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Old 10-04-2009, 12:05 PM   #1
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Question Pls help me understand what's wrong (Blood Work)?

Hi Everyone,

I would like to know what do you think about my blood test results below:

Testosterone, Total --> 8.68 ng/ml (Adults from 3.0 up to 9.5)
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Testosterone, Free (Index) --> 81.7 (Adults from 30 up to 150)
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T3, Total --> 95 ng/dL (80 up to 200)
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T3, Free --> 3.2 pg/mL (2.0 up to 4.7)
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T4, Total --> 6.7 ug/dl (4.5 up to 12.5)
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T4, Free --> 1.1 ng/dL (0.8 up to 1.8)
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DHEA Sulphate --> 271 ug/dl (Adults from 80 up to 560)
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TSH --> 2.33 uIU/mL (0.30 up to 5.00)
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FSH --> 1.7 mIU/mL (1.5 up to 18)
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LH --> 3.9 mIU/mL (1.5 up to 9.0)
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Estradiol (E2) --> 102 pg/mL (0 up to 55)
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Cortisol (9AM) --> 33 ug/dl (5.0 up to 22.0)
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Cortisol (9PM) --> 28 ug/dl (5.0 up to 22.0)
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What kind of health issues are you experiencing? ?
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Estradiol (E2) --> 102 pg/mL (0 up to 55)
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i really do not feel anything bad at all, and i was shocked when i saw the results of the E2!
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yeah, **** me, somehow I completely missed those last two numbers my first time reading OP.
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i really do not feel anything bad at all, and i was shocked when i saw the results of the E2!
Why did you get bloodwork done, are you coming off a cycle, or something?
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i really do not feel anything bad at all, and i was shocked when i saw the results of the E2!
what is estradiol and cortisol?
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Estradiol (E2) --> 102 pg/mL (0 up to 55)
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Cortisol (9AM) --> 33 ug/dl (5.0 up to 22.0)
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Exactly, that's what i was shocked about!
for the Cortisol, it might be Workload, not much sleeping and the Workout but for the E2 this is really very strange!
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what is estradiol and cortisol?
cortisol is a stress hormone, and estradiol... somewhere along the lines of a bad metabolite of estrogen?
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Why did you get bloodwork done, are you coming off a cycle, or something?
nothing at the moment, but i did one and only cycle, it was like 11 months ago, it was 6 weeks CEL H-Drol cycle. I am doing this blood test just for curiosity, and i found these values!
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nothing at the moment, but i did one and only cycle, it was like 11 months ago, it was 6 weeks CEL H-Drol cycle. I am doing this blood test just for curiosity, and i found these values!
hmm... yeah I really don't know what to tell you to make of that.
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nothing at the moment, but i did one and only cycle, it was like 11 months ago, it was 6 weeks CEL H-Drol cycle. I am doing this blood test just for curiosity, and i found these values!
What did you use for pct?
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What did you use for pct?
Other than the daily supplements my PCT (6 Weeks) was:
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However i do not think my current results have anything to do with a mild cycle that i did almost last year!
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However i do not think my current results have anything to do with a mild cycle that i did almost last year!
I agree, probably has nothing to do with the cycle, just making sure you actually had a pct for it. Did you speak with your doc. about this? Seems like it's serious stuff.

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I agree, probably has nothing to do with the cycle, just making sure you actually had a pct for it. Did you speak with your doc. about this? Seems like it's serious stuff.

http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2008/...ng-Male_01.htm
Not yet, but will see if anyone can help me out understand why this happened...
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Not yet, but will see if anyone can help me out understand why this happened...
Only person qualified to do that is a doctor. I highly recommend you go see one. Asking for help on a subject about your health on a forum is not a smart idea. 95% of the people here won't even know what Estradiol is, let alone know why you have a high amount of it.
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Only person qualified to do that is a doctor. I highly recommend you go see one. Asking for help on a subject about your health on a forum is not a smart idea. 95% of the people here won't even know what Estradiol is, let alone know why you have a high amount of it.
i asked because the other values looks normal and i do not complain from anything, so i guess the lab results are wrong and i have to verify it soon by doing blood tests in another lab, if the 2nd lab showed the same high values for both the Estradiol and Cortisol, for sure i am going to see a doc.
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Just ON 100% Whey and Xtend, not even a Multi Vs or EFA but i also take 4mg Tizanidine per day & Lyrica (75mg Pregabalin) per day for some injuries in the Neck (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...81&postcount=8) i have been on this treatment for 7 day now.
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just got the Cortisol (9PM) --> 28 ug/dl (5.0 up to 22.0)
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Blood Urea --> 47 mg/dl (10 up to 45)
Creatinine, serum --> 1 mg/dl (0.7 up to 1.3)
SGOT (AST) --> 20 U/L (Up to 34)
SGPT (ALT) --> 20 U/L (Up to 44)
ALP (Alkaline phosphatase) --> 86 U/L (30 up to 120)
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Uric Acid --> 4.6 mg/dl (3 up to 7)

