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Old 01-24-2007, 01:34 AM   #1
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Keeping sodium-intake down?

I've been going over the current foods that I eat, (via fitday) and it seems that my nutritional ratios are pretty clean. I eat at a 40/40/20 or 50/30/20 carb/protein/fat split everyday depending on some minor tweaks here and there.

However, I just looked @ the added up #'s and it seems as if my sodium intake is WAY up there with eating foods such as chicken (stewed), sandwich meat and cottage cheese. I also use spaghetti sauce to spruce up a couple of dishes when the calorie count allows for it.

I just wanted to know about any general information about too much sodium intake. Any advice or tips are gladly appreciated.

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Old 01-24-2007, 02:50 AM   #2
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sodium in a whole form is actually quite good to supplement into your diet. I have no idea what you usually eat, so i can't tell you whether you are taking too much or too little, however the normal salt that you get in most foods and your table salt is terrible for you. I think regular saltcontains something like 2 of the 80 or so minerals included in whole salt. It is pretty much useless and is very unhealthy. In fact it must be iodized to prevent it from turning pink, and the idiozation process (in which the salt is heated very high) makes it difficult to proccess the minerals.


never fear though, full salts such as Keltic Sea Salt and rock salt are full of many essential vitamins and minerals and i add a moderate pinch to my breakfast and postworkout shakes.

sodium is especially important after working out, especially after a cardio session because your electrolytes and other mineral stores become depleted (especially if you drink lots of water) through your sweat.

So yes it is good to have, you just need to stay away form normal table salt and go for the "whole salts" such as rock and sea salt.



to answer your question. I would say that you should really try to cut back on your intake. The kind of salt oyu are getting is probably doing more harm than help. Even if you can't eliminate it all, still try to find a good rock salt and add that into your diet.

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Old 01-24-2007, 02:56 AM   #3
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here's a quote from a website about the benefits of "good" salts i.e. rock salt


http://www.industryinet.com/~ruby/salt_truth.html

Salt, has been vilified and denigrated, despite the fact that it is essential to life. The Bible calls Jesus followers the salt of the Earth. Not a criticism, but a compliment. Salt licks are essential for cattle to maintain health and they die without it. Cattle will walk for miles to get to a salt lick.

Now when I speak of salt, I am referring to natural sea (or rock) salt, not table salt, which is merely sodium chloride (NaCl). It is table salt that is responsible for raising blood pressure and causing heart problems. Sea salt (Celtic) is the best form and contains many minerals, like magnesium, calcium, potassium, sodium, chloride, sulfate, phosphate and many other trace minerals. Sea salt does not raise blood pressure and is very health promoting.

The importance of trace minerals and electrolytes on our health cannot be stressed enough. Gillian Martlew, ND states, "Trace minerals and electrolytes are the spark of life, and without them we simply wouldn't function."

The terms electrolytes, ions, minerals, may be used as other terms for salt. She adds, "Electrolytes are ionized salts (minerals) found in body fluids and the blood stream. In solution, or dissolved and transformed in water, they can conduct an electric current."

"The whole body is a bioelectric organism and the nervous system and brain also operate on electrical energy. Electrolytes are both the switch and the energy source."

Dr Bernard Jensen stated, "All cellular structures become alive through electrolytic activity. Life begins with electrolytes. Trace minerals carry the life force in our bodies more than any other substance."

Salt adds minerals (ions) to our foods and enhances its flavor. Without salt, our body cannot make adequate amounts of HCl (stomach acid). With low levels of HCl, our digestion is impaired and we cannot absorb minerals. Minerals are needed for activating enzymes, and other important metabolic functions. Therefore, one can see the idiocy of taking antacids (or avoiding salt) which block mineral absorption. Low levels of HCl can be translated into disease quite easily, for without minerals one cannot be healthy. Salt is also needed to maintain osmotic balance (water), to control pH levels and to help activate enzymes. Salt serves as a natural buffer for acidity and through osmotic mechanisms, salt helps to control the amount of water within the cells (intra cellular fluid) and around the cells (extra cellular fluid).

