24/7 Customer Service 1-866-236-8417 Need Help? 1-866-236-8417

Reply
Results 1 to 28 of 28
  1. #1
    Registered User olafmagee's Avatar
    Join Date: Sep 2007
    Location: La Mesa, California, United States
    Age: 53
    Posts: 269
    BodyPoints: 1943
    Rep Power: 294
    olafmagee will become famous soon enough. (+50) olafmagee will become famous soon enough. (+50) olafmagee will become famous soon enough. (+50) olafmagee will become famous soon enough. (+50) olafmagee will become famous soon enough. (+50) olafmagee will become famous soon enough. (+50) olafmagee will become famous soon enough. (+50) olafmagee will become famous soon enough. (+50) olafmagee will become famous soon enough. (+50) olafmagee will become famous soon enough. (+50) olafmagee will become famous soon enough. (+50)
    Visit olafmagee's BodySpace
    olafmagee is offline

    Coffee, Cortisol, Belly Fat

    I have read recently that drinking coffee elevates cortisol levels in the body - thereby triggering the fight or flight response which has the side effects of increased appetite, fat deposits in the stomach area, and other negatives.

    On the other hand, you can find information that touts the beneficial effects of coffee as a performance enahncing substance that actually helps break down fat.

    Can anybody knowledgeable on this subject please shed some light on this? The science behind your info would nice as well.
    My mind is my own church.

    Thomas Paine

    What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof.

    C Hitchins

    Today, a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no such thing as death; life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves...

    Bill Hicks
    Reply With Quote

  2. #2
    Kilroy Was Here JC480's Avatar
    Join Date: May 2008
    Location: Detroit, Michigan, United States
    Age: 49
    Stats: 6'1", 246 lbs
    Posts: 1,702
    Rep Power: 329
    JC480 will become famous soon enough. (+50) JC480 will become famous soon enough. (+50) JC480 will become famous soon enough. (+50) JC480 will become famous soon enough. (+50) JC480 will become famous soon enough. (+50) JC480 will become famous soon enough. (+50) JC480 will become famous soon enough. (+50) JC480 will become famous soon enough. (+50) JC480 will become famous soon enough. (+50) JC480 will become famous soon enough. (+50) JC480 will become famous soon enough. (+50)
    Visit JC480's BodySpace
    JC480 is offline
    www.pubmed.gov

    This is a good resource you may want to bookmark.

    Anyway...to answer your question, read this study.

    http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/33/5/989
    Reply With Quote

  3. #3
    Registered User JOHN GARGANI's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2004
    Location: Connecticut, United States
    Age: 64
    Stats: 5'7", 188 lbs
    Posts: 12,936
    BodyPoints: 11639
    Rep Power: 48910
    JOHN GARGANI has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) JOHN GARGANI has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) JOHN GARGANI has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) JOHN GARGANI has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) JOHN GARGANI has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) JOHN GARGANI has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) JOHN GARGANI has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) JOHN GARGANI has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) JOHN GARGANI has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) JOHN GARGANI has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) JOHN GARGANI has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000)
    Visit JOHN GARGANI's BodySpace
    JOHN GARGANI is offline
    coffee has more positives than negatives BUT with the caveat that it IS addictive and somehow, you must learn to control it and not IT control you....

    othewise, you get caught in a spiral of ups and downs and need refills every 2 hours or so.....

    if "real" coffee is limited to once or twice a day, it's effect is much greater.....


    I usually have some half-caf in the AM, and then go caffeine free most of the day, until about 1/2 hour or hour before training......

    if you do that, you get a much more pronounce effect, and you are only having maybe a cup and a half of reg coffee a day, which is nothing......
    Reply With Quote

