got gyno from M-drol

**homero99** · 10-03-2009, 08:27 PM

sup
I already made a topic when I my gyno started
I started taking mdrol 10mg/day, in the 5 day I saw that my nipples was getting puffy
so I instantly stopped the mdrol cycle and began with my PCT, nolva + clomid

I already went into a doctor but he doesn't seem to know too much about gyno from steroids
he said I can take Nolvadex for two months, so it's been almost a month since I started the PCT and my nipples still puffy, no sign of progress

I read a lot about gyno, but there's too many controversial things
I'm not sure if nolvadex alone can help with gyno caused by mdrol, because I read that the gyno caused by mdrol/superdrol is progesterone related

so I'm not sure if I can try another medication like letro or something else before I go to surgery,

enlighten me plz

**ljd15** · 10-03-2009, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by homero99

sup
I already made a topic when I my gyno started
I started taking mdrol 10mg/day, in the 5 day I saw that my nipples was getting puffy
so I instantly stopped the mdrol cycle and began with my PCT, nolva + clomid

I already went into a doctor but he doesn't seem to know too much about gyno from steroids
he said I can take Nolvadex for two months, so it's been almost a month since I started the PCT and my nipples still puffy, no sign of progress

I read a lot about gyno, but there's too many controversial things
I'm not sure if nolvadex alone can help with gyno caused by mdrol, because I read that the gyno caused by mdrol/superdrol is progesterone related

so I'm not sure if I can try another medication like letro or something else before I go to surgery,

enlighten me plz

i'll enlighten you, that's what you get for taking steroids..

**tornpresence76** · 10-03-2009, 08:29 PM

LETRO should be ur friend, i dont think m-drol would cause gyno so quick, have u ever used a ph before?

**tornpresence76** · 10-03-2009, 08:31 PM

ALSO DUDE u might be overreacting, puffy nipples ARE COMMON during ph cycles, its when u feel bumps, EXTREME nipple soreness, etc,

name ur symptoms, and ur dosing of nolva and such

and letro helps with gyno

**stevenmilligan** · 10-03-2009, 08:31 PM

Are there hard disc-like lumps behind your nipples? If not, you don't have gyno. And your not gonna get gyno from 5 days of 10mg M-Drol. WTF...people are so damn paranoid.

**tornpresence76** · 10-03-2009, 08:34 PM

haha seriously, i agree ^^^^^^^^^ ppl need to learn.......... mdrol cant mess with ur estrogen levels so dramatically to cause gyno in five days, so the only way i can see u having gyno is from a previous cycle, might have gotten delayed gyno or did ur last cycle wrong

**Mr_OG** · 10-03-2009, 08:39 PM

i've seen some wrong in this thread. OP, M drol gyno is caused from prolactin issues, not estrogen. Nolvadex won't do much. Clomid will be your best bet for a SERM.

Also, since it's prolactin, take some B-6 and l-dopa. E.G. Vitex

Also stated, you may be being paranoid. Gyno is the bump behind your nipple. If it's just puffy, it's usually normal on a hormonal cycle.

**homero99** · 10-03-2009, 08:42 PM

there's no lump, but my nipples are VISIBLE puffy, bigger and larger
it's not paranoid, if my gyno don't regress, I will have to make a surgery because there's no chance of living with my nipples like this

I never used ph before, nor any other steroids, so it's obviously mdrol cause
I'm taking nolva 40mg/day and clomid 20mg/day since september 13
oh, I started taking 400mg of b6 this week

letro can make the gyno regress since nolva isn't helping until now??
or it's normal this puffyness taking so long to disappear ?

**Mr_OG** · 10-03-2009, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by homero99

there's no lump, but my nipples are VISIBLE puffy, bigger and larger
it's not paranoid, if my gyno don't regress, I will have to make a surgery because there's no chance of living with my nipples like this

I never used ph before, nor any other steroids,
I'm taking nolva 40mg/day since september 13

letro can make the gyno regress since nolva isn't helping until now??
or it's normal this puffyness taking so long to disappear ?

