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    Yes, the top tier schools in the US are ~50k a year. Nonetheless, I am happy with the choice I made given the educational opportunity that it presented. One of my terms of freshman chemistry and one term of freshman physics (not even specialist classes, just general requirement frosh classes) were taught by people who had won the Nobel prize. The Institute has really nothing in the way of entry level classes. By class level, you are in grad school by the time you are a sophomore. The general education requirements that all students must take are so extensive that I actually have a physics degree. I'm not a physics major. I hate physics and yet I have, by necessity, taken enough to get a degree in physics. The reason I can hang out here is because I'm still on summer break. We don't start until October 1st. Also I'm a rising senior and already finished with all my major requirements. So all those nights of staying up until 6 am consecutively with far too much work have long passed. Last year I was in 5 grad level math classes at the same time.
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    Originally Posted by jb4476 View Post
    Yes, the top tier schools in the US are ~50k a year. Nonetheless, I am happy with the choice I made given the educational opportunity that it presented. One of my terms of freshman chemistry and one term of freshman physics (not even specialist classes, just general requirement frosh classes) were taught by people who had won the Nobel prize. The Institute has really nothing in the way of entry level classes. By class level, you are in grad school by the time you are a sophomore. The general education requirements that all students must take are so extensive that I actually have a physics degree. I'm not a physics major. I hate physics and yet I have, by necessity, taken enough to get a degree in physics. The reason I can hang out here is because I'm still on summer break. We don't start until October 1st. Also I'm a rising senior and already finished with all my major requirements. So all those nights of staying up until 6 am consecutively with far too much work have long passed. Last year I was in 5 grad level math classes at the same time.
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    Originally Posted by jb4476 View Post
    Yes, the top tier schools in the US are ~50k a year. Nonetheless, I am happy with the choice I made given the educational opportunity that it presented. One of my terms of freshman chemistry and one term of freshman physics (not even specialist classes, just general requirement frosh classes) were taught by people who had won the Nobel prize. The Institute has really nothing in the way of entry level classes. By class level, you are in grad school by the time you are a sophomore. The general education requirements that all students must take are so extensive that I actually have a physics degree. I'm not a physics major. I hate physics and yet I have, by necessity, taken enough to get a degree in physics. The reason I can hang out here is because I'm still on summer break. We don't start until October 1st. Also I'm a rising senior and already finished with all my major requirements. So all those nights of staying up until 6 am consecutively with far too much work have long passed. Last year I was in 5 grad level math classes at the same time.
    Just noticed in your av, your knees look like they are locked out. Have you tried cutting your extension a bit short, and focus on extending mostly the hips rather than a triple extension? I have heard people refer to that as Catapulting. I find that keeping the weight on the heels, pull the bar HARD into your hips, and extending backwards allows me to get the most pop and be way quicker under the bar. You might be overpulling and making the 3rd pull harder to initiate.
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    Originally Posted by jb4476 View Post
    Yes, the top tier schools in the US are ~50k a year. Nonetheless, I am happy with the choice I made given the educational opportunity that it presented. One of my terms of freshman chemistry and one term of freshman physics (not even specialist classes, just general requirement frosh classes) were taught by people who had won the Nobel prize. The Institute has really nothing in the way of entry level classes. By class level, you are in grad school by the time you are a sophomore. The general education requirements that all students must take are so extensive that I actually have a physics degree. I'm not a physics major. I hate physics and yet I have, by necessity, taken enough to get a degree in physics. The reason I can hang out here is because I'm still on summer break. We don't start until October 1st. Also I'm a rising senior and already finished with all my major requirements. So all those nights of staying up until 6 am consecutively with far too much work have long passed. Last year I was in 5 grad level math classes at the same time.
    I don't know how Caltech is organized, but how can you have most of the physics degree unless you were engineering or math? You've done E&M, quantum, thermo, and mechanics? I don't know how you can be doing Jackson level E&M problems in sophomore undergard but then again I'm not going to Caltech, lol. Math major explains the physic hate though, lol. I'm guessing you've made Rudin your bitch by now, haha. Grad level math sounds fun, PDE's, Linear, Analysis and the like I'm guessing?
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    Originally Posted by GoJu View Post
    I don't know how Caltech is organized, but how can you have most of the physics degree unless you were engineering or math?
    I'm in math but even if I wasn't I would end up with having completed the same physics requirements. All students have to take single and multivariable calculus, linear algebra, stastics and probability and ordinary differential equations.