  4. #4
    Registered User BazzaW's Avatar
    Join Date: Jul 2009
    Location: Melbourne, VIC, Australia
    Age: 54
    Stats: 6'0", 220 lbs
    Posts: 468
    Rep Power: 360
    BazzaW has a spectacular aura about. (+250) BazzaW has a spectacular aura about. (+250) BazzaW has a spectacular aura about. (+250) BazzaW has a spectacular aura about. (+250) BazzaW has a spectacular aura about. (+250) BazzaW has a spectacular aura about. (+250) BazzaW has a spectacular aura about. (+250) BazzaW has a spectacular aura about. (+250) BazzaW has a spectacular aura about. (+250) BazzaW has a spectacular aura about. (+250) BazzaW has a spectacular aura about. (+250)
    Visit BazzaW's BodySpace
    BazzaW is offline
    I have just given it up (1st July) how sick is that I know the date, after being a 6-7 mug a day as strong as you can give it to me coffee adict. The withdrawals were 3 days of headaches. My co -workers take great joy in coming past me with steaming hot mugs that smell like heaven. But I have to say that I have found my body less subject to euphoric highs and lows during the day....more of a steady metabolic rate.
    Reply With Quote

  5. #5
    Registered User MarkG's Avatar
    Join Date: Sep 2004
    Location: Las Vegas, Nevada, United States
    Age: 61
    Posts: 56
    BodyPoints: 846
    Rep Power: 135
    MarkG has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) MarkG has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) MarkG has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) MarkG has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) MarkG has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) MarkG has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) MarkG has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) MarkG has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) MarkG has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) MarkG has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0)
    Visit MarkG's BodySpace
    MarkG is offline

    coffee....

    Studies show adding cinnamon (the real stuff, not the type at Safeway) to coffee helps prevent the insulin spikes and crashes. It works for me.

    I get ground Ceylon cinnamon from the NET, and also add it with raw organic honey to my whey shake in the a.m.
    Reply With Quote

  6. #6
    Registered User GaijinPunch's Avatar
    Join Date: Jun 2004
    Age: 40
    Posts: 13
    Rep Power: 0
    GaijinPunch has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0)
    GaijinPunch is offline
    coffee has more positives than negatives BUT with the caveat that it IS addictive and somehow,
    You should read some of Alan Carr's stuff. One of the main points is facing what addicition is, and that there are very few drugs in the world that are physically addictive. Heroin obviously would be the main one. The big myth is that nicotine is physically addictive. If it were, any given smoker wouldnt' make it through a full night's sleep.

    Anyways, the point was, a lot of that is in your head...even with coffee. I still drink quite a bit though.
    Reply With Quote

  7. #7
    Registered User JOHN GARGANI's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2004
    Location: Connecticut, United States
    Age: 64
    Stats: 5'7", 188 lbs
    Posts: 12,936
    BodyPoints: 11639
    Rep Power: 48910
    JOHN GARGANI has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) JOHN GARGANI has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) JOHN GARGANI has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) JOHN GARGANI has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) JOHN GARGANI has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) JOHN GARGANI has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) JOHN GARGANI has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) JOHN GARGANI has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) JOHN GARGANI has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) JOHN GARGANI has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) JOHN GARGANI has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000)
    Visit JOHN GARGANI's BodySpace
    JOHN GARGANI is offline
    Originally Posted by MarkG View Post
    Studies show adding cinnamon (the real stuff, not the type at Safeway) to coffee helps prevent the insulin spikes and crashes. It works for me.

    I get ground Ceylon cinnamon from the NET, and also add it with raw organic honey to my whey shake in the a.m.
    whoa...wait a minute, insulin spikes? how much sugar were you putting in your coffee??

    without sugar, Coffee cause spikes of the CNS, not of insulin......
    Reply With Quote

  8. #8
    1st Dan Chito-Ryu tonester's Avatar
    Join Date: Oct 2005
    Location: Canada
    Age: 60
    Stats: 6'0", 185 lbs
    Posts: 1,768
    BodyPoints: 3040
    Rep Power: 2645
    tonester is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) tonester is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) tonester is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) tonester is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) tonester is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) tonester is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) tonester is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) tonester is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) tonester is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) tonester is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) tonester is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500)
    Visit tonester's BodySpace
    tonester is offline
    My main problem with coffee or any stimulant is the affect it has on my adrenal system. As for the pluses of coffee I can get all that from various fruits and vegetables.

    http://www.ehow.com/about_5122295_ef...al-glands.html

    One is simply creating a false fight or flight response many times a day. Can't be good long term.

    I threw out some nutrition baggage 4 years ago so I'm not 100% sure if it was any one thing, but I feel a shiite load better now with more energy than I did before when I was using stimulants everyday. I've replaced the fake energy with my own. The two biggies were coffee and alcohol.

