Went out and got a set yesterday since I wanted another hobby. Assembled it and tuned it, but haven't had a chance to bang on it yet. I've wanted one since I was like 8, so I'm pretty excited. I've always been a finger-tapper and air-drummer, and I love playing Rock Band drums, lulz.
i've been doing a lot of researching and reading, but i figure i'd come here also since I've seen quite a few drummers on here. Below are some essential findings in my research:
Earplugs
Metronome
Lessons
Rudiments
Paradiddles
Play to music (iPod)
Practice pad (which i got)
I got a 5-piece set, a ride and a hi-hat (with all hardware, stands, etc) and a double-bass pedal. A good beginner kit, IMO.
I'm looking at playing hardcore, grind, thrash, death metal, jazz, etc. I mainly like faster music with emphasis on blast, but I'm really versatile in the music I listen to.
I know I'm going to need to work my way up, but I have nothing but time and determination.
Anyway, just wondering if there are any drummers around that can give me some good beginner advice that isn't blatantly obvious? good forums to check out (just registered on Online Drummer)? ways to stay motivated when the frustration comes? tips on sound proofing? maybe pics of your drum sets and placement? how essential are lessons? really, anything you care to share.
i'll get some when i get the cymbals tonight. i'm borrowing some of my friend's cymbals, so they're not installed yet and I'm at work. i'll throw up some pics tonight.
it's nothing special, though. just a relatively inexpensive beginner kit. just something to get my feet wet and annoy my housemates with.
I'm looking at playing hardcore, grind, thrash, death metal, jazz, etc. I mainly like faster music with emphasis on blast, but I'm really versatile in the music I listen to.
lol wut?
jazz drumming is pretty much the exact opposite of the others there
My brothers been self teaching himself drums for the last few months, and he loves this guys videos, helped him come a long way since he started. I recommend having a look through his series. Good luck.
jazz drumming is pretty much the exact opposite of the others there
no, i know. jazz is like the root of all music. so if i can play that, it will help me learn other genres of music. also, from what i've read and heard, jazz is the hardest to play.
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Originally Posted by AriesMedic
Good luck. If you're going to play double bass, invest in double bass drums so the two pedals don't cancel each other out as much.
And for the love of God, resist the temptation to try to play "One" right off the bat.
i see lots of professional drummers using 1 bass drum with two pedals? didn't think it was all that necessary to have two bass drums . . .
what did you mean by your second part? is that a song, or were you referring to one pedal?
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Originally Posted by Riskoe
My brothers been self teaching himself drums for the last few months, and he loves this guys videos, helped him come a long way since he started. I recommend having a look through his series. Good luck.
no, i know. jazz is like the root of all music. so if i can play that, it will help me learn other genres of music. also, from what i've read and heard, jazz is the hardest to play.
i see lots of professional drummers using 1 bass drum with two pedals? didn't think it was all that necessary to have two bass drums . . .
what did you mean by your second part? is that a song, or were you referring to one pedal?
thanks, dude, i appreciate that. i will for sure check out those vids.
how's your brother coming along without lessons? is he ever going to take lessons?
jazz drumming is easy
the improving of solos(which are in pretty much every jazz song) is whats hard
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as for those rudiments, this is what i used to practice them (your practice pad is good for this, as i bet your neighbors wouldn't like you practicing them on your kit all the time =P ): http://www.vicfirth.com/education/rudiments.html
i have a dw set up pretty much like travis barker's with a little differences here and there
good luck mayne, play to music a lot and aside from practicing rudiments, take fills from other drummers that you think are freaking awesome, cause it makes it more fun to play stuff you like and when improvising you can pull those outta your ass
Went out and got a set yesterday since I wanted another hobby. Assembled it and tuned it, but haven't had a chance to bang on it yet. I've wanted one since I was like 8, so I'm pretty excited. I've always been a finger-tapper and air-drummer, and I love playing Rock Band drums, lulz.
i've been doing a lot of researching and reading, but i figure i'd come here also since I've seen quite a few drummers on here. Below are some essential findings in my research:
Earplugs
Metronome
Lessons
Rudiments
Paradiddles
Play to music (iPod)
Practice pad (which i got)
I got a 5-piece set, a ride and a hi-hat (with all hardware, stands, etc) and a double-bass pedal. A good beginner kit, IMO.