OP look at my thread above. Nolvadex is NO GOOD FOR M DROL GYNO

**tornpresence76** · 10-03-2009, 08:46 PM

ya prolactin issues would be from superdrol like he said above....... clomid or letro!!!!!!!!! and sound like paranoia to me..... no lumps??? whats teh problem then? and why would u start with a strong ph like superdrol for ur first cycle...... no good......

**Mr_OG** · 10-03-2009, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by tornpresence76

ya prolactin issues would be from superdrol like he said above....... clomid or letro!!!!!!!!! and sound like paranoia to me..... no lumps??? whats teh problem then? and why would u start with a strong ph like superdrol for ur first cycle...... no good......

Superdrol for your first? You deserve to have puffy nipples. I hope your nipples stay puffy for a LONG time to freak you out and keep you self conscious. I would never wish gyno upon someone like that, just puffy nipples to mess with your head

**tornpresence76** · 10-03-2009, 08:52 PM

agree man! i had fricken puffy nipples for about a month after a tren cycle,

dude u need to get a blood test done, cause if ur flipping out and jacking urself up with almost a MONTH worth of serm, u might be ****ing ur self up even more.

get ur levels check asap before u end up with perm dmg

**stevenmilligan** · 10-03-2009, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by homero99

there's no lump, but my nipples are VISIBLE puffy, bigger and larger
it's not paranoid, if my gyno don't regress, I will have to make a surgery because there's no chance of living with my nipples like this

I never used ph before, nor any other steroids, so it's obviously mdrol cause
I'm taking nolva 40mg/day and clomid 20mg/day since september 13
oh, I started taking 400mg of b6 this week

letro can make the gyno regress since nolva isn't helping until now??
or it's normal this puffyness taking so long to disappear ?

WTF kinda dosing is that? Your taking twice as much nolva as clomid? Do you realize that Nolva requires a much lower dose?

**WIllplaya89** · 10-03-2009, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by Mr_OG

i've seen some wrong in this thread. OP, M drol gyno is caused from prolactin issues, not estrogen. Nolvadex won't do much. Clomid will be your best bet for a SERM.

Also, since it's prolactin, take some B-6 and l-dopa. E.G. Vitex

Also stated, you may be being paranoid. Gyno is the bump behind your nipple. If it's just puffy, it's usually normal on a hormonal cycle.

there it is,
there is no cure for being stupid though

**ljd15** · 10-03-2009, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by stevenmilligan

WTF kinda dosing is that? Your taking twice as much nolva as clomid? Do you realize that Nolva requires a much lower dose?

sigh.

**BBmisc420196** · 10-03-2009, 08:55 PM

Dude. run vitamin B6 @ 200-600mg. Serious, hella cheap and its works.

**homero99** · 10-03-2009, 08:57 PM

sorry, I'm taking 2 caps of clomid , that it's 100mg not 20mg as I said before
and tornpresence76 what's the problem with taking a SERM for almost a month ?
it's the standard PCT period, isn't?

**tornpresence76** · 10-03-2009, 08:59 PM

not for a 5 day cycle................. im telling u man, get ur test levels checked, ur putting chemicals in ur boddy that u dont need at all

**manofmany** · 10-03-2009, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by Mr_OG

Superdrol for your first? You deserve to have puffy nipples. I hope your nipples stay puffy for a LONG time to freak you out and keep you self conscious. I would never wish gyno upon someone like that, just puffy nipples to mess with your head

And who are you to chastise someone for their decision to run SD as a first cycle? I'll take that as just repeating something you've seen on the forum.

**WIllplaya89** · 10-03-2009, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by manofmany

And who are you to chastise someone for their decision to run SD as a first cycle? I'll take that as just repeating something you've seen on the forum.

congrats on post 13,500 ^^^

**Mr_OG** · 10-03-2009, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by manofmany

And who are you to chastise someone for their decision to run SD as a first cycle? I'll take that as just repeating something you've seen on the forum.