    My doctor has a computer screen on his desk facing me that mirrors his. He has this neat programme that creates graphs with all my blood work and test results. He has been using this for about 6 years (I get checked every 6 months because I'm Canadian ) and the improvement in all areas is astonishing. But in particular and most importantly for my energy levels, my hormonal balance.

    Just thought I'd share my personal experience.
    Last edited by tonester; 10-09-2009 at 03:49 AM.
    "Adapt and overcome."

    "Everything you need is inside you."
    Reply With Quote

  9. #9
    Kilroy Was Here JC480's Avatar
    Join Date: May 2008
    Location: Detroit, Michigan, United States
    Age: 49
    Stats: 6'1", 246 lbs
    Posts: 1,702
    Rep Power: 329
    JC480 will become famous soon enough. (+50) JC480 will become famous soon enough. (+50) JC480 will become famous soon enough. (+50) JC480 will become famous soon enough. (+50) JC480 will become famous soon enough. (+50) JC480 will become famous soon enough. (+50) JC480 will become famous soon enough. (+50) JC480 will become famous soon enough. (+50) JC480 will become famous soon enough. (+50) JC480 will become famous soon enough. (+50) JC480 will become famous soon enough. (+50)
    Visit JC480's BodySpace
    JC480 is offline
    I get checked every 6 months because I'm American I call my doctor and can get a same day appointment if I want one...because I'm not a Canadian

    My bloodwork is perfect...better than perfect.

    I drink 2-3 cups of coffee everyday. I love coffee. When I'm 100 years old, I'll make my great great great grandchildren bring me flavored coffee everytime they visit me and my 20 y/o wife.
    Reply With Quote

  10. #10
    Registered User Tofino's Avatar
    Join Date: Sep 2009
    Location: Surrey, BC, Canada
    Age: 44
    Stats: 6'6", 212 lbs
    Posts: 20
    Rep Power: 0
    Tofino has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0)
    Visit Tofino's BodySpace
    Tofino is offline
    Originally Posted by JC480 View Post
    I get checked every 6 months because I'm American I call my doctor and can get a same day appointment if I want one...because I'm not a Canadian

    My bloodwork is perfect...better than perfect.

    I drink 2-3 cups of coffee everyday. I love coffee. When I'm 100 years old, I'll make my great great great grandchildren bring me flavored coffee everytime they visit me and my 20 y/o wife.
    This is excellent, and I'm happy about your awesome bloodwork -- my last one in June was similar.

    However, there is only one "flavored coffee". That is coffee-flavored coffee.
    Reply With Quote

  11. #11
    Registered User skinny buckeye's Avatar
    Join Date: Aug 2006
    Age: 41
    Stats: 6'1", 180 lbs
    Posts: 4,550
    BodyPoints: 6774
    Rep Power: 2174
    skinny buckeye is just really nice. (+1000) skinny buckeye is just really nice. (+1000) skinny buckeye is just really nice. (+1000) skinny buckeye is just really nice. (+1000) skinny buckeye is just really nice. (+1000) skinny buckeye is just really nice. (+1000) skinny buckeye is just really nice. (+1000) skinny buckeye is just really nice. (+1000) skinny buckeye is just really nice. (+1000) skinny buckeye is just really nice. (+1000) skinny buckeye is just really nice. (+1000)
    Visit skinny buckeye's BodySpace
    skinny buckeye is offline
    Originally Posted by tonester View Post
    My main problem with coffee or any stimulant is the affect it has on my adrenal system. As for the pluses of coffee I can get all that from various fruits and vegetables.

    http://www.ehow.com/about_5122295_ef...al-glands.html

    One is simply creating a false fight or flight response many times a day. Can't be good long term.

    I threw out some nutrition baggage 4 years ago so I'm not 100% sure if it was any one thing, but I feel a shiite load better now with more energy than I did before when I was using stimulants everyday. I've replaced the fake energy with my own. The two biggies were coffee and alcohol.

    My doctor has a computer screen on his desk facing me that mirrors his. He has this neat programme that creates graphs with all my blood work and test results. He has been using this for about 6 years (I get checked every 6 months because I'm Canadian ) and the improvement in all areas is astonishing. But in particular and most importantly for my energy levels, my hormonal balance.

