly and ultimately lead to the smaller brain mass.

This could be a double-whammy for those who also eat high-fat foods and are prone to Alzheimer's, according to Gandy. "High-protein diets are used for weight control, and those diets sometimes combine high fat and high protein, which may be doubly damaging, if the high fat increases the accumulation of plaques and the high protein sensitizes nerve cells to the poison released by plaques," he said in press release about the study.

But, it's not yet known if these findings have implications for the human brain. Gandy says this would require double-blind clinical diet trials. "This would be a challenging undertaking, but potentially worthwhile if there is a real chance that the ravages of Alzheimer's might be slowed or avoided through healthy eating," he said. "Such trails will be required if scientists are ever to make specific recommendations about dietary risks for Alzheimer's."

The Alzheimer's Society also agrees additional research is needed. "Further investigation is now needed to better understand whether the way we balance our diet can increase or reduce our vulnerability to Alzheimer's disease," Susanne Sorensen, the UK organization's head of research told the "Daily Mail."

A Mediterranean-style diet, however, has been shown to be helpful for those at risk for mental decline. This diet is known for its low amounts of red meat and poultry and more fish, fruits, nuts, legumes, and vegetables, and includes olive oil and moderate amounts of wine. Getting regular exercise has also been shown to add to the benefits of the Mediterranean diet, further decreasing the risk of Alzheimer's.
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Old 10-22-2009, 08:14 AM   #2
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"This could be a double-whammy for those who also eat high-fat foods and are prone to Alzheimer's, according to Gandy. "High-protein diets are used for weight control, and those diets sometimes combine high fat and high protein, which may be doubly damaging, if the high fat increases the accumulation of plaques and the high protein sensitizes nerve cells to the poison released by plaques," he said in press release about the study."

only seems to apply if you're already a fatass and have bad heart valves filled with plaque. But the diet will help you lose weight and better your cholesterol numbers anyway, So I dont see the problem.

Plus, this is in mice, doesn't necessarily translate to humans.
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we are not mice...

this is one study...

and lighter brains does not correlate to alzheimers or dementia that I know of...

many studies on mice have shown to reverse induced alzheimers in mice (caffeine and huge fun social playgrounds for mice are 2 big ones)

by the time all us high protein guys and gals get 70ish... they will have a cure for this shiz...

and generally us higher protein people tend to eat more veggies and fruits as well (low carb, adkins and general BB type diet) we also exercise 10x more than the average population...cardio and lifting weights... all shown to extend life, increase brain capacity and reduce disease risk... we take epa and dha omega 3s...healthy fats...etc...

ya i was sad when i read this study though..bc its in my family on my dads side.. hope all ive said is correct...bc i dont want alz from my higher protein diet...
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we are not mice...

this is one study...

and lighter brains does not correlate to alzheimers or dementia that I know of...

many studies on mice have shown to reverse induced alzheimers in mice (caffeine and huge fun social playgrounds for mice are 2 big ones)

by the time all us high protein guys and gals get 70ish... they will have a cure for this shiz...

and generally us higher protein people tend to eat more veggies and fruits as well (low carb, adkins and general BB type diet) we also exercise 10x more than the average population...cardio and lifting weights... all shown to extend life, increase brain capacity and reduce disease risk... we take epa and dha omega 3s...healthy fats...etc...

ya i was sad when i read this study though..bc its in my family on my dads side.. hope all ive said is correct...bc i dont want alz from my higher protein diet...
lol, strong lack of education...
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Old 10-22-2009, 01:43 PM   #6
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solution =eat high carb with high protein and take creatine.


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To much protein increases risk of Alzheimer's
To much fat increases risk of heart disease
To many carbs increases risk of diabetes



Who really cares? Staring at this computer screen probably increases our risk of cancer and if it doesn't you could probably still find a study proving it does.
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To much fat increases risk of heart disease
To many carbs increases risk of diabetes



Who really cares? Staring at this computer screen probably increases our risk of cancer and if it doesn't you could probably still find a study proving it does.
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This, 80% of the people are bound to get some kind of disease along the way, wheter its cancer, alzheimer,astma or whatever the fuk.

No point in worrying about it, just keep really bad stuff out of your body(too much alcohol, certain drugs and saturated fat)

Thats about the only thing you can really do to prevent A LIL bit
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When I grow old enough to get alzheimer's there with be not such thing as alzheimer's. So I will continue to eat 300g a day.

Alzheimer's doesn't make the government enough money so when a cure or a treatment is found it will be released to the public.
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This, 80% of the people are bound to get some kind of disease along the way, wheter its cancer, alzheimer,astma or whatever the fuk.

No point in worrying about it, just keep really bad stuff out of your body(too much alcohol, certain drugs and saturated fat)

Thats about the only thing you can really do to prevent A LIL bit
Pretty much this. Everyone considers it an epidemic of the past 30 years, but if you look at it -- back in the early 1900's even to the middle, the life expectancy was Vastly lower. Not only that, but we didn't have the tools to diagnose 90% of the illnesses we can today with MRI's, etc.

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lol, strong lack of education...
LOL...

you= 6 1/175 = strong lack of size
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you=21 = lack of experience and prob no college degree
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I also am very interested in alzheimers since my grandma has it and her mom had it...and so its in my family history... so I study and research all that I can on this subject..

thanks for your worthless comment... quit while you think you are ahead...
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