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    Need help choosing a new cycle

    I've cycled H-Drol twice, and I'm looking for something new. I want something that leans me out, while adding some mass, and obviously some strength gains would be nice. I'm leaning towards Epistane, since it's possibly the cheapest cycle for me to run, but I'm definitely open to different ideas. I was also thinking about an H-Drol or P-Mag/ Bold stack, but it's a bit more expensive and I kinda wanna try something other than H-Drol.
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    Im looking into ph's (not in a rush), what was ur hdrol cycle like and what were your gains?
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    Originally Posted by jp8811 View Post
    I've cycled H-Drol twice, and I'm looking for something new. I want something that leans me out, while adding some mass, and obviously some strength gains would be nice. I'm leaning towards Epistane, since it's possibly the cheapest cycle for me to run, but I'm definitely open to different ideas. I was also thinking about an H-Drol or P-Mag/ Bold stack, but it's a bit more expensive and I kinda wanna try something other than H-Drol.
    Hmmm.....from my research I would def agree with you about Havoc/E-stane (not Epistane, they had some bunk bottles), but I've never ran Havoc myself. P-mag is extremely similar to Hdrol so there's probably not much of a point in running that. I ran a Dymethazine cycle and I got great strength and mass gains, but it retains alot of water (bloat) so I wouldn't recommend it for leaning out. How did your Hdrol cycle go?
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    Originally Posted by vqw View Post
    Im looking into ph's (not in a rush), what was ur hdrol cycle like and what were your gains?
    1st one was good. I gained about 8 lbs and lost 1 maybe 2% bodyfat. The second one wasn't as good. I don't really remember how much I gained, but I remember leaning out a bit.
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    Originally Posted by ONtop888 View Post
    Hmmm.....from my research I would def agree with you about Havoc/E-stane (not Epistane, they had some bunk bottles), but I've never ran Havoc myself. P-mag is extremely similar to Hdrol so there's probably not much of a point in running that. I ran a Dymethazine cycle and I got great strength and mass gains, but it retains alot of water (bloat) so I wouldn't recommend it for leaning out. How did your Hdrol cycle go?
    Yeah I was gonna go with E-Stane. Previous post says my H-drol gains.

    I'm kind of torn between adding some LBM and just bulking like crazy. I lost a lot of weight after this summer due to a cut. I've really been struggling to get that weight back. I'm usually around 185-190 @ 15% bf in the winter. Now I just look gross lol... around 174 @ a little less than 15% body fat?
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    Originally Posted by jp8811 View Post
    Yeah I was gonna go with E-Stane. Previous post says my H-drol gains.

    I'm kind of torn between adding some LBM and just bulking like crazy.
    If you go the bulking route then I would recommend Dymethazine, but you need LOTS of supports because it is a little harsh on the body (from experience). You could also take a milder prohormone and stack it with 11 oxo for some lean gains.
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    Originally Posted by jp8811 View Post
    Yeah I was gonna go with E-Stane. Previous post says my H-drol gains.

    I'm kind of torn between adding some LBM and just bulking like crazy. I lost a lot of weight after this summer due to a cut. I've really been struggling to get that weight back. I'm usually around 185-190 @ 15% bf in the winter. Now I just look gross lol... around 174 @ a little less than 15% body fat?
    get proper PCT, use Lean xtreme in it, and run a E-stane cycle, that would probably do you right.
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    Originally Posted by ONtop888 View Post
    If you go the bulking route then I would recommend Dymethazine, but you need LOTS of supports because it is a little harsh on the body (from experience). You could also take a milder prohormone and stack it with 11 oxo for some lean gains.
    What were the results of your Dymethazine cycle?

    edit: Yeah I actually have Lean Extreme on hand, and PCT is all taken care of.
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    Originally Posted by jp8811 View Post
    What were the results of your Dymethazine cycle?

    edit: Yeah I actually have Lean Extreme on hand, and PCT is all taken care of.
    Here's my log for it: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=113537731

    I put on 11 lbs, pumps and strength was through the roof, almost unreal.
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    Originally Posted by ONtop888 View Post
    Here's my log for it: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=113537731

    I put on 11 lbs, pumps and strength was through the roof, almost unreal.
    Lookin' huge bro.