    Just thought I'd share my personal experience.

    interesting. thats cool that your dr is tracking data points. Just out of curiosity, which data points improved and by how much? did total test improve at all?
    Reply With Quote

  12. #12
    Cuttin' with Kimm4 J.Ho's Avatar
    Join Date: Aug 2009
    Location: Mount Pleasant, South Carolina, United States
    Age: 51
    Stats: 5'10", 209 lbs
    Posts: 337
    Rep Power: 215
    J.Ho will become famous soon enough. (+50) J.Ho will become famous soon enough. (+50) J.Ho will become famous soon enough. (+50) J.Ho will become famous soon enough. (+50) J.Ho will become famous soon enough. (+50) J.Ho will become famous soon enough. (+50) J.Ho will become famous soon enough. (+50) J.Ho will become famous soon enough. (+50) J.Ho will become famous soon enough. (+50) J.Ho will become famous soon enough. (+50) J.Ho will become famous soon enough. (+50)
    Visit J.Ho's BodySpace
    J.Ho is offline
    Originally Posted by JC480 View Post
    I get checked every 6 months because I'm American I call my doctor and can get a same day appointment if I want one...because I'm not a Canadian

    My bloodwork is perfect...better than perfect.

    I drink 2-3 cups of coffee everyday. I love coffee. When I'm 100 years old, I'll make my great great great grandchildren bring me flavored coffee everytime they visit me and my 20 y/o wife.
    oh snap!

    I love coffee too. I have cut back from 4-6 cups a day to 1 cup a day since the beginning of this year. Still love it but drink a lot more water than coffee nowadays.

    I prefer french press coffee... aahh yeah, with Kona beans.
    Jeff

    "Over 40 Transformation Of The Week February 2010"
    www.bodybuilding.com/fun/over-40-transformation-jeff-hodges.htm
    Reply With Quote

  13. #13
    Registered User Fanie117's Avatar
    Join Date: Nov 2008
    Location: White River, Mpumalanga, South Africa
    Age: 29
    Stats: 6'1", 238 lbs
    Posts: 1
    Rep Power: 0
    Fanie117 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0)
    Visit Fanie117's BodySpace
    Fanie117 is offline

    Is it Coffee that is making me unable to loose weight??

    Okey, here is the deal. I love coffee! And I think I like it too much. I drink every coffee with two sugars and milk. So I can have about 8 to 24 coffees a day. Realy it is so much I dont count. When Im bored I make coffee. I have a big belly. Will I see a differance if I quit drinking coffee and have tea without sugar and milk instead. For me that is the next best option cause I like tea. But will I loose weight??? And If I quit with my coffee habit, how long? The other thing is if I drink tea I get hungry. And my digestion works faster, does that mean tea ups my metabolism?
    Reply With Quote

  14. #14
    Bored drudixon's Avatar
    Join Date: Aug 2010
    Location: Coppell, Texas, United States
    Stats: 6'0", 200 lbs
    Posts: 10,523
    Rep Power: 29288
    drudixon has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) drudixon has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) drudixon has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) drudixon has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) drudixon has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) drudixon has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) drudixon has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) drudixon has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) drudixon has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) drudixon has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) drudixon has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000)
    Visit drudixon's BodySpace
    drudixon is offline
    Originally Posted by GaijinPunch View Post
    You should read some of Alan Carr's stuff. One of the main points is facing what addicition is, and that there are very few drugs in the world that are physically addictive. Heroin obviously would be the main one. The big myth is that nicotine is physically addictive. If it were, any given smoker wouldnt' make it through a full night's sleep.

    Anyways, the point was, a lot of that is in your head...even with coffee. I still drink quite a bit though.
    clearly youve never smoked. Also, by your logic, anyone with a physical addiction would never sleep, which isn't true.
    Reply With Quote

