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    Originally Posted by WilyCoder View Post
    what's truly laughable about this issue is the haters:

    they're not mad that the award to obama ruins the integrity of the peace prize (it was already ruined years ago).

    they're mad that Obama won.

    Nicely played partisanship.

    Before this story broke did any of you give a damn about this award?

    LOL!
    Do you really need to distort the hell out of everything, just so it makes sense while wearing your partisan blinders?

    Many posts have already said that this award makes the Nobel Peace Prize look absurd. Not because "Obama" won it, but because "a man who hasn't actually accomplished anything in his life, and certainly nothing on a global scale" was awarded it, after being nominated a mere two weeks into his administration.

    What did Senator Obama do to deserve this?
    What did candidate Obama do to deserve this?
    Hell, what has President Obama done to deserve this?

    Other than increased wars, belligerence towards countries we don't agree with, and naive fantasies about a nuclear-free world?

    So far, all his supporters can come up with is vague references to great and wonderful things.... That haven't actually happened, or the standard insult against anyone who dares to disagree with them. Or, the typical "It's OK, because Bush did or didn't do something-or-other..."
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    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post

    Other than increased wars, belligerence towards countries we don't agree with, and naive fantasies about a nuclear-free world?
    these fellows are naive as well i take it?

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB116787515251566636.html
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    Who were the other nominees for the Nobel Peace Prize. Just wondering. Roman Polanski, David Letterman, Kanye West?
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    Originally Posted by kel_varnsen View Post
    these fellows are naive as well i take it?

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB116787515251566636.html
    You cited Kissinger.


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    He won honary 8 gold medals too



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    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    Do you really need to distort the hell out of everything, just so it makes sense while wearing your partisan blinders?

    Many posts have already said that this award makes the Nobel Peace Prize look absurd. Not because "Obama" won it, but because "a man who hasn't actually accomplished anything in his life, and certainly nothing on a global scale" was awarded it, after being nominated a mere two weeks into his administration.

    What did Senator Obama do to deserve this?
    What did candidate Obama do to deserve this?
    Hell, what has President Obama done to deserve this?

    Other than increased wars, belligerence towards countries we don't agree with, and naive fantasies about a nuclear-free world?

    So far, all his supporters can come up with is vague references to great and wonderful things.... That haven't actually happened, or the standard insult against anyone who dares to disagree with them. Or, the typical "It's OK, because Bush did or didn't do something-or-other..."
    3/18/8 ? Obama caught world-wide attention for his moving speech on race relations

    7/24/8 - Obama lays the foundation for a new era of international relations and began inspiring renewed hope in American leadership during his campaign speech in Berlin

    11/6/8 ? Obama?s victory was hailed as a promise of hope for the world.

    12/1/8 ? Obama began plans to restore U.N. ambassador to cabinet rank.

    1/22/9 - Appointed a Special Envoy for Middle East peace

    1/22/9 ? Ordered the closing of Guantanamo Bay

    1/22/9 ? Ordered comprehensive review of detention policies

    1/22/9 ? Prohibited use of torture

    1/22/9 - Signed an executive order to close CIA secret prisons

    1/23/9 ? Lifted ?Global Gag Rule? on international health groups

    1/26/9 ? Began to address climate change by increasing fuel standards for automobiles

    1/26/9 ? Appointed Special Envoy for Climate Change

    1/27/9 - Signs Lily Ledbetter ?Fair Pay? Act

    2/1/9 ? Expanded healthcare for children by signing SCHIP

    2/5/9 - Again addressed energy conservation by increasing standards for appliances.

    2/24/9 ? Directed almost $1 billion for prevention and wellness to improve America?s health

    2/25/9 - Initiated international efforts to reduce mercury emissions worldwide

    2/27/9 ? Committed to responsibly ending the war in Iraq

    4/1/9 ? Agreed to negotiation of a new Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty with Russia.