    Originally Posted by GoJu
    You've done E&M, quantum, thermo, and mechanics?
    Yes, exactly. We have five terms of core requirement physics that all students must take. Mechanics, two terms of relativistic E&M, quantum/waves and stat mech.

    Originally Posted by GoJu

    I don't know how you can be doing Jackson level E&M problems in sophomore undergard but then again I'm not going to Caltech, lol. Math major explains the physic hate though, lol. I'm guessing you've made Rudin your bitch by now, haha.
    Yes and yes. I didn't like Analysis either.

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    Grad level math sounds fun, PDE's, Linear, Analysis and the like I'm guessing?
    As far as undergrad level math classes go, all math majors have to take one year long course each of Analysis, algebraic/differential topology, abstract algebra and discrete math. You have a lot of freedom beyond that. For grad level classes I chose to take algebraic number theory (class field theory), algebraic geometry, axiomatic set theory/mathematical logic, complexity theory, further algebra.
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    Originally Posted by jb4476 View Post
    Yes, the top tier schools in the US are ~50k a year. Nonetheless, I am happy with the choice I made given the educational opportunity that it presented. One of my terms of freshman chemistry and one term of freshman physics (not even specialist classes, just general requirement frosh classes) were taught by people who had won the Nobel prize. The Institute has really nothing in the way of entry level classes. By class level, you are in grad school by the time you are a sophomore. The general education requirements that all students must take are so extensive that I actually have a physics degree. I'm not a physics major. I hate physics and yet I have, by necessity, taken enough to get a degree in physics. The reason I can hang out here is because I'm still on summer break. We don't start until October 1st. Also I'm a rising senior and already finished with all my major requirements. So all those nights of staying up until 6 am consecutively with far too much work have long passed. Last year I was in 5 grad level math classes at the same time.
    lol. So what IS your major??

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    Originally Posted by DaTruth1 View Post
    Just noticed in your av, your knees look like they are locked out. Have you tried cutting your extension a bit short, and focus on extending mostly the hips rather than a triple extension? I have heard people refer to that as Catapulting. I find that keeping the weight on the heels, pull the bar HARD into your hips, and extending backwards allows me to get the most pop and be way quicker under the bar. You might be overpulling and making the 3rd pull harder to initiate.
    I should definitely try that. I've noticed that a lot of lifterss don't extend the knees so much.
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    Originally Posted by jb4476 View Post
    I'm in math but even if I wasn't I would end up with having completed the same physics requirements. All students have to take single and multivariable calculus, linear algebra, stastics and probability and ordinary differential equations.



    Yes, exactly. We have five terms of core requirement physics that all students must take. Mechanics, two terms of relativistic E&M, quantum/waves and stat mech.



    Yes and yes. I didn't like Analysis either.
    Calc 1-3, Linear, ODE's and Stats are standard for math, engineering and physics across most Unis. Unless it's an applied math program, most math majors I know don't really have to take any physics. If you don't like analysis than I'm guessing your thing is abstract algebra or geometry? I'm a physics + EE major but I've done some analysis and know enough math majors to have learned a bit by osmosis.
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    Originally Posted by GoJu View Post
    Calc 1-3, Linear, ODE's and Stats are standard for math, engineering and physics across most Unis.
    I know, but here ALL students have to take Calc 1-3, Linear, ODE and stats. Biology majors, premeds, Econ majors, whatever.


    Unless it's an applied math program, most math majors I know don't really have to take any physics.
    Caltech's admissions like to emphasize the fact that they insist that all students have to take mechanics, relativistic E&M, quantum and stat mech. As above, even if you were a Bio major you would still have to take all of that. It's not a pleasant experience, but at least everyone is in the same boat.