  15. #15
    Registered User HairyScandinavian's Avatar
    Join Date: Jul 2007
    Location: San Antonio, Texas, United States
    Age: 39
    Stats: 5'11", 197 lbs
    Posts: 12,604
    BodyPoints: 3137
    Rep Power: 31564
    HairyScandinavian has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) HairyScandinavian has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) HairyScandinavian has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) HairyScandinavian has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) HairyScandinavian has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) HairyScandinavian has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) HairyScandinavian has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) HairyScandinavian has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) HairyScandinavian has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) HairyScandinavian has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) HairyScandinavian has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000)
    Visit HairyScandinavian's BodySpace
    HairyScandinavian is offline
    Originally Posted by Fanie117 View Post
    Okey, here is the deal. I love coffee! And I think I like it too much. I drink every coffee with two sugars and milk. So I can have about 8 to 24 coffees a day. Realy it is so much I dont count. When Im bored I make coffee. I have a big belly. Will I see a differance if I quit drinking coffee and have tea without sugar and milk instead. For me that is the next best option cause I like tea. But will I loose weight??? And If I quit with my coffee habit, how long? The other thing is if I drink tea I get hungry. And my digestion works faster, does that mean tea ups my metabolism?
    This thread is almost 3 years old, but props for using the Search function.

    Way too much coffee, but why not try Splenda in the coffee instead of sugar for starters and then just reduce the amount of it that you drink? I have a coffee every morning at work, no creamer (yuk) and 3 Splenda packets, but always have a full glass of water along with the coffee.
    Reply With Quote

  16. #16
    Registered User m314's Avatar
    Join Date: Apr 2008
    Location: San Jose, California, United States
    Age: 40
    Stats: 6'4", 236 lbs
    Posts: 2,639
    Rep Power: 4351
    m314 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) m314 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) m314 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) m314 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) m314 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) m314 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) m314 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) m314 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) m314 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) m314 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) m314 is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500)
    Visit m314's BodySpace
    m314 is offline
    Originally Posted by drudixon View Post
    clearly youve never smoked. Also, by your logic, anyone with a physical addiction would never sleep, which isn't true.
    Sleeping is actually a big part of physical withdrawal from stimulants. Amphetamine, methamphetamine, ephedrine, caffeine (to a lesser extent), etc. I'm probably drinking a little too much coffee and diet soda these days. If I take a weekend with no caffeine, all I feel like doing is sleeping and laying around in bed.
    Reply With Quote

  17. #17
    Registered User Zoosh's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2012
    Location: Texas, United States
    Age: 48
    Stats: 5'10", 222 lbs
    Posts: 200
    Rep Power: 336
    Zoosh has a spectacular aura about. (+250) Zoosh has a spectacular aura about. (+250) Zoosh has a spectacular aura about. (+250) Zoosh has a spectacular aura about. (+250) Zoosh has a spectacular aura about. (+250) Zoosh has a spectacular aura about. (+250) Zoosh has a spectacular aura about. (+250) Zoosh has a spectacular aura about. (+250) Zoosh has a spectacular aura about. (+250) Zoosh has a spectacular aura about. (+250) Zoosh has a spectacular aura about. (+250)
    Visit Zoosh's BodySpace
    Zoosh is offline
    I've tried injecting ground up beans directly into my jugular but the grounds get stuck in the syringe. At least I'm cutting down on the # of cups.
    The first and the best victory is to conquer self. To be conquered by self is, of all things, the most shameful and vile. Plato
    Reply With Quote

  18. #18
    Not afraid of food! EB68's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2012
    Location: Chatsworth, Georgia, United States
    Stats: 5'11", 170 lbs
    Posts: 5,212
    Rep Power: 13971
    EB68 is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) EB68 is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) EB68 is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) EB68 is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) EB68 is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) EB68 is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) EB68 is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) EB68 is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) EB68 is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) EB68 is a splendid one to behold. (+10000) EB68 is a splendid one to behold. (+10000)
    Visit EB68's BodySpace
    EB68 is offline
    Well since the thread is already resurected, I drink one black coffee per day in the AM. I can skip it for a few days and feel no different.
    Eric

    PR's
    squat 335x1
    benchpress 245x1
    DB Benchpress 100'sx6
    Bent over rows 245x8
    deadlifts 445x1
    Military press 130x6
    Chin-ups BW+100x2
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=144259741 My workout journal
    Reply With Quote

  19. #19
    King of Uranus Looton's Avatar
    Join Date: Jul 2012
    Stats: 5'9", 167 lbs
    Posts: 387
    Rep Power: 243
    Looton will become famous soon enough. (+50) Looton will become famous soon enough. (+50) Looton will become famous soon enough. (+50) Looton will become famous soon enough. (+50) Looton will become famous soon enough. (+50) Looton will become famous soon enough. (+50) Looton will become famous soon enough. (+50) Looton will become famous soon enough. (+50) Looton will become famous soon enough. (+50) Looton will become famous soon enough. (+50) Looton will become famous soon enough. (+50)
    Visit Looton's BodySpace
    Looton is offline
    Dr Pericone, dailyperricone dot com/2010/03/cortisol-the-death-hormone/

    "Excessive amounts of cortisol can destroy the immune system, shrink the brain and other vital organs, decrease muscle mass, and cause thinning of the skin which results in prominent blood vessels. ...