    I think I'm gonna go with the E-stane. It looks like it's the cheapest option and money is kinda tight right now.
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    Originally Posted by jp8811 View Post
    Lookin' huge bro.

    I think I'm gonna go with the E-stane. It looks like it's the cheapest option and money is kinda tight right now.
    thanks bro. Absolutely, let me know if you decide to log it I'll follow along.
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    Originally Posted by jp8811 View Post
    I've cycled H-Drol twice, and I'm looking for something new. I want something that leans me out, while adding some mass, and obviously some strength gains would be nice. I'm leaning towards Epistane, since it's possibly the cheapest cycle for me to run, but I'm definitely open to different ideas. I was also thinking about an H-Drol or P-Mag/ Bold stack, but it's a bit more expensive and I kinda wanna try something other than H-Drol.
    Hey JP,

    I'm actually starting my second cycle of Decabolen after a 6 month break due to the better than expected results. I'm 2 weeks in and have already put on a few extra pounds of mass. Not including a little wet and diet weight. It's a pretty rough cocktail of PH's.. but if done correctly, assuming you have the appropriate support supps and PCT, you'll love the results.

    I've attached my 6 week cycle and PCT schedule
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    Originally Posted by Krypto1 View Post
    Hey JP,

    I'm actually starting my second cycle of Decabolen after a 6 month break due to the better than expected results. I'm 2 weeks in and have already put on a few extra pounds of mass. Not including a little wet and diet weight. It's a pretty rough cocktail of PH's.. but if done correctly, assuming you have the appropriate support supps and PCT, you'll love the results.

    I've attached my 6 week cycle and PCT schedule
    Thanks for the heads up. Looks like a lot of methylated compounds in this here PH. I thought about Pro Stanivar and even stacking H-Drol with Epistane, but I'm not sure how my body will react to so many methyls.
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    Originally Posted by jp8811 View Post
    Thanks for the heads up. Looks like a lot of methylated compounds in this here PH. I thought about Pro Stanivar and even stacking H-Drol with Epistane, but I'm not sure how my body will react to so many methyls.
    That's affirmative... your going to want to load up significantly before cycling and sustain the support throughout... AND stay away from the drink. I hear tonic and lime looks cool at the bar lol
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    One more note.... Decabolen is definitely not for first time users!
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    Originally Posted by Krypto1 View Post
    Hey JP,

    I'm actually starting my second cycle of Decabolen after a 6 month break due to the better than expected results. I'm 2 weeks in and have already put on a few extra pounds of mass. Not including a little wet and diet weight. It's a pretty rough cocktail of PH's.. but if done correctly, assuming you have the appropriate support supps and PCT, you'll love the results.

    I've attached my 6 week cycle and PCT schedule
    are you talking about the steroid deca or is this a PH/DS that is named after it? If it's the later, then what is the main ingredient/compound?
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    Originally Posted by jp8811 View Post
    Thanks for the heads up. Looks like a lot of methylated compounds in this here PH. I thought about Pro Stanivar and even stacking H-Drol with Epistane, but I'm not sure how my body will react to so many methyls.
    No, def don't stack multiple methyls. Prob won't kill you, but it's a bad idea IMO, better off getting good gains that don't come at a detrimental cost to your body later down the road when your 40. E-stane is supposed to be more potent than Hdrol, so you should be straight running it on its own, and as you said the price is right.
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    are you talking about the steroid deca or is this a PH/DS that is named after it? If it's the later, then what is the main ingredient/compound?
    Halodrol/Superdrol compound stack

    4-chloro-17a-methyl-andro-4-ene-3,17b-diol 25mg
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    Originally Posted by Krypto1 View Post
    Halodrol/Superdrol compound stack

    4-chloro-17a-methyl-andro-4-ene-3,17b-diol 25mg
    2a, 17a-dimethyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androstan-3-one 5mg
    2a, 17a-dimethyletiollocholan-3-one, 17b-ol 5mg
    interesting, that sounds pretty potent. How long are you running it for? I'm going on a hdrol/11 oxo cycle for recomp, superdrol is a little too much for me, lol. Good progress on your cycle though, I bet your strength will go hit the through on this.
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