    4/1/9 ? Enhanced U.S. ? China relations

    4/2/9 - Led global response to the economic crisis through the G20, obtaining commitments of $1.1 trillion to safeguard the world?s most vulnerable economies

    4/4/9 - Renewed dialog with NATO and other key allies

    4/5/9 ? Announced new strategy to responsible address international nuclear proliferation

    4/13/9 ? Began easing tension with Cuba through new policy stance

    4/17/9 - Secured $5 billion in aid commitments "to bolster economy and help it fight terror and Islamic radicalism"

    4/22/9 - Developed the renewable energy projects on the waters of our Outer Continental Shelf that produce electricity from wind, wave, and ocean currents.

    5/8/9 ? Proposed International Affaires budget that included funds to create a civilian response corps -- teams of civilian experts in rule of law, policing, transitional governance, economics, engineering, and other areas critical to helping rebuild war-torn societies; Provide $40 million for a "stabilization bridge fund," which would provide rapid response funds for the State Department to help stabilize a crisis situation.

    6/4/9 - Gave historic address to the Muslim World in Cairo - "American is not at war with Islam" Foreign affairs experts insist that Obama's engagement with the Muslim world has been remarkable. "He has been able to dramatically change America's image in that region"

    8/4/9 - Used DIPLOMACY to free 2 American journalists from a North Korea prison

    9/18/9 - De-escalation of nuclear tension through re purposing of missile defense prompting Russia to withdraw its missile plan.

    Now go google all that shiit and get back to me next year.
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    "Peace in Our Time"




    Obama has been 8 months in office and has accomplished nothing for world peace. The body count in Afghanistan has kept going up higher each month since he took office. Iran and N.Korea are still moving ahead with nuclear production, etc.. He has softened support for Israel while Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah, etc., have increased their threats against it. The Taliban, Al-Qaeda, and other terrorist organizations are reconstituting and gaining strength. Obamas message is not one of peace through strength, but just plain weakness indecision and appeasement.

    Obama is utterly ineffective at bringing the world closer to peace. It is appeasers like him and like Neville Chaimberlain a generation ago, who by their appeasement LESSEN the chances for peace as the power hungry aggressors on the world stage are encourged and helped by the weakness of people like Obama.
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    Congratulations to President Obama!!!
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    Must have been the same guy who made Tony Blair ambassador for peace in the middle east
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    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    Many posts have already said that this award makes the Nobel Peace Prize look absurd. Not because "Obama" won it, but because "a man who hasn't actually accomplished anything in his life, and certainly nothing on a global scale" was awarded it, after being nominated a mere two weeks into his administration.
    As if you actually care about the image of the Nobel Peace Prize.

    Making an issue/outrage where there's none to be found lmao.
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    Hey guys I'm up for nomination next year. Make sure you vote for me at www.thisawardmeansjack$hit.com

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    My friend in switzerland said:

    What? Now we have to THANK americans for NOT bombing and killing anyone?
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    Originally Posted by matt1001 View Post
    if i were the Nobel Peace Prize winner next year i would refuse to accept the award
    This. Actually accepting this award anytime after the cold war probably means your a propagndist attention whore. Although I'd agree he's made some effort in overall deconstruction of america's power-tripping.

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    Originally Posted by TheIslander View Post
    Who were the other nominees for the Nobel Peace Prize. Just wondering. Roman Polanski, David Letterman, Kanye West?
    hahaha, I'm thinking Hilarry clinton should've gotten it for her resolution efforts toward the developing Conana Obrien vs. Mayor of Newark NJ feud.
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    Now I'm going to stop beating around the bush. You are ****ing retarded.
    So are you, but that doesn't take away from my points.
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    My friend in switzerland said:

    What? Now we have to THANK americans for NOT bombing and killing anyone?
    Maybe remind your friend that we're bombing and killing MORE people than we were. He might want to reconsider the reason Obama is getting this.
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    Originally Posted by psamty View Post
    So are you, but that doesn't take away from my points.
    Yeah, actually it does.

    So you're telling me that anti-American sentiment is the root cause of terrorism in Indonesia, Malaysia, Chechnya, Phillipines, etc, etc?