    ■Get good adequate sleep-six to eight hours of uninterrupted sleep every night.
    ■Minimize stress-whenever possible, avoid stress-inducing situations.
    ■Cut out coffee! Coffee contains a number of organic acids that affect blood sugar and cortisol levels. This is not due to the caffeine. For example, you can drink a cup of decaffeinated coffee at 8am and your cortisol levels will still be measurable at 10pm-the same as if you had drunk regular coffee."
    Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in.
    -Twain
    Reply With Quote

  20. #20
    Canis Belli Whiskeyjack's Avatar
    Join Date: Aug 2007
    Location: British Columbia, Canada
    Age: 51
    Stats: 5'8", 212 lbs
    Posts: 5,427
    BodyPoints: 18781
    Rep Power: 8099
    Whiskeyjack is a name known to all. (+5000) Whiskeyjack is a name known to all. (+5000) Whiskeyjack is a name known to all. (+5000) Whiskeyjack is a name known to all. (+5000) Whiskeyjack is a name known to all. (+5000) Whiskeyjack is a name known to all. (+5000) Whiskeyjack is a name known to all. (+5000) Whiskeyjack is a name known to all. (+5000) Whiskeyjack is a name known to all. (+5000) Whiskeyjack is a name known to all. (+5000) Whiskeyjack is a name known to all. (+5000)
    Visit Whiskeyjack's BodySpace
    Whiskeyjack is offline
    Originally Posted by Tofino View Post
    This is excellent, and I'm happy about your awesome bloodwork -- my last one in June was similar.

    However, there is only one "flavored coffee". That is coffee-flavored coffee.
    <------knows both Surrey and Tofino BC quite well.
    "An infraction is better than an infarction."
    - Aldington and Adlington

    "Cursus sub pondere crescit."
    - Anon
    Reply With Quote

  21. #21
    Registered User michail71's Avatar
    Join Date: Jul 2011
    Location: Florida, United States
    Age: 44
    Stats: 5'9", 164 lbs
    Posts: 1,956
    Rep Power: 824
    michail71 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) michail71 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) michail71 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) michail71 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) michail71 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) michail71 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) michail71 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) michail71 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) michail71 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) michail71 is a jewel in the rough. (+500) michail71 is a jewel in the rough. (+500)
    Visit michail71's BodySpace
    michail71 is offline
    Coffee also contains dihydrogen monoxide, which can cause cerebral edema and water retention in large quantities.
    Reply With Quote

  22. #22
    The Jesus Crew 2nd_chance's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2009
    Location: United States
    Stats: 6'2", 230 lbs
    Posts: 20,081
    Rep Power: 50775
    2nd_chance has a brilliant future. Third best rank! (+40000) 2nd_chance has a brilliant future. Third best rank! (+40000) 2nd_chance has a brilliant future. Third best rank! (+40000) 2nd_chance has a brilliant future. Third best rank! (+40000) 2nd_chance has a brilliant future. Third best rank! (+40000) 2nd_chance has a brilliant future. Third best rank! (+40000) 2nd_chance has a brilliant future. Third best rank! (+40000) 2nd_chance has a brilliant future. Third best rank! (+40000) 2nd_chance has a brilliant future. Third best rank! (+40000) 2nd_chance has a brilliant future. Third best rank! (+40000) 2nd_chance has a brilliant future. Third best rank! (+40000)
    Visit 2nd_chance's BodySpace
    2nd_chance is offline
    Originally Posted by olafmagee View Post
    I have read recently that drinking coffee elevates cortisol levels in the body - thereby triggering the fight or flight response which has the side effects of increased appetite, fat deposits in the stomach area, and other negatives.