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    If you don't like analysis than I'm guessing your thing is abstract algebra or geometry? I'm a physics + EE major but I've done some analysis and know enough math majors to have learned a bit by osmosis.
    Yeah, I edited my response above after I saw your edit:

    As far as undergrad level math classes go, all math majors have to take one year long course each of Analysis, algebraic/differential topology, abstract algebra and discrete math. You have to take grad level classes too, but you have a lot of freedom beyond that. For grad level classes I chose to take algebraic number theory (class field theory), algebraic geometry, axiomatic set theory/mathematical logic, complexity theory, further algebra.
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    too much math talk ITT
    Math is cool brah.
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    Math is cool brah.
    all i really need to know is the order of operations for my major

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    Originally Posted by jb4476 View Post
    I know, but here ALL students have to take Calc 1-3, Linear, ODE and stats. Biology majors, premeds, Econ majors, whatever.



    Caltech's admissions like to emphasize the fact that they insist that all students have to take mechanics, relativistic E&M, quantum and stat mech. As above, even if you were a Bio major you would still have to take all of that. It's not a pleasant experience, but at least everyone is in the same boat.



    Yeah, I edited my response above after I saw your edit:

    As far as undergrad level math classes go, all math majors have to take one year long course each of Analysis, algebraic/differential topology, abstract algebra and discrete math. You have a lot of freedom beyond that. For grad level classes I chose to take algebraic number theory (class field theory), algebraic geometry, axiomatic set theory/mathematical logic, complexity theory, further algebra.
    I've heard this before about Caltech! I can understand Econ ontop of Engineering, Sci, and math but even Bio! Those are some well informed bio students!

    Damn, they're trying to turn everyone into little Feynman's there or something?

    Ah, I see, your tastes are pretty abstract compared to mine; I liked analysis personally, complex was really pretty and I want to read through Rudin when I get the time, doing E&M, quantum and a course in plasma physics now.
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    Originally Posted by GoJu View Post
    I've heard this before about Caltech! I can understand Econ ontop of Engineering, Sci, and math but even Bio! Those are some well informed bio students!

    Damn, they're trying to turn everyone into little Feynman's there or something?
    Basically yes. The requirements work the other way too. I had to take a full year of chemistry.


    Ah, I see, your tastes are pretty abstract compared to mine; I liked analysis personally, complex was really pretty and I want to read through Rudin when I get the time, doing E&M, quantum and a course in plasma physics now.
    I may have been a bit harsh, I did like Analysis and it is extremely useful and powerful, what put me off Analysis really badly was the gruesome measure theory stuff I had to do sophomore year. Then junior year I got to learn all about measure theory from the perspective of descriptive set theory (it turns out that measurable and analytic sets are actually really important from the perspective of descriptive set theory) and it made a million times more sense. It made no sense when I did it from the perspective of Analysis, it just looked like a steam train of awful definitions hurled together with impossible computations.

    I should have done plasma physics. I really liked the stat mech class, maybe the only one of the 5 terms of physics I really enjoyed, and I think it would be fun to do plasma physics. Have fun learning about it!
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    Basically yes. The requirements work the other way too. I had to take a full year of chemistry.



    I may have been a bit harsh, I did like Analysis and it is extremely useful and powerful, what put me off Analysis really badly was the gruesome measure theory stuff I had to do sophomore year. Then junior year I got to learn all about measure theory from the perspective of descriptive set theory (it turns out that measurable and analytic sets are actually really important from the perspective of descriptive set theory) and it made a million times more sense. It made no sense when I did it from the perspective of Analysis, it just looked like a steam train of awful definitions hurled together with impossible computations.

    I should have done plasma physics. I really liked the stat mech class, maybe the only one of the 5 terms of physics I really enjoyed, and I think it would be fun to do plasma physics. Have fun learning about it!
    I can understand that, that's how complex looked like at first.

    Yeah, the plasma class is all E&M, thermo, and then fluid mechanics later; I'm doing research in plasma so I was really looking forward to the class.

    I think you'll be having more fun than me though.
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    for all u math people. edumacate me on the practical uses of these maths. i are dum
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    The language of physics and engineering is math, linear algebra and differential equations describe physical (and sometimes non-physical) phenomena.