    Only in a very few instances is terrorism a result of anti-American sentiment.
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    Originally Posted by psamty View Post
    So are you, but that doesn't take away from my points.
    Even acts of terrorism in the UNITED STATES from members of Al Queda/Taliban ect.. stem from religious beliefs.
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    Originally Posted by ripper6 View Post
    "Peace in Our Time"




    Obama has been 8 months in office and has accomplished nothing for world peace. The body count in Afghanistan has kept going up higher each month since he took office. Iran and N.Korea are still moving ahead with nuclear production, etc.. He has softened support for Israel while Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah, etc., have increased their threats against it. The Taliban, Al-Qaeda, and other terrorist organizations are reconstituting and gaining strength. Obamas message is not one of peace through strength, but just plain weakness indecision and appeasement.

    Obama is utterly ineffective at bringing the world closer to peace. It is appeasers like him and like Neville Chaimberlain a generation ago, who by their appeasement LESSEN the chances for peace as the power hungry aggressors on the world stage are encourged and helped by the weakness of people like Obama.
    Because not appeasing in Korea, Vietnam (where we ****ing killed over 4 million people), Iraq, etc. has been so peaceful. Oh, except to the millions who had to die. I sometimes wonder that if instead of the millions of brown people being killed overseas in our aggression for economic profit that if it were millions of people in America being killed instead, maybe people would care more?

    Oh, and where would Hitler have been if we didn't send Germany into hyperinflation by giving them unpayable debts after WWI?

    I wouldn't even call what Chamberlain did appeasement; the people in the territory he gave back were all German, spoke German, and identified themselves as German.
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    Originally Posted by Stizzel View Post
    Maybe remind your friend that we're bombing and killing MORE people than we were. He might want to reconsider the reason Obama is getting this.
    Maybe Bush should have finished the job himself or pick his battles better.

    See how that works?

    Then again, you're not fooling anybody with your faux concerns. You didn't argue against the war and the resulting civilian casualties when it was Bush pressing the button.

    And maybe, just maybe, we have to bomb and kill more people because Bush half assed it for 8 years and they built up their strength. Crazy, I know.

    Don't worry, I'm used to dealing with hypocritical Obama haters.
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    Originally Posted by HardcoreLifter5 View Post
    Because not appeasing in Korea, Vietnam (where we ****ing killed over 4 million people), Iraq, etc. has been so peaceful. Oh, except to the millions who had to die. I sometimes wonder that if instead of the millions of brown people being killed overseas in our aggression for economic profit that if it were millions of people in America being killed instead, maybe people would care more?

    Oh, and where would Hitler have been if we didn't send Germany into hyperinflation by giving them unpayable debts after WWI?

    I wouldn't even call what Chamberlain did appeasement; the people in the territory he gave back were all German, spoke German, and identified themselves as German.
    I agree with you partially here, but Woodrow Wilson was all but kicked out of the League of Nations for insisting that Europe ease the post war reparations on Germany. Europe phucked up on that one, we tried to stop them from enabling the rise of another tyrant humiliating the German people.
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    Originally Posted by WilyCoder View Post
    Maybe Bush should have finished the job himself or pick his battles better.

    See how that works?
    Yeah, if only code pink had been pro war during the Bush era, he could have had the public support to bomb the middle east into oblivion

    Honestly it is hilarious to me to watch O-bots that were raving against the war a few years ago supporting its expansion now. Why hinder Bush's efforts if you wanted him to 'finish the job'? Oh thats right, you don't actually have any principals, just partisanship.

    Edit: Not aimed at you specifically, I'm pretty sure you're not an o-bot.

    Originally Posted by WilyCoder View Post
    Then again, you're not fooling anybody with your faux concerns. You didn't argue against the war and the resulting civilian casualties when it was Bush pressing the button.

    Don't worry, I'm used to dealing with hypocritical Obama haters.
    LOL

    I didn't? Might want to check my posting history.
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    Originally Posted by reyalp View Post
    You cited Kissinger.


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    What are you trying to say? That an article written by senior CFR members might have some minor bias?
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    Originally Posted by kel_varnsen View Post
    these fellows are naive as well i take it?

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB116787515251566636.html
    How else would you describe anyone who believes we can magically erase something from existence? The knowledge, technology, and capability exist. Only the irrational and stupid would completely shed themselves of such weapons, while using nothing more than trust and happy feelings to Hope that every other nation and organization on the planet did the same.
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