    On the other hand, you can find information that touts the beneficial effects of coffee as a performance enahncing substance that actually helps break down fat.

    Can anybody knowledgeable on this subject please shed some light on this? The science behind your info would nice as well.
    Worrying about this will have .00000001% effect on your fitness goals.
    David


    I'm not a bodybuilder but I play one on the internet.
    Reply With Quote

  23. #23
    Registered User nlsecor's Avatar
    Join Date: Sep 2009
    Age: 41
    Stats: 6'1", 194 lbs
    Posts: 172
    Rep Power: 136
    nlsecor will become famous soon enough. (+50) nlsecor will become famous soon enough. (+50) nlsecor will become famous soon enough. (+50) nlsecor will become famous soon enough. (+50) nlsecor will become famous soon enough. (+50) nlsecor will become famous soon enough. (+50) nlsecor will become famous soon enough. (+50) nlsecor will become famous soon enough. (+50) nlsecor will become famous soon enough. (+50) nlsecor will become famous soon enough. (+50) nlsecor will become famous soon enough. (+50)
    Visit nlsecor's BodySpace
    nlsecor is offline
    Originally Posted by Fanie117 View Post
    Okey, here is the deal. I love coffee! And I think I like it too much. I drink every coffee with two sugars and milk. So I can have about 8 to 24 coffees a day. Realy it is so much I dont count. When Im bored I make coffee. I have a big belly. Will I see a differance if I quit drinking coffee and have tea without sugar and milk instead. For me that is the next best option cause I like tea. But will I loose weight??? And If I quit with my coffee habit, how long? The other thing is if I drink tea I get hungry. And my digestion works faster, does that mean tea ups my metabolism?
    Bro. I am a coffee addict, and even I am shocked if your numbers are correct. I am not as concerned about the coffee as I am about the sugar. I would consider using a measured teaspoon or tablespoon, and counting how many calories you are adding per day that have zero nutritional benefit. For each 3500 calories or so that is a pound of fat you are adding. So, if you were able to cut your sugar in half or by 75%, you could calculate the calories saved and get an estimate of how much it would contribute to weight loss. Consider getting some 200mg caffeine pills from prolabs or similar, and take 1 or a half regularly to supplement your coffee drinking. While a lot of caffeine is problematic, caffeine and suger is more problematic, and is sending you straight down the path of diabetes and other problems.
    Never worry because it all works out in the end. If it hasn't worked out then it's not the end.
    Reply With Quote

  24. #24
    King of Uranus Looton's Avatar
    Join Date: Jul 2012
    Stats: 5'9", 167 lbs
    Posts: 387
    Rep Power: 243
    Looton will become famous soon enough. (+50) Looton will become famous soon enough. (+50) Looton will become famous soon enough. (+50) Looton will become famous soon enough. (+50) Looton will become famous soon enough. (+50) Looton will become famous soon enough. (+50) Looton will become famous soon enough. (+50) Looton will become famous soon enough. (+50) Looton will become famous soon enough. (+50) Looton will become famous soon enough. (+50) Looton will become famous soon enough. (+50)
    Visit Looton's BodySpace
    Looton is offline
    Originally Posted by michail71 View Post
    Coffee also contains dihydrogen monoxide, which can cause cerebral edema and water retention in large quantities.
    There's also Green Coffee - even as a sup. Starbucks also started with it. Here's what wiki had on it;

    "Green coffee refers to coffee produced from coffee beans that have not been roasted. If ground and brewed, green coffee beans have very little taste, although they are utilized in some forms of traditional Arabic coffee.

    Dr. Joe Vinson presented results of research in March 2012 whereby he performed a randomized double-blind placebo-controlled crossover study which found a significant correlation between consumption of green coffee and weight loss.[1] Vinson thinks that the weight loss may be due to chlorogenic acid, which is thought to reduce the absorption of glucose and lower the hyperglycemic peak. The study was small, utilizing only 16 people and published in a low impact journal, and has not yet been replicated.[2][3]

    In a 2006 study, Shimoda et al [4] found that Green Coffee Bean Extract (GCBE) blocks fat absorption and stimulates the fat burning metabolism in mice.
    "
    Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in.
    -Twain
    Reply With Quote

  25. #25
    Registered User BritInRo's Avatar
    Join Date: Dec 2010
    Location: English living, in Bucuresti, Romania
    Posts: 557
    Rep Power: 2795
    BritInRo is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) BritInRo is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) BritInRo is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) BritInRo is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) BritInRo is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) BritInRo is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) BritInRo is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) BritInRo is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) BritInRo is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) BritInRo is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) BritInRo is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500)
    Visit BritInRo's BodySpace
    BritInRo is offline
    Whilst i am always open to scientific based studies/proof etc, things like coffee increasing cortisol or whatever are way down my list of things to worry about.

