Calling all OL'ers......:)

[ftwrestler]

He's so strong standing up in a snatch won't do ****. He squats like a million lbs already. If anything I can see elite lifters doing that to conserve energy for the 1st and 2nd pulls. That first half of the snatch is what they can always work on.

For us anything helps

im pretty sure my patner is not an elite lifter lol

nor am i by any stretch but, it drive me crazy. in my head i am screaming "finish the lift"

[dr.manhattan]

this one

it drives me crazy even when i see klokov do it

Ohhh... Well then in that case I don't think it's a big deal. Standing with a snatch should be a piece of cake, and taking the time to stand up and then drop and reset for the second or even third rep is time consuming and wastes energy for the important part of doing dubs or trips. At least that's my opinion.

[GoJu]

so i met a guy who does not stand up while doing multiple snatch sets. he catches it and then does not stand up then resets.

he said he is not wasting precious energy standing up with snatches and does not want to train too fatigued

mind=blown. that sounds so ridiculous to me

That's what the polish do when they want to perform reps on the snatch.

[matjusm]

bottom up ovh squats if you have jerk blocks

if you dont snatch balances

if you have both, do them both.

Already doing snatch balances, also full snatching 2x a week so I'm hitting rock bottom overhead squats 3x a week.

To quote John Broz:

"We never do [overhead squats] as an exercise. If you snatch it and cant get up (pinned with a snatch) you would get laughed out of the gym or banished to the squat rack for 30 days."



But seriousness, that is very weird considering your BS number. Have you been eating and sleeping properly?

Yes, been eating and sleeping well. Though when this fail of mine happened, I'd been snatching for a while with very heavy weights so I guess I had some fatigue in me.

[ftwrestler]

That's what the polish do when they want to perform reps on the snatch.

seems like a waste of a chance to build better core strength and perform reps under a fatigued state.

[DaTruth1]

seems like a waste of a chance to build better core strength and perform reps under a fatigued state.

TBH I think the main reason they do that is because if they drop the bar as they stand up with it, you can catch it at your hips and waste less time re-adjusting between reps. If you stand up with it completely, you kinda have to drop the bar and then redo your straps. If you don't use straps on multiple reps I guess it would make more sense to stand up with all of your reps.

[DaTruth1]

New PRs. First time maxing out since my last competition.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvJ1TtsPvTM

[Reidy]

My God Aramnau is so gross looking. Kind of annoys me he's got a gold medal and Klokov/Akkaev don't.

Nice lifting DaTruth.

[dbk1]

New PRs. First time maxing out since my last competition.

how are your jerks so much easier than your cleans
TELL ME YOUR SECRET

got absolutely crushed b squatting 150 yesterday, I don't think my legs have been this weak since june and yet I'm still hitting weights in the classic lifts on a regular basis (if by regular you mean the one day a week i can snatch + cl&j) that I would have been lucky to get on a good day in mid august when i was my strongest. Da ****? One more week and I can start oly lifting regularly again.
**** just weighed myself and Ive dropped 5 pounds
dat dere vodka and steak diet

[DaTruth1]

how are your jerks so much easier than your cleans
TELL ME YOUR SECRET

got absolutely crushed b squatting 150 yesterday, I don't think my legs have been this weak since june and yet I'm still hitting weights in the classic lifts on a regular basis (if by regular you mean the one day a week i can snatch + cl&j) that I would have been lucky to get on a good day in mid august when i was my strongest. Da ****? One more week and I can start oly lifting regularly again.
**** just weighed myself and Ive dropped 5 pounds
dat dere vodka and steak diet

I think I just have short arms man. My cleans suck so much though so it is not like my jerks are that great, they only seem that way in comparison. I have probly missed less than 4 or 5 jerks ever since I started split-jerking (I tried power/squat jerking for the first month of weightlifting).

[DaTruth1]

My God Aramnau is so gross looking. Kind of annoys me he's got a gold medal and Klokov/Akkaev don't.

Nice lifting DaTruth.

It annoys you because he looks like ****? I think that makes it so much better. Comparing Stoitsov to Sagir is even funnier.

[dbk1]

I think I just have short arms man. My cleans suck so much though so it is not like my jerks are that great, they only seem that way in comparison. I have probly missed less than 4 or 5 jerks ever since I started split-jerking (I tried power/squat jerking for the first month of weightlifting).

wat

[DaTruth1]

wat

If you don't count press-outs or dumping the bar after a clean because I am about to pass out, I only remember ever missing one jerk. It was the first time I did clean and jerk triples and I missed the last jerk because I was exhausted. I remember it because I essentially never miss jerks. If I can clean it, I am 100% confident I can jerk it.

[jagboy]

My God Aramnau is so gross looking. Kind of annoys me he's got a gold medal and Klokov/Akkaev don't.

Nice lifting DaTruth.

I actually prefer Aramnaus look tbh. maybe its cause im about his height, and wouldnt want to look overly muscled and jacked and be so short if i ever got 200+. prefer the muscle fat look.

also its cool that hes an elite lifter, but looks like a fat kid, and reminds me of this





plus good job Truth, totaling with the big boys now

[DaTruth1]

^

[Reidy]

Does anybody else train at a mostly powerlifting-specific gym? As one of the few who primarily focus on weightlifting in my gym, I sometimes feel like a minority there and that the PL bros look down on us.

Which got me thinking... what would the top-tier weightlifters total if they tried their hand in a powerlifting competition? I'd have to think some of them would total over 2,000 lbs which could put them up there with any of the strongest powerlifters on the planet. Conversely, does anybody think Stan Efferding or Eric Lillibridge could snatch 200 kg?