I'm looking at playing hardcore, grind, thrash, death metal, jazz, etc. I mainly like faster music with emphasis on blast, but I'm really versatile in the music I listen to.
I know I'm going to need to work my way up, but I have nothing but time and determination.
Anyway, just wondering if there are any drummers around that can give me some good beginner advice that isn't blatantly obvious? good forums to check out (just registered on Online Drummer)? ways to stay motivated when the frustration comes? tips on sound proofing? maybe pics of your drum sets and placement? how essential are lessons? really, anything you care to share.
thanks!
You're definitely taking steps in the right direction. Out of all the things you listed Rudiments are the most important to learn. Also make sure you learn how to hold your sticks properly and you learn good form as opposed to trying for speed and power. Also, learn to read percussion sheet music. I'll post some pics of my kit up so you can see how I set them up.
.i see lots of professional drummers using 1 bass drum with two pedals? didn't think it was all that necessary to have two bass drums . . .
If you use a double bass pedal (though don't bother until you've got your right foot technique down) then you can later on have room for more pedals. Like this ****er Thomas Lang he plays entire beats only with his feet:
One of the main points to becoming a great drummer is limb independence, rudiments help this.
Goto drummerworld.com too and check out the videos there, that site has around 200 of the greatest drummers in the world on, session or otherwise. It helps you to gain a great vocabulary if you listen to sh*t loads of other styles.
i see lots of professional drummers using 1 bass drum with two pedals? didn't think it was all that necessary to have two bass drums . . .
It's not. But you get some better intonation out of it, and your heads last longer.
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Originally Posted by matty_b_bop
what did you mean by your second part? is that a song, or were you referring to one pedal?
It's a song. By Metallica. Either download it or sell your drum kit. Epic (and now archetypal) double bass at the end.
It's like a guitar player trying "Hotel California" or "Eruption" early on...not bright, but everyone has fun trying.
Some tips, though, for good songs to learn early would be "One Headlight" by The Wallflowers...good, straight beat in that song that is very repetitive, and easy to learn. Basic beat. Also anything by AC/DC, their drummer is horrible. Same with John Mellencamp. Like their music or not, their drumbeats are extremely simple and basic, driving beats, that are easy to learn before trying Slipknot or Led Zeppelin.
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It's a song. By Metallica. Either download it or sell your drum kit. Epic (and now archetypal) double bass at the end.
It's like a guitar player trying "Hotel California" or "Eruption" early on...not bright, but everyone has fun trying.
Its not that hard if you have a natural shining to music. Its just 1 2 3 4 5 6 snare 1 2 3 4 5 6 snare. Dyers eve is much more epic because you need crazy stamina.
I don't drum but my roommate goes nuts on guitar hero drums, hes on hard now... I play guitar on expert son! I wish guitar hero guitar transferred to regular guitar at all like the drums do. In for pics.
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as for those rudiments, this is what i used to practice them (your practice pad is good for this, as i bet your neighbors wouldn't like you practicing them on your kit all the time =P ): http://www.vicfirth.com/education/rudiments.html
i have a dw set up pretty much like travis barker's with a little differences here and there
good luck mayne, play to music a lot and aside from practicing rudiments, take fills from other drummers that you think are freaking awesome, cause it makes it more fun to play stuff you like and when improvising you can pull those outta your ass
ok, cool. yeah, i was definitely planning on taking lessons, just not sure how long to take them for. i mean, i need lessons on everything, even on how to limber up my wrists and hold sticks. however, i know youtube has a lot of info on there now.
i'll probably be on my practice pad more than the actual set for a while. i'm going to force myself to nail these rudiments because i'm using my arms and not my wrists when i play.
do you have any more pics of other drummers' setups? that was a cool pic!
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Originally Posted by Lambo2579
crash ride or regular ride? Don't crash on the ride lol gdmattyman...I've been playin for 12 years...not awesome, but I'm good.
i honestly have no idea. i thin just a regular ride, though. major beginner here.
