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Old 10-06-2009, 04:26 PM   #1
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Would this be ridiculous? Training plan...

Ok before someone calls me retarded this is IN THEORY as I haven't yet started much. I love sport and was wondering whether this would be possible, so gain muscle and reduce fat (like a lot of people want to do) I also have no idea how my diet should be, but it would obviously be important:

Monday: Swim club (1hr) Muay Thai (90 mins)

Tuesday: Climbing (1hr) Weights (1 hr)

Wednesday: Swim (1 hr) Weights (1 hr)

Thursday: Swim (1 hr) Muay Thai (90 mins)

Friday: Run (30-60 mins) Weights (1 hr)

Saturday: Run (1 hr)

Sunday: REST

If anyone can give any advice/ opinions that would be appreciated. Thanks!
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Old 10-06-2009, 04:30 PM   #2
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It's definetely possible, but i wouldnt jump right into it, or you'll kill yourself.
Slowly condition yourself into it, unless that's what you've been doing, in that case go for it.
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Old 10-06-2009, 04:40 PM   #3
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I see what you're saying, but swimming and climbing are clubs, so I have to do them at those times every week really. And weights were going to support them and just build muscle/ strength. I could drop Muay Thai for a while though, but also need to keep running up or will lose stamina.

Thanks for the advice, I'll definitely consider ways of making it work.
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Old 10-06-2009, 05:44 PM   #4
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u cant gain muscle and lose fat at the same time



to gain muscle u needa eat in a caloric surpluss.
to lose fat, u need to be in a deficit
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Think about the three standard training variables- volume, intensity and frequency.

The program you have outlined has a high frequency, but if the volume and intensity are managed well then this program is fine. I can't look at the info you have given and say that it is or isn't crazy, all I can say is that training eleven times a week is a lot but that does not necesarily mean it is too much.
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Old 10-07-2009, 12:17 AM   #6
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yeap you have to build up to a program like that . I noticed from when I used to swim. I went from 5 sessions a week to 10 sessions a week suddenly. It killed me. I got sick after a while and had had to cut down until my body could cope with the work load

You would also have to increase your intake of calories by a lot to keep up with your program.
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Old 10-07-2009, 01:57 AM   #7
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u cant gain muscle and lose fat at the same time



to gain muscle u needa eat in a caloric surpluss.
to lose fat, u need to be in a deficit
Yeah I really didn't think when I wrote that. I'm aiming to lose fat first and then gain muscle, so guess I'll be at a slight caloric deficit until I've lost some fat, and then bulk up little with muscle.

And I guess easing into this schedule is the way forwards - it'd probably be easiest to start muay thai a little later, and not run too much at the beginning, just enough to maintain my current level.

Another question - this is a swim club at a university and I'm going in at intermediate level - anyone know what kind of format these types of classes follow?

Thanks for all replies so far - all have been repped
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u cant gain muscle and lose fat at the same time



to gain muscle u needa eat in a caloric surpluss.
to lose fat, u need to be in a deficit
False, i will argue that forever. You can burn fat on a calorie surplus, however I do agree that you cannot gain muscle on a calorie deficit. It all boils down to diet. If diet is spot on and correct you can build muscle while burning fat.
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Yeah I really didn't think when I wrote that. I'm aiming to lose fat first and then gain muscle, so guess I'll be at a slight caloric deficit until I've lost some fat, and then bulk up little with muscle.

And I guess easing into this schedule is the way forwards - it'd probably be easiest to start muay thai a little later, and not run too much at the beginning, just enough to maintain my current level.

Another question - this is a swim club at a university and I'm going in at intermediate level - anyone know what kind of format these types of classes follow?

Thanks for all replies so far - all have been repped
if your picture is current, i'd say you could stand to gain some weight. focus more on a proper diet. your workout plan seems like a lot, but as long as you have a good post workout meal, stretch, hydrate plenty, and also give yourself at least 3-4 hours between your sessions, i think you can do it.

in college i used to take lift weights, then immediately go into my aquatics class. then about 4 hours later would spend 1.5 hours at a local rock gym. did that for about 1 month straight. i did lose a lot of fat. if i'd eaten better i probably could have packed on some decent muscle.
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