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HDL-C --> 56 mg/dl (More than 40 mg/dl)
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Haematocrit (PCV) --> 45.3 (40 up to 50 %)
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MCH --> 27.9 (27 up to 33 pg)
MCHC --> 34.4 (31 up to 37 g/dl)
RDW-CV --> 13.7 (11.5 up to 15 %)
Platelet Count --> 164 (150 up to 450 thousand/cmm)
Total Leucocyte Count --> 6.2 (4 up to 11 thousand/cmm)
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Get off here and go see a DOCTOR instead of wasting your time! Damn dude. Tell him everything you are saying here and he will have a much better and accurate answer than any of us will. Why didn't you talk to him when you went in to get the results. He had to of said something about it.
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Get off here and go see a DOCTOR instead of wasting your time! Damn dude. Tell him everything you are saying here and he will have a much better and accurate answer than any of us will. Why didn't you talk to him when you went in to get the results. He had to of said something about it.
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i asked because the other values looks normal and i do not complain from anything, so i guess the lab results are wrong and i have to verify it soon by doing blood tests in another lab, if the 2nd lab showed the same high values for both the Estradiol and Cortisol, for sure i am going to see a doc.
i am not wasting time, once i get the tests redone i will compare the results and if the results came back with the same high values i will immediately check with an endocrinologist...
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Just ON 100% Whey and Xtend, not even a Multi Vs or EFA but i also take 4mg Tizanidine per day & Lyrica (75mg Pregabalin) per day for some injuries in the Neck (http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...81&postcount=8) i have been on this treatment for 7 day now.
With a quick look I found these,

Lyrica Side Effects Report #5348469-2
Physician from FRANCE reported LYRICA problem on May 25, 2007. Female patient, 62 years of age, was diagnosed with complex regional pain syndrome and was treated with LYRICA. After drug was administered, patient experienced the following problems/side effects: blood cortisol increased, chest discomfort, face oedema, fatigue, memory impairment, somnolence, speech disorder, weight increased, . LYRICA dosage: unknown. Patient recovered.

Lyrica Side Effects Report #5375383-9
LYRICA problem was reported by a Physician from FRANCE on June 19, 2007. Female patient, weighting 172.0 lb, was diagnosed with complex regional pain syndrome, disturbance in attention and was treated with LYRICA. After drug was administered, patient experienced the following problems/side effects: blood cortisol increased, chest discomfort, disturbance in attention, dysarthria, eye swelling, face oedema, fatigue, memory impairment, . LYRICA dosage: unknown. During the same period patient was treated with SULBUTIAMINE. Patient recovered.
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Sounds like you just need a cortisol reducer! Platelet count a little low.

Your values are very very good all in all, id be happy!
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Lyrica Side Effects Report #5348469-2
Physician from FRANCE reported LYRICA problem on May 25, 2007. Female patient, 62 years of age, was diagnosed with complex regional pain syndrome and was treated with LYRICA. After drug was administered, patient experienced the following problems/side effects: blood cortisol increased, chest discomfort, face oedema, fatigue, memory impairment, somnolence, speech disorder, weight increased, . LYRICA dosage: unknown. Patient recovered.

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LYRICA problem was reported by a Physician from FRANCE on June 19, 2007. Female patient, weighting 172.0 lb, was diagnosed with complex regional pain syndrome, disturbance in attention and was treated with LYRICA. After drug was administered, patient experienced the following problems/side effects: blood cortisol increased, chest discomfort, disturbance in attention, dysarthria, eye swelling, face oedema, fatigue, memory impairment, . LYRICA dosage: unknown. During the same period patient was treated with SULBUTIAMINE. Patient recovered.
Thanks Matt but what about the E2 do you have any explanation why it is too high?
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Sounds like you just need a cortisol reducer! Platelet count a little low.

Your values are very very good all in all, id be happy!
Even with that high value of E2?
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Thanks Matt but what about the E2 do you have any explanation why it is too high?
I did last night but my computer crashed before I could get it up. It was an interaction with the other drug you were using IIRC. Let me see if I can find it again.

It would be interesting to see what would happen if you were to get tested off the medicine or to add something like LX. Im not saying you should but it has got me thinking.
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I did last night but my computer crashed before I could get it up. It was an interaction with the other drug you were using IIRC. Let me see if I can find it again.

It would be interesting to see what would happen if you were to get tested off the medicine or to add something like LX. Im not saying you should but it has got me thinking.
Thanks Matt, i will be waiting for your feedback...
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