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Originally Posted by Foe1605
You're definitely taking steps in the right direction. Out of all the things you listed Rudiments are the most important to learn. Also make sure you learn how to hold your sticks properly and you learn good form as opposed to trying for speed and power. Also, learn to read percussion sheet music. I'll post some pics of my kit up so you can see how I set them up.
thanks, dude. i know i have trouble using my wrists since i mainly just want to use my arms. it's time like this i wish i was in marching band with that snare!
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Originally Posted by A_Hard_Rain
strong unaware of an epic song
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don't really like Metallica, hence why i don't know much of their stuff.
this is what I want to play:
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Originally Posted by IIIIDIOTS
If you use a double bass pedal (though don't bother until you've got your right foot technique down) then you can later on have room for more pedals. Like this ****er Thomas Lang he plays entire beats only with his feet:
[youtube]tVIQvdFQBJk[youtube]
edit: this one shows his footwork more
[youtube]dvbRr3FjVl4[youtube]
do you use your toes or your whole foot when you use the bass pedal? does your heel stay on the ground, or is it elevated?
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Originally Posted by Pleb
Whatever you think of rudiments... Learn them.
One of the main points to becoming a great drummer is limb independence, rudiments help this.
Goto drummerworld.com too and check out the videos there, that site has around 200 of the greatest drummers in the world on, session or otherwise. It helps you to gain a great vocabulary if you listen to sh*t loads of other styles.
sweet, thanks. i will def check out that site. like i said, rudiments are going to my priority right now. i want to teach this as a college course, not just a hobby. i want to learn the basics first before I start doing things improperly.
i was told "practice makes permanent." which means, if i have bad technique and practice bad technique, i will always have bad technique.
Its not that hard if you have a natural shining to music. Its just 1 2 3 4 5 6 snare 1 2 3 4 5 6 snare. Dyers eve is much more epic because you need crazy stamina.
"Moby Dick." Let's start him with that one.
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Theres nothing i hate more in the world of drumming than that. It's mindless, it has no soul, no feel.
Listen to this guy... superb feel and fluidity, great technique, plenty of triplets, and has the speed of any of these metal guys (and this video is at a drum clinic/festival so before you say 'hes ruining the song'... he showing off his chops to a drummin audience, not on the radio playing to the masses.. :] )
Went out and got a set yesterday since I wanted another hobby. Assembled it and tuned it, but haven't had a chance to bang on it yet. I've wanted one since I was like 8, so I'm pretty excited. I've always been a finger-tapper and air-drummer, and I love playing Rock Band drums, lulz.
i've been doing a lot of researching and reading, but i figure i'd come here also since I've seen quite a few drummers on here. Below are some essential findings in my research:
Earplugs
Metronome
Lessons
Rudiments
Paradiddles
Play to music (iPod)
Practice pad (which i got)
I got a 5-piece set, a ride and a hi-hat (with all hardware, stands, etc) and a double-bass pedal. A good beginner kit, IMO.
I'm looking at playing hardcore, grind, thrash, death metal, jazz, etc. I mainly like faster music with emphasis on blast, but I'm really versatile in the music I listen to.
I know I'm going to need to work my way up, but I have nothing but time and determination.
Anyway, just wondering if there are any drummers around that can give me some good beginner advice that isn't blatantly obvious? good forums to check out (just registered on Online Drummer)? ways to stay motivated when the frustration comes? tips on sound proofing? maybe pics of your drum sets and placement? how essential are lessons? really, anything you care to share.
thanks!
Good call on the ear plugs. My drummer is almost deaf. Anyways I'm not really a drummer but I can hold a beat and I teach guitar, you seem to be on the right track, make sure that you practice the basics constantly and look for good excercises to start getting a little more ambidextrous, the excercises themselves will be extremely boring but they are necessary if you want to have good technique and play more technical pieces. Get a metronome that you can plug some headphones into.
i was told "practice makes permanent." which means, if i have bad technique and practice bad technique, i will always have bad technique.
This couldn't be more true, especially with drummers. I've known drummers who've had to quit in their 30's because of RSI, because of continued bad technique.
There's also a world of other things you can do by simply striking the drum in a particular way ( look up 'molear technique' )
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