[ftwrestler]

TBH I think the main reason they do that is because if they drop the bar as they stand up with it, you can catch it at your hips and waste less time re-adjusting between reps. If you stand up with it completely, you kinda have to drop the bar and then redo your straps. If you don't use straps on multiple reps I guess it would make more sense to stand up with all of your reps.

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i never use straps really. yet i should say. It is a legitimate train of thought to not stand up, i could see the logic but i still think it is crazy to not get the work in

[ftwrestler]

I think I just have short arms man. My cleans suck so much though so it is not like my jerks are that great, they only seem that way in comparison. I have probly missed less than 4 or 5 jerks ever since I started split-jerking (I tried power/squat jerking for the first month of weightlifting).

you under-pull so hard on your cleans. If you put a little more on your 2nd pull it would make standing up so much easier. It looks like you rack it really far forward on your shoulder. Solid ****ing lifting for sure, just on the cleans i noticed that.

anyone else see it?

[scarboro]

^Yeah his pull on the cleans seems weak compared to how easily he jerks and how high he pulls the snatches. His pull under speed right at the bottom is very fast though i'm jelly.

[LudiWithKnives]

http://www.********.com/MarkhamStrength

this is my new gym (Y)

scarboro youre welcome to come lift too if you want but you lift at VV right? and thats much better anyways lol

my friend owns this gym, hes gotta make it a crossfit affiliate or else he wont make any money..... so i understand. hes made a little weightlifting corner for me and a couple others who actually weightlift. which includes a platform, jerk boxes, blackjack bar, and rogue comp plates that are coming but i have all the other stuff to play with too lol

Does anybody else train at a mostly powerlifting-specific gym? As one of the few who primarily focus on weightlifting in my gym, I sometimes feel like a minority there and that the PL bros look down on us.

Which got me thinking... what would the top-tier weightlifters total if they tried their hand in a powerlifting competition? I'd have to think some of them would total over 2,000 lbs which could put them up there with any of the strongest powerlifters on the planet. Conversely, does anybody think Stan Efferding or Eric Lillibridge could snatch 200 kg?

thats actually really funny because i feel everyone looks up to weightlifting. everyone knows that powerlifting is just a raw static strength 'event' (lol not saying sport) where as weightlifting/strongman requires finesse. i hear most people rank it from strong man > weightlifting > powerlifting. pretty much anybody can do PL but WL and SM has that skill component that PL seems to lack.

inb4 ****storm and negs.....

there are some retired weightlifters that have gone into powerlifting and they do fine except they do the lifts differently. benching is pretty much the same but squatting and deadlifting are different. theyre so used to squatting highbar atg that they do the same for PL, which 'hinders' their potential but its the way they perform the best. same thing for deadlifts because they dont deadlift and our clean set up is different from the deadlift.

misha is one that comes to mind who does all 3 sports

most powerlifters will have a hard time switching to weightlifting because theyre too used to using their upper body strength and will often press out on the classic lifts

[forcefedfreak]

Got a roman chair for the home gym. Going to start building jerk blocks today. Engage full Chinese training mode.

[ftwrestler]

Got a roman chair for the home gym. Going to start building jerk blocks today. Engage full Chinese training mode.

brb abandoning my life

[schabowy90]

Got a roman chair for the home gym. Going to start building jerk blocks today. Engage full Chinese training mode.

I have one too. So nice to polish off your workout with some weighted roman chair stupa

[scarboro]

http://www.********.com/MarkhamStrength

this is my new gym (Y)

scarboro youre welcome to come lift too if you want but you lift at VV right? and thats much better anyways lol

I train at the UofT gym brah. How much is this gym monthly btw? I probably wouldn't be interested but i've got some friends who may and maybe even my sister lol. (She wants to crossfit)

[jb4476]

Anyone else seen this? It was put up recently. Maxim Matveev FS 270 @ 105

[WHT_LIGHTNING]

Something unbelievable just happened:

Was maxing out on snatches yesterday and finally snatched that magical 100kg...but I was unable to stand up with it! I racked the weight just fine, stabilized it and tried coming up several times but just couldn't, I just couldn't squat it up.

I've snatched and squatted 100kg from blocks before and my best front and back squat are 145/160kg respectively but for some reason this relatively light weight proved to be too much for my legs. I would never have thought that squat strength would become a limiting factor in the snatch.


Due to stability issues I'm no good at catching the bounce on the snatch yet, I always sink down, stabilize the weight and then come up. With cleans I'm practicing catching the weight and now I'm starting to get it on most lifts.

Anyway, does anyone have any recommendations on how to not get pinned in the bottom of a snatch, aside from the standard "get your squat up" advice?

was it 1 of those things where every time you went to stand, the weight drifted thus causing you to not stand????????????

If not, mind=blown.

I have a fought a snatch for no **** like 16 seconds and still stood with it, lol.




1:19 in is an example, lol. Sometimes the mothereffer just wants to move on you

[WHT_LIGHTNING]

holy f at that front skwat by Maxim

[DaTruth1]

^Yeah his pull on the cleans seems weak compared to how easily he jerks and how high he pulls the snatches. His pull under speed right at the bottom is very fast though i'm jelly.

Yeah, cleans feel really awkward for me, I can never get a good feeling extension. My front squat is still more limiting than my pull so I have been focusing a bit more on that but I guess I should be working on both.

[schabowy90]

hey guize check out if your snatch n clean ratio sucks

http://www.qwa.org/Liftstats/calculatesnatchcj.asp

[dr.manhattan]

DaTruth: Great snatches and great jerks mate. Mirin' the snatches real hard.

But jesus man... get that second pull in the clean down!