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    What exactly is the deal with the cell tech/supplement/whatever you're taking? I'm honestly not trolling, I know next to nothing about supplements.
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    Originally Posted by nvrstopworking View Post
    Cool. Thanks for the input. Any foods that you could recommend that could up the carbs?
    whole wheat bread, rice, potatoes, banana's, milk

    im starting to think a carb is a carb, that the only real difference is the rate that its digested and gets into your blood stream, and that fructose/dextrose is kind of splitting hairs. so really any carbs would work, if i were you i would just try to choose sources that give you even energy instead of a big boost and then low blood sugar in a hour

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    What exactly is the deal with the cell tech/supplement/whatever you're taking? I'm honestly not trolling, I know next to nothing about supplements.
    im just taking stimulants to help burn fat
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    Hey BS,

    I just tried to PM you but your inbox is full.

    I took the outline of your deadlift peaking program and made up an excel calculator with it. I made only a slight change and used percentages to calculate all the #'s.

    Do you have an email that I could send it to? I was hoping you would look it over and give me some feedback on it. Plus, its yours anyway I just made a slight change, haha.

    I think it turned out pretty well using the percentages etc....

    Or I could just copy paste it in a post using my own #'s, so you can see it.
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    Gotcha bro.

    Your subconscious must be thinking about tren

    Also, just a thought, but personally if I were you I would wait till you get to where you want to be BF wise, then get on the M-Drol and BULK.
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    Originally Posted by PhreEkGarden View Post
    Hey BS,

    I just tried to PM you but your inbox is full.

    I took the outline of your deadlift peaking program and made up an excel calculator with it. I made only a slight change and used percentages to calculate all the #'s.

    Do you have an email that I could send it to? I was hoping you would look it over and give me some feedback on it. Plus, its yours anyway I just made a slight change, haha.

    I think it turned out pretty well using the percentages etc....

    Or I could just copy paste it in a post using my own #'s, so you can see it.
    badass man

    babyslayer1991@hotmail.com, i never check my email, so leme know on here if/when you send it

    il delete some pm's too

    Originally Posted by dopamine72 View Post
    Gotcha bro.

    Your subconscious must be thinking about tren

    Also, just a thought, but personally if I were you I would wait till you get to where you want to be BF wise, then get on the M-Drol and BULK.
    lol yeah i had tren on my mind, someone was telling me to use it the other day

    and yeah that would probably be best, to use m-drol to bulk instead of cut, but for now i just want to get lean, im so close to it, that i think with m-drol i can make it happen in like 6 weeks from now










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    315x5/225x4/135x8 (drop set)

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    Originally Posted by babyslayer View Post
    badass man

    babyslayer1991@hotmail.com, i never check my email, so leme know on here if/when you send it

    il delete some pm's too
    Sent the email.... just respond here or in a PM. My last day at work is tomorrow so I won't have this email anymore.
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    Originally Posted by watermelonbrah View Post
    Amazing benching man!
    thanks man

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    Sent the email.... just respond here or in a PM. My last day at work is tomorrow so I won't have this email anymore.
    i didnt get the email for some reason, or i didnt see it if i did get it

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    Post more vids like your late night rant.
    i probably will, but it will be hard to live up to the last one, people really seemed to like that













    mowed my lawn in a fasted state this morning, just did some more cardio, getting all my protein from whey, and all my carbs from honey, (eating foods that dont bloat me) i hope to ****ing god i can get that 40" waist tomorrow, because today when i woke up i felt a bit bloated and so couldnt get it to 40"


    took a fat burner that i got as a sample,been taking yohimbe/green tea/clen/caffeine, and cinnamon/chromium

    gonna probably do more cardio later, and im gonna do stomach vacuums here in a few minutes.

    fingers crossed, last time i had my waist at 40" i was 15 years old, and i was slightly cheating, where as this time il be blowing my belly out as big as i can get it.

    ****ing. fingers. crossed.
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    I sent the email again. I think it didn't go through when I was at work....
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    Just checking in to say the deficit deads you awared me on have paid off.

    Got a massive PR today and repped out 405 for 2 sets of 5. Could have gotten at least 2 more on the first set. This was only after about 4-5 sessions of 5" deficits with a 3x3 scheme, then a lighter weight conventional rep out.

    I also did this with a sore lower back from a previous sqauts session. Thanks brah.
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    Originally Posted by PhreEkGarden View Post
    I sent the email again. I think it didn't go through when I was at work....
    i got it this time, looks good man, kick ass

    ideally tho id say the last few jumps in weight (480 to 540 to 600, might have another workout placed in there like

    480/525/565/605- 650x1

    but other than that it looks really good

    Originally Posted by dopamine72 View Post
    Just checking in to say the deficit deads you awared me on have paid off.

    Got a massive PR today and repped out 405 for 2 sets of 5. Could have gotten at least 2 more on the first set. This was only after about 4-5 sessions of 5" deficits with a 3x3 scheme, then a lighter weight conventional rep out.

    I also did this with a sore lower back from a previous sqauts session. Thanks brah.
    awesome man, glad they are working well for you

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    got my waist a lil under 40" a few mins ago

    felt a little emotional lol

    starting m-drol today
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    Originally Posted by babyslayer View Post
    got my waist a lil under 40" a few mins ago

    felt a little emotional lol

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    lol!

    yes, god help us all...

    who measure their waist fully blown though....wtf...i dont even want to know what i am that way.
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    Originally Posted by Mvick07 View Post
    lol!

    yes, god help us all...

    who measure their waist fully blown though....wtf...i dont even want to know what i am that way.
    Yeah, same. Give us a sucked in measurement, BS. Congrats on the sub-40, gotta feel great after being called a fat loser all that time to have your waist that size when you push out. Looks small on your frame, man. Not like you need to be told, but keep it up.
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    Originally Posted by babyslayer View Post
    i got it this time, looks good man, kick ass

    ideally tho id say the last few jumps in weight (480 to 540 to 600, might have another workout placed in there like

    480/525/565/605- 650x1

    but other than that it looks really good
    You are probably right, but my reasoning for making the 10% jump (480-540) is because you drop the squats and are fresh for the 540, then the next week is a 5% jump to 570(last week of deficits, before the 600). Basing off my numbers, I think I would be able to hit a few reps with a 540 deficit, then 1 or 2 with 570... then the next two weeks is regular deads from the floor. Hopefully 3 or so with 600, then the last week pull 650.
    (I assume from what you said about 480-540-600 you didnt notice the 570 in there)

    Anyway, it's just me screwing around with %'s to make an excel spreadsheet, and wondering if it works with other peoples #'s whether they are higher or lower than mine.
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    Originally Posted by babyslayer View Post
    got my waist a lil under 40" a few mins ago

    felt a little emotional lol

    starting m-drol today
    Congrats man. Mind measuring your waist while you're sucking it in too? Interested to see the difference. And do you think stomach vacuums helped with it? I may start doing them too when I start my cut.
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    Originally Posted by babyslayer View Post
    got my waist a lil under 40" a few mins ago

    felt a little emotional lol

    starting m-drol today
    measured 39.5 inch waist at 260 is impressive actually.
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    Originally Posted by Mvick07 View Post
    lol!

    yes, god help us all...

    who measure their waist fully blown though....wtf...i dont even want to know what i am that way.
    lol, i arch my lower back and lean backwards a bit, and just kinda push my belly out.

    i could get my waist measurement bigger if i leaned forwards and stuff.

    Originally Posted by rubik_3x3x3 View Post
    Yeah, same. Give us a sucked in measurement, BS. Congrats on the sub-40, gotta feel great after being called a fat loser all that time to have your waist that size when you push out. Looks small on your frame, man. Not like you need to be told, but keep it up.
    thanks man, and yeah it feels pretty good to finally be under 40"

    but now that im getting used to seeing my self like this, the feeling of accomplishment and "wonder" is slowly going away lol.

    hopefully when i get leaner/bigger, il be happy with how im looking.

    i mean im happy, but just seem to be far from satisfied, even for the moment.

    Originally Posted by PhreEkGarden View Post
    You are probably right, but my reasoning for making the 10% jump (480-540) is because you drop the squats and are fresh for the 540, then the next week is a 5% jump to 570(last week of deficits, before the 600). Basing off my numbers, I think I would be able to hit a few reps with a 540 deficit, then 1 or 2 with 570... then the next two weeks is regular deads from the floor. Hopefully 3 or so with 600, then the last week pull 650.
    (I assume from what you said about 480-540-600 you didnt notice the 570 in there)

    Anyway, it's just me screwing around with %'s to make an excel spreadsheet, and wondering if it works with other peoples #'s whether they are higher or lower than mine.
    it will probably work, im never 100% sure of any program to be honest, because then i feel like im letting people down by telling them to do something and promising them results. because.. you never know, even smart/hard training doesnt pay off sometimes.

    the thing about the 60lb jumps after taking away the exercise that you do before deficits, is it may be too big of a jump. i like that program because it allows you to train with weights that will make you stronger, for a long period of time, before the weight gets so heavy that you get burned out. so ideally you would stretch the peaking out as long as you possibly could, while still using weights that you can gain strength/size from of course

    in the past the only way to add another 30lbs to the bar at that point, was to cut out the exercise that i did before hand, so adding 60 might be too much, and may speed up the program a little too much, giving you less time to get bigger/stronger.

    but thats really dependant on how you feel, how light the weights are to you at the time, etc.

    id say ideally for a 600lb deadlift, youd make 30lbs jumps from something like 365 on deficit deadlifts. for a 500lb deadlift or less, something like 15-30lb jumps depending on how heavy the weight is.