    One thing for sure is i know i have 100% control over my diet and routine and that's always going to give the greatest bang for your buck, and even with the best will in the world there is no way i can get in the same zip code percentage-wise for control of things like cortisol/insulin etc etc.

    I admit an academic interest in these things though.
    Reply With Quote

  26. #26
    Registered User JolietKev's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2009
    Age: 44
    Stats: 5'4", 170 lbs
    Posts: 5,779
    Rep Power: 4991
    JolietKev is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) JolietKev is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) JolietKev is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) JolietKev is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) JolietKev is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) JolietKev is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) JolietKev is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) JolietKev is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) JolietKev is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) JolietKev is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) JolietKev is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500)
    Visit JolietKev's BodySpace
    JolietKev is offline
    Originally Posted by 2nd_chance View Post
    Worrying about this will have .00000001% effect on your fitness goals.
    I agree with this. Will not matter one bit.
    "Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? Yet not one of them falls to the ground outside of the Lord's will. So do not be afraid, or worry, for you are worth much more than many sparrows."

    "Seek first His kingdom and His righteousness, and the rest shall be given to you as well."
    Reply With Quote

  27. #27
    Registered User Legbuh's Avatar
    Join Date: May 2008
    Age: 44
    Stats: 6'2", 250 lbs
    Posts: 498
    Rep Power: 259
    Legbuh will become famous soon enough. (+50) Legbuh will become famous soon enough. (+50) Legbuh will become famous soon enough. (+50) Legbuh will become famous soon enough. (+50) Legbuh will become famous soon enough. (+50) Legbuh will become famous soon enough. (+50) Legbuh will become famous soon enough. (+50) Legbuh will become famous soon enough. (+50) Legbuh will become famous soon enough. (+50) Legbuh will become famous soon enough. (+50) Legbuh will become famous soon enough. (+50)
    Visit Legbuh's BodySpace
    Legbuh is offline
    I put 1/2 tsp instant coffee in my morning protein shake... yum... That's it for the day though. Its really only for the flavor as I'm way to sensitive to stims. Stick with water the rest of the day.
    Reply With Quote

  28. #28
    Stay Strong all year long alex2363's Avatar
    Join Date: Feb 2007
    Stats: 5'5", 188 lbs
    Posts: 6,497
    Rep Power: 5927
    alex2363 is a name known to all. (+5000) alex2363 is a name known to all. (+5000) alex2363 is a name known to all. (+5000) alex2363 is a name known to all. (+5000) alex2363 is a name known to all. (+5000) alex2363 is a name known to all. (+5000) alex2363 is a name known to all. (+5000) alex2363 is a name known to all. (+5000) alex2363 is a name known to all. (+5000) alex2363 is a name known to all. (+5000) alex2363 is a name known to all. (+5000)
    Visit alex2363's BodySpace
    alex2363 is offline
    So whats the consensus here...good or bad? or both?
    IIFYM crews ....I Reps back.
    Traditional Wet Shave Crew / I can't hardly wait for tomorrow to come so I can lift then Wet Shave again.
    Reply With Quote

Reply

Similar Threads

  1. Belly Fat
    By bellymustgo in forum Losing Fat
    Replies: 30
    Last Post: 09-14-2014, 07:27 AM
  2. belly fat!
    By simzy in forum Losing Fat
    Replies: 18
    Last Post: 07-20-2014, 01:21 PM
  3. Replies: 31
    Last Post: 08-19-2013, 08:30 AM
  4. Need help getting rid of bloat and belly fat..
    By qtblonde142 in forum Nutrition and Supplements
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 01-29-2004, 08:20 PM
  5. Getting rid of belly fat and love handles???
    By INSSANE in forum Exercises
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 02-19-2003, 04:54 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts