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    CARB UP! (Meal Plans!)

    Figured I would start a thread as I haven't seen many informative carb up threads other than eat 100g carbs per meal on your carb up.

    Does anyone here actually plan their carb up.
    I am in my first week of Keto and plan on doing one next weekend, however, I don't really feel the need for carbs because the energy that kicked in yesterday is plain awesome.

    For all those that want to, please list;
    1. Do you plan a carb up day, or do you eat as you go?
    2. Meal plan of your carb up.
    3. Foods to avoid on carb up (not only fats but also carbs?)
    4. Opinion of Fats on your carb up day.
    5. common effects you have on a carbup.
    6. What would happen if you don't do a carb up?
    6. Do you shoot for the same amount of carbs on each carb up or do use system/ feel to workout?
    7. Recomendations and things to look for when doing first carb up
    8. If you feel good and gym training has not been effected by keto will a carb up (every 2-3 weeks) provide any advantages?

    All good replies will be repped back
    Appreciate the support and hope this is for everyone's benefit!
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    Originally Posted by Ripnlean View Post
    Figured I would start a thread as I haven't seen many informative carb up threads other than eat 100g carbs per meal on your carb up.

    Does anyone here actually plan their carb up.
    I am in my first week of Keto and plan on doing one next weekend, however, I don't really feel the need for carbs because the energy that kicked in yesterday is plain awesome.

    For all those that want to, please list;
    1. Do you plan a carb up day, or do you eat as you go?
    2. Meal plan of your carb up.
    3. Foods to avoid on carb up (not only fats but also carbs?)
    4. Opinion of Fats on your carb up day.
    5. common effects you have on a carbup.

    All good replies will be repped back
    Appreciate the support and hope this is for everyone's benefit!
    Hey bud, good idea for a thread.. I will be in the same boat in roughly 2 weeks... Last year I went for a good solid month before carbing up..

    I think

    6. Do you shoot for the same amount of carbs on each carb up or do use system/ feel to workout?
    7. Recomendations and things to look for when doing first carb up
    8. If you feel good and gym training has not been effected by keto will a carb up (every 2-3 weeks) provide any advantages?


    could be some valid questions.

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    Originally Posted by Tomek View Post
    Hey bud, good idea for a thread.. I will be in the same boat in roughly 2 weeks... Last year I went for a good solid month before carbing up..

    I think

    6. Do you shoot for the same amount of carbs on each carb up or do use system/ feel to workout?
    7. Recomendations and things to look for when doing first carb up
    8. If you feel good and gym training has not been effected by keto will a carb up (every 2-3 weeks) provide any advantages?


    could be some valid questions.

    Tomek
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    "IF Keto gives you such great energy, do you feel you need to perform a carbup day?"

    I have no idea what that question means. If Keto gave me energy, do I still do a carb up day? Huh?
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    Im a little confused at the question as well? I do get a lot of energy off of keto.. but i notice it during cardio. Towards the end of my 12 days of my keto, i can tell that my muscles are lacking what is needed to put the weight up. This is when i do the carbup. I still have the energy in the gym just not the strength.
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    1. Do you plan a carb up day, or do you eat as you go?
    -I plan my carbup days. They are every other Saturday.

    2. Meal plan of your carb up.
    -I've been experimenting with this. If I eat every 3 hours I tend to get more bloated and retain a lot of water. I discovered if I eat one giant meal it will still fill my muscles but I won't be as bloated the next day. Here's an example carbup day

    After depletion workout:
    ......protein shake
    ......bagel
    ......large bowl of cereal with milk
    ......yogurt
    ......fruit

    Snack:
    ......12 oz milk
    ......1 cup of oatmeal (cooked)
    ......fruit

    Giant meal (last meal of the day):
    .....whole box of hamburger helper
    .....4 slices WW bread
    .....2 sweet potatoes
    .....1 cup of brown rice if I can handle it
    .....ice cream

    3. Foods to avoid on carb up (not only fats but also carbs?)
    -sugary foods, and pretty much any junk food like potato chips and stuff. I do however eat icecream.

    4. Opinion of Fats on your carb up day.
    -I try to keep it as low as possible but I don't stress about it

    5. common effects you have on a carbup.
    -muscles get fuller.

    6. What would happen if you don't do a carb up?
    -my workouts will start to suffer and I will become cranky and irritable

    6. Do you shoot for the same amount of carbs on each carb up or do use system/feel to workout?
    -No, I don't count carbs on carbup, i just make sure to eat a lot of them.

    7. Recomendations and things to look for when doing first carb up
    -stick with clean carbs

    8. If you feel good and gym training has not been effected by keto will a carb up (every 2-3 weeks) provide any advantages?
    -yes, it will replenish glycogen and kickstart your metabolism.





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    Originally Posted by skelooth View Post
    "IF Keto gives you such great energy, do you feel you need to perform a carbup day?"

    I have no idea what that question means. If Keto gave me energy, do I still do a carb up day? Huh?
    Originally Posted by brom32 View Post
    Im a little confused at the question as well? I do get a lot of energy off of keto.. but i notice it during cardio. Towards the end of my 12 days of my keto, i can tell that my muscles are lacking what is needed to put the weight up. This is when i do the carbup. I still have the energy in the gym just not the strength.
    If you get enough energy from eating fats to run on the Keto Diet, why is the carb up needed at all? I can do without carbs, that's what I'm asking!
    For my mucles I believe proteinz/creatine/bcaa's are enough!
    My weight went up on my workout yesterday while on Keto.
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    Originally Posted by bseidl View Post
    1. Do you plan a carb up day, or do you eat as you go?
    -I plan my carbup days. They are every other Saturday.

    2. Meal plan of your carb up.
    -I've been experimenting with this. If I eat every 3 hours I tend to get more bloated and retain a lot of water. I discovered if I eat one giant meal it will still fill my muscles but I won't be as bloated the next day. Here's an example carbup day

    After depletion workout:
    ......protein shake
    ......bagel
    ......large bowl of cereal with milk
    ......yogurt
    ......fruit

    Snack:
    ......12 oz milk
    ......1 cup of oatmeal (cooked)
    ......fruit

    Giant meal (last meal of the day):
    .....whole box of hamburger helper
    .....4 slices WW bread
    .....2 sweet potatoes
    .....1 cup of brown rice if I can handle it
    .....ice cream

    3. Foods to avoid on carb up (not only fats but also carbs?)
    -sugary foods, and pretty much any junk food like potato chips and stuff. I do however eat icecream.

    4. Opinion of Fats on your carb up day.
    -I try to keep it as low as possible but I don't stress about it

    5. common effects you have on a carbup.
    -muscles get fuller.

    6. What would happen if you don't do a carb up?
    -my workouts will start to suffer and I will become cranky and irritable

    6. Do you shoot for the same amount of carbs on each carb up or do use system/feel to workout?
    -No, I don't count carbs on carbup, i just make sure to eat a lot of them.

    7. Recomendations and things to look for when doing first carb up
    -stick with clean carbs

    8. If you feel good and gym training has not been effected by keto will a carb up (every 2-3 weeks) provide any advantages?
    -yes, it will replenish glycogen and kickstart your metabolism.

    .

    Thanks Bro, exactly what I meant. Repped!

    That information is helpful!
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    Muscles feel weak when lifting. Although overall I'm not tired. I've tried skipping carb up, and felt a lot weaker than when I do.
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    Originally Posted by skelooth View Post
    Glycogen

    http://www.answers.com/glycogen

    That's why.
    Originally Posted by curb_pks View Post
    Muscles feel weak when lifting. Although overall I'm not tired. I've tried skipping carb up, and felt a lot weaker than when I do.
    Thanks for the helpful advice guys, if you can, fill out the questionaire
    It will help others in seeing carbup days planned out, etc.!
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    So I went over the Step by step Keto diet plan forums yet again and read up a bit more on the carb up day.

    here is what I got> ( I already decided on not going over 24 hours my first time)

    for my weight 169lbs (76.7kg)>>>LBM=66kg
    I need to eat 10-12 g of carbs per kg/LBM in that 24 hour period.(660-792g carbs)
    Based on the assumption that 24 hours is easier to split up, I will divide this into 6 meals.
    each meal consisting of roughly 110-130g carbs/meal.
    Right off the bat I can say that I will be shooting for the 660 number and no higher!
    Meaning that my calories from carbs will be 2640.

    Plan:
    Friday Night will be the first 100g carbs in the form of Whey/Casein/Waxy maize starch
    This will not count as the first of the 6 meals but rather a post workout shake.
    Fats for this meal will be 6g and protein will consist of at least 50g.

    this leaves me at 550g/6 = 92g per meal starting with supper friday night.
    Fats for this meal will be 6g
    Protein will be

    All of Saturday is roughly 460g carbs/ 1840 cals. 54g (or less) fats/ 486 cals. 146g protein/ 584 cals (No Less). Totaling 2910 cals for Saturday (Or less away from fats only)

    Sources of Carbohydrates will be:
    Oatmeal, Whole wheat Pasta, Sweet Potatoes, Whole wheat bread, Liquid carbs such as Sugar drinks and sauces (marinara). (will include some sweet cravings as well without fats)

    Sources of Dietary Fats will be:
    Nuts, Nut butters, Vegetable oils, Meat fats, Fish Fats

    Sources of Protein will be:
    Whey, Meat red and white, Fish, egg whites.

    Hope to outline a carbup day by friday.
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    My Carb up meal plan: (How's it looking) comments appreciated

    Friday Night 6PM
    Post workout shake, 60g of waxy maize, & 3 scoops aftermax (Total 100g Carbs)

    7 PM:
    Mahi mahi, sweet potato, veggies

    8-10PM; couple of BEERS

    Breakfast:
    Nature's Pride Steel Cut Oats, 1 tbsp PB, NP Yogurt (Nonfat)

    Snack:
    Whole wheat bread, turkey slices,

    Lunch:
    Tuna on 2 whole wheat slices

    Afternoon snack:
    NP Yogurt,NP Steel Cut oats, 1 scoop whey

    Dinner:
    Chicken, Whole wheat Pasta, marinara.(chicken Parmisan)

    Evening SnackCarb up over by then)
    Cottage Cheese, 1tbsp EVOO
    Teavana

    Weight TO Go & Raspberrry Riot Lemon Mate teas among others
    CLA, Fishoil Multi, Alcalean, Xtend, Myofusion and Glutamine

    Trying to mimic my transformation from March through August 09' but hoping to do it in 1/2 the time.
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