    ^ but thats just what id say, its different for everyone im sure. smaller jumps might mean less progress, because you could end up training too close to ur max for too long of a time. etc


    Originally Posted by Bruno93 View Post
    Congrats man. Mind measuring your waist while you're sucking it in too? Interested to see the difference. And do you think stomach vacuums helped with it? I may start doing them too when I start my cut.
    il measure it like that tomorrow morning too, to see the difference

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    cool
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    taking the day off training, eating a lot of clean carbs, low fat/protein

    gonna do cardio 3-4x today (walking) and im gonna do stomach vacuums in a bit.

    already did 2 sessions of cardio today.



    ^ to who ever asked me if stomach vacuums have been helping, im not sure, but it sure seems like they are helping. my stomach seems to hold its self in on its own, kind of
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    it will probably work, im never 100% sure of any program to be honest, because then i feel like im letting people down by telling them to do something and promising them results. because.. you never know, even smart/hard training doesnt pay off sometimes.

    the thing about the 60lb jumps after taking away the exercise that you do before deficits, is it may be too big of a jump. i like that program because it allows you to train with weights that will make you stronger, for a long period of time, before the weight gets so heavy that you get burned out. so ideally you would stretch the peaking out as long as you possibly could, while still using weights that you can gain strength/size from of course

    in the past the only way to add another 30lbs to the bar at that point, was to cut out the exercise that i did before hand, so adding 60 might be too much, and may speed up the program a little too much, giving you less time to get bigger/stronger.

    but thats really dependant on how you feel, how light the weights are to you at the time, etc.

    id say ideally for a 600lb deadlift, youd make 30lbs jumps from something like 365 on deficit deadlifts. for a 500lb deadlift or less, something like 15-30lb jumps depending on how heavy the weight is.

    ^ but thats just what id say, its different for everyone im sure. smaller jumps might mean less progress, because you could end up training too close to ur max for too long of a time. etc
    You're probably right.... I could just take out that last week of the same weight but 2 sets of it, and just make 30 lb jumps instead of that one 60 lb jump. The first 4 weeks or so is plenty with doing the same weight 2 weeks in a row but 2 sets on the following week.

    I'll make that change, and you don't mind if I post it do you? I'm going to run it myself and would probably post it in my journal. I have a feeling other people would like to try it since it is inspired by you.
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    Originally Posted by babyslayer View Post
    got my waist a lil under 40" a few mins ago

    felt a little emotional lol

    starting m-drol today
    amazing

    its ok to feel emotional you have put in years of hard work, you train harder and have sacrificed more then a majority of people on this site-all of which are fairly dedicated to lifting as well- while taking lots of verbal abuse for years from many posters in the teen section.

    The results of your hard work are really showing now and you truly have achieved exceptional results that most of the population of those who do train will never reach.
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    Originally Posted by PhreEkGarden View Post
    You're probably right.... I could just take out that last week of the same weight but 2 sets of it, and just make 30 lb jumps instead of that one 60 lb jump. The first 4 weeks or so is plenty with doing the same weight 2 weeks in a row but 2 sets on the following week.

    I'll make that change, and you don't mind if I post it do you? I'm going to run it myself and would probably post it in my journal. I have a feeling other people would like to try it since it is inspired by you.
    my one worry is that it wont work for people, and then il have wasted their time

    but yeah go ahead and post it man, its really cool of you to make that

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    amazing

    its ok to feel emotional you have put in years of hard work, you train harder and have sacrificed more then a majority of people on this site-all of which are fairly dedicated to lifting as well- while taking lots of verbal abuse for years from many posters in the teen section.

    The results of your hard work are really showing now and you truly have achieved exceptional results that most of the population of those who do train will never reach.
    thanks man, hopefully the progress wont stop, or will even pick up speed now that im on m-drol, and i can finally get lean

    i just hope loose skin doesnt **** things up
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    Are you in the process of cutting for a comp or what?
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    Originally Posted by watermelonbrah View Post
    Are you in the process of cutting for a comp or what?
    i considered it, regardless im trying to get a full 6 pack, and single digit bodyfat
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    i considered it, regardless im trying to get a full 6 pack, and single digit bodyfat
    Ah I gotcha. You should do a comp, you'd probably do really well.
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    Originally Posted by watermelonbrah View Post
    Ah I gotcha. You should do a comp, you'd probably do really well.
    i might, if i think i look good enough

    /fasted cardio this morning
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    gonna do cardio 1-2 more times today, stomach vacuums, and probably calves


    im taking tomorrow off too, want to be rested up for this cycle, because i havent taken many off days in a long time.
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    babyslayer, how often do you do cardio? I'm currently on a cut, and do cardio once a week. Run about a half mile around the track in my gym. Don't really think I'm doin enough, although diet is the more important thing of course.
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    Originally Posted by Juggernaut0 View Post
    babyslayer, how often do you do cardio? I'm currently on a cut, and do cardio once a week. Run about a half mile around the track in my gym. Don't really think I'm doin enough, although diet is the more important thing of course.
    im honestly starting to think that the more low intensity cardio you do, the better

    like you can literally walk off lbs of fat, and so now im doing cardio 2-4x a day, just going for a walk for like 20-45 minutes

    sometimes i do none if im not super motivated to drop fat as fast as possible, usually 1-2 up until recently
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