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    Originally Posted by Quadzilla99 View Post
    The whole point is to take it a specific way preworkout. Read the first page at least.
    Within an hour preWO on an empty stomach and with optional carnitine and GMS… A lot of questions out there for a very simple and effective dosing protocol
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    Starting another XFA run next week. Can't wait to start getting the comments again. Whenever I run a cycle of XFA I always have people tell me I look bigger.

    Any issue with taking XFA and Super Cissus?
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    Also I noticed that the label is all proprietary amounts. I was trying to figure out how much fish oil is in the 4 pill dose. It was my understanding that the difference between XF and XFA was that fish oil was added to aid in joint support. Can somebody please clarify this for me? thanks!
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    Originally Posted by Mikey Palmice View Post

    Any issue with taking XFA and Super Cissus?
    I would dose them > 4 hours apart.
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    Originally Posted by aaronuconn View Post
    I would dose them > 4 hours apart.
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    Originally Posted by Mikey Palmice View Post
    Also I noticed that the label is all proprietary amounts. I was trying to figure out how much fish oil is in the 4 pill dose. It was my understanding that the difference between XF and XFA was that fish oil was added to aid in joint support. Can somebody please clarify this for me? thanks!
    Very low dose of fish oil, and added boswellia to help with the joint pain.
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    Is having it on a full stomach really that big of a deal? I'm about to kick off my XF cycle in a couple of weeks and planned to take it with my morning pre-workout shake; Oats, protein, GMS, instant coffee... Alongside a banana. Didn't think that would make much of a difference, but it seems taking it on an empty stomach is the way to go.
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    Originally Posted by OfficerCartman View Post
    Is having it on a full stomach really that big of a deal? I'm about to kick off my XF cycle in a couple of weeks and planned to take it with my morning pre-workout shake; Oats, protein, GMS, instant coffee... Alongside a banana. Didn't think that would make much of a difference, but it seems taking it on an empty stomach is the way to go.
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    Originally Posted by Mr.Cooper69 View Post
    Take it preworkout
    Thanks for chiming in, Coop! Would taking XF ~45 minutes after my breakfast shake suffice?

    I do take Na-r-ALA (glycobol) about 20-30 minutes prior to my breakfast pre-workout shake while getting my **** ready in the morning. I could just take my XF then instead since I'll be fasted on an empty stomach. Only reason I didn't mention it is because my work schedule varies... Some days my shake will be 30 minutes pre-workout, others as long as 90 minutes or more. :/
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    Originally Posted by OfficerCartman View Post
    Thanks for chiming in, Coop! Would taking XF ~45 minutes after my breakfast shake suffice?

    I do take Na-r-ALA (glycobol) about 20-30 minutes prior to my breakfast pre-workout shake while getting my **** ready in the morning. I could just take my XF then instead since I'll be fasted on an empty stomach. Only reason I didn't mention it is because my work schedule varies... Some days my shake will be 30 minutes pre-workout, others as long as 90 minutes or more. :/
    Shouldn't be much interaction there w the ALA and the ArA 30 min before breakfast. It takes some giant doses of anti oxidants and ingredients with light anti inflammatory properties to counteract the benefits of X-Factor supplementation.
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    Originally Posted by SwolenONE View Post
    Shouldn't be much interaction there w the ALA and the ArA 30 min before breakfast. It takes some giant doses of anti oxidants and ingredients with light anti inflammatory properties to counteract the benefits of X-Factor supplementation.
    Thank you, Sir.

    My concern wasn't so much combining XF with Na-r-ALA, as it was with me taking it as long as 90 minutes - 2 hours preWO since it's recommended to dose it within an hour.

    At 3 bottles it's not the cheapest stack to run, so I'd like to do what I can to maximize any possible results. It's just unfortunate that my work schedule sort of complicates things.
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    hello,

    i have 9 XF OG now. i'm going to order gaspari's multi since i can't use ot because i don't need any anti-inflammatory properties. i will also add glycergrow. what else should i get swolenone? i check myosynergy, it's not available. i'm going to do this on my cut along with ec stack + lean xtreme.

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    Originally Posted by OfficerCartman View Post
    Thank you, Sir.

    My concern wasn't so much combining XF with Na-r-ALA, as it was with me taking it as long as 90 minutes - 2 hours preWO since it's recommended to dose it within an hour.

    At 3 bottles it's not the cheapest stack to run, so I'd like to do what I can to maximize any possible results. It's just unfortunate that my work schedule sort of complicates things.
    You could give it an hour between eating and your workout and take the XF immediately preWO.

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    hello,

    i have 9 XF OG now. i'm going to order gaspari's multi since i can't use ot because i don't need any anti-inflammatory properties. i will also add glycergrow. what else should i get swolenone? i check myosynergy, it's not available. i'm going to do this on my cut along with ec stack + lean xtreme.

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