    You can model how gasses move out of a rocket and how economic markets change basically with the same maths. Just a few examples.
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    Originally Posted by GoJu View Post
    The language of physics and engineering is math, linear algebra and differential equations describe physical (and sometimes non-physical) phenomena.

    You can model how gasses move out of a rocket and how economic markets change basically with the same maths. Just a few examples.
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    Originally Posted by ftwrestler View Post
    too much math talk ITT
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    plan on taking the first Actuary P Exam in January, and the FM in the summer.

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    are they in abundance at Xfit gyms xfit bros?
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    freshmen girls get hotter every year
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    Originally Posted by feces99 View Post
    figured. I feel like n00b asking for form checks and asking about TE and catapult. time to go to smart forums lol.
    It's funny. The most abstract and difficult math can often have the most immediate, important and real world concern. Like this:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P_vs_NP

    This problem is crazy hard, among the six biggest open problems in the world (along with the other Millenium problems). If P=NP we would probably be so ****ed. Anyone could break RSA encryption if they wanted, which means nothing, nowhere would be safe. Anyone could read your email if they wanted. Anyone could break your bank account if they wanted. Everything, anywhere that is conducted by secure internet transaction would be broken. Fortunately, it's almost certainly false (reality would not make sense if P=NP).

    I think there's a movie being made about this. A group of scientists discover that P=NP but they have to keep it secret because if they didn't everyone would be ****ed. Or something like that. Oh yeah, here it is

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    Originally Posted by jagboy View Post
    Mathematics Major checking in

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    plan on taking the first Actuary P Exam in January, and the FM in the summer.

    3 Semester til I graduate. Feelsgoodman.




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    are they in abundance at Xfit gyms xfit bros?
    I **** you not, the other day a hot crossfit trainer asked me if I could help her with her Snatch. They all be mirin our ability to put weights over our heads that the dudes they are used to seeing struggle to do 50% of.
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    Originally Posted by DaTruth1 View Post
    I **** you not, the other day a hot crossfit trainer asked me if I could help her with her Snatch.
    Hehehe

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    I didn't even realize how funny it sounded until I told my buddy and he laughed for 2 minutes straight.
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    Originally Posted by DaTruth1 View Post
    I **** you not, the other day a hot crossfit trainer asked me if I could help her with her Snatch. They all be mirin our ability to put weights over our heads that the dudes they are used to seeing struggle to do 50% of.
    >tfw no xfit gym.
    >tfw only other dudes ask for help with their snatches.
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    ^ no xfit close? I live in a shhitty little town and there's like 4 crossfits here.
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    lucky you. i wanna be a physical therapist and will probably have to spend close to a decade in frekin college. maybe by the time im 30 ill be out of debt and start making money. college is a scam.
    by the time I'm 29 I should be done with dental school and in debt up to my eye balls...

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    ^^ College isn't subsidized by the govt in the states? How much is tuition for undergrad?
    at CSUN it's like $7,000 a year if you're in-state, like 20k a year if you're OOS. Don't even get me started on UC's, and REALLY don't get me started on private schools like USC...

    Oh yeah and if you want to go to med/dental school, brb $400,000 dollars in debt when you're out (for USC) (srs)

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    Wow, that's really expensive imo. Do you have to be pretty well-off to go to college then?
    Either well-off, dirt poor, or balsy enough to take out loans

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    Move to Canada. I'll have a gym built within the next 6-10 years.
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    Originally Posted by DaTruth1 View Post
    I **** you not, the other day a hot crossfit trainer asked me if I could help her with her Snatch. They all be mirin our ability to put weights over our heads that the dudes they are used to seeing struggle to do 50% of.
    So much this... I'm a ****ing noob at oly and I'm still snatching and c&j'ing more weight than most crossfit dudes in my gym lmao.

    And yes Jagboy, there's a metric ****ton of bomb crossfit chicks in crossfit gyms, and they all love to wear nothing but sports bras and tights
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    Originally Posted by huntito View Post
    And yes Jagboy, there's a metric ****ton of bomb crossfit chicks in crossfit gyms, and they all love to wear nothing but sports bras and tights
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