Gillian Martlew, ND stated, "Electrolytes are essential to the production of enzymes, the function of cells, and in maintaining a normal pH balance in the body and digestive system. Electrolytes also maintain normal fluid balance including osmosis (the cells internal and external fluid pressure), and blood pressure."

Jaques de Langre, PhD, in his praise of sea salt, states, "... the oceans give us a natural sea salt with the most exquisite taste and a physiologically-vital mineral mix. Today, every common table salt is artificial and sadly pales beside the real sea salt. Out of the richest spectrum of 92 essential minerals found in the ocean, the industrial refined variety retains only two! Debased white table salt deserves all of its bad name and all the misdeeds as charged.

Therefore, do not confuse common refined table salt (sodium chloride) with natural unrefined (and health-promoting) sea salt. He continues, "Salt is the single element required for the proper breakdown of plant carbohydrates into usable and assimilable human food.
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Old 01-24-2007, 11:21 AM   #4
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ABSOLUTELY! Whole salt is an essential supplement. Whole salt and white table salt is so completely different that they shoulden't be the same thing. I use himalayan pink salt. I have 1/4 teaspon for every 1 litre of water I drink.
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Sea salt rocks. I used to literally eat/lick a palm-full of the coarse grained stuff after spending 90 minutes on my indoor cycling trainer and sweating off 5 pounds. Never had muscle cramps again once I started doing that.
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sodium in a whole form is actually quite good to supplement into your diet. I have no idea what you usually eat, so i can't tell you whether you are taking too much or too little, however the normal salt that you get in most foods and your table salt is terrible for you. I think regular saltcontains something like 2 of the 80 or so minerals included in whole salt. It is pretty much useless and is very unhealthy. In fact it must be iodized to prevent it from turning pink, and the idiozation process (in which the salt is heated very high) makes it difficult to proccess the minerals.


never fear though, full salts such as Keltic Sea Salt and rock salt are full of many essential vitamins and minerals and i add a moderate pinch to my breakfast and postworkout shakes.

sodium is especially important after working out, especially after a cardio session because your electrolytes and other mineral stores become depleted (especially if you drink lots of water) through your sweat.

So yes it is good to have, you just need to stay away form normal table salt and go for the "whole salts" such as rock and sea salt.



to answer your question. I would say that you should really try to cut back on your intake. The kind of salt oyu are getting is probably doing more harm than help. Even if you can't eliminate it all, still try to find a good rock salt and add that into your diet.
Most of my salt is definitely coming from the cottage cheese (I eat about a cup a day), and ham for lunch-time sandwiches.

I'll just assume I should find another source of meat other than the ham.
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I'll just assume I should find another source of meat other than the ham.

good idea. If you really want sliced meat go for some organic turkey, and try to find a brand that has very little else other thna meat in it.

Turkey=leaner than ham so you get more protein and less fat/cals for your buck


Personally i prefer bonless skinless chicken breast for most of my meals, i usually steam the meat (which doesn't taste all that great) or cook it for maybe 15 min on a skillett with some veggies.

You can find good brands of the bonless skinless chicken breast at most supermarkets, i prefer to go organic (allthough it is a little pricey), but it is just pure chicken so you don't have to worry about any of that ominous "10% added chicken flavor," or any nasty sodium.
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I think regular saltcontains something like 2 of the 80 or so minerals included in whole salt. .

I'm confused, salt=halite. What other minerals can it contain? Salt is salt is salt. Do you mean added chemicals?

edit: I looked up some whole salt sites .
"Celtic Sea Salt is hand-harvested, unprocessed, certified, a moist whole salt. It contains a natural balance of over 80 minerals. Some of these minerals include magnesium, sulfur, potassium, calcium, silicon, and iron."

Calcium isn't a mineral, potassium isn't a mineral, and neither is iron. They are chemical elements. I dunno if they mean it contains calcite (CaCO3) or some kind of potassium feldspar, which I don't think are too healthy to eat. Sulfur on the other hand is a mineral. The term mineral which they are using is wrong.

I'm a geologist, sorry for the rant lol.

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I was actually rather confused as well when i first read something that sounded similar to what you said, but i believe the correct term is probably elements not minerals.

As you said that wouldn't make any sense as it is only a mineral in itself.

I think people often confuse minerals and individual elements especially when in regards to nutrition.
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