It's more like tough love. And it's not something I've seen on forum, it's more on the lines of logic and common sense. And yea, congrats on your #13,000 whatever post haha

**stevenmilligan** · 10-03-2009, 09:17 PM

The title of this thread should be "not" gyno from superdrol.

**homero99** · 10-03-2009, 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by stevenmilligan

The title of this thread should be "not" gyno from superdrol.

WTF are you saying ? that I'm getting gyno from using something wrong?
I posted here in this forum when the problem began, and people wasn't sure what to say
some said in the topic that gyno from mdrol is progestin related, others said that it's prolactin
some said that I should take nolva+clomid, other said that I sjhould take just clomid

all the information that was given to me HERE was controversial
so I went to a ****ing doctor and he prescribed me nolva, and I'm taking

so stay off my thread if all that you can say is **** and isn't helping anybody

and thanks for everybody that are really helping me with good information

**Fat Ryan** · 10-03-2009, 09:37 PM

man, people gotta stop comin onto an online forum for medical help. over the years ive realized that the "facts" stated on this board are nothing more than popular opinion based on no actual scientific evidence. one theory stirs around for a little, then a new one pops up. last time i was here, EVERYONE said that superdrol and its clones CANNOT cause gyno...period, just cant happen. and there was def no mention of prolactin issues. that said, OP go get blood test and see a doc who specializes in this field. you just cant go by what people online say. does seem odd that youd get gyno so soon, but you wont know 100% until you get checked out.

**homero99** · 10-03-2009, 09:46 PM

can you tell me what kind of doctor is specialized in this area ?
because I went into an Endocrinologist and he doesn't knew anything about it u_u

I'm gonna see an Urologist monday because I had another side effect after use mdrol
I found a lump in my testicle so I went into a doctor and he said that it's probably varicose, and said I should see an Urologist
he should know anything about gyno ?

**Fat Ryan** · 10-03-2009, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by homero99

can you tell me what kind of doctor is specialized in this area ?
because I went into an Endocrinologist and he doesn't knew anything about it u_u

I'm gonna see an Urologist monday because I had another side effect after use mdrol
I found a lump in my testicle so I went into a doctor and he said that it's probably varicose, and said I should see an Urologist
he should know anything about gyno ?

i honestly dont know. i would have suggested an endo, but youve been there. perhaps another endo? or maybe someone else here knows more about other docs.

**epicwin** · 10-03-2009, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by homero99

sup
I already made a topic when I my gyno started
I started taking mdrol 10mg/day, in the 5 day I saw that my nipples was getting puffy
so I instantly stopped the mdrol cycle and began with my PCT, nolva + clomid

I already went into a doctor but he doesn't seem to know too much about gyno from steroids
he said I can take Nolvadex for two months, so it's been almost a month since I started the PCT and my nipples still puffy, no sign of progress

I read a lot about gyno, but there's too many controversial things
I'm not sure if nolvadex alone can help with gyno caused by mdrol, because I read that the gyno caused by mdrol/superdrol is progesterone related

so I'm not sure if I can try another medication like letro or something else before I go to surgery,

enlighten me plz

Its a side, and it looks like you're prone. Try letro.

If that doesnt work, then eat like a mofo, let your body recover (blood work prefered) and do another cycle.

As you keep training start saving up for gyno surgery and get it done at the end.

If you did proper pct it cant be that bad to live with temp?

**stevenmilligan** · 10-04-2009, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by homero99

WTF are you saying ? that I'm getting gyno from using something wrong?
I posted here in this forum when the problem began, and people wasn't sure what to say
some said in the topic that gyno from mdrol is progestin related, others said that it's prolactin
some said that I should take nolva+clomid, other said that I sjhould take just clomid

all the information that was given to me HERE was controversial
so I went to a ****ing doctor and he prescribed me nolva, and I'm taking

so stay off my thread if all that you can say is **** and isn't helping anybody

and thanks for everybody that are really helping me with good information

Nah, I was saying you don't have gyno at all. If you want to get a real medical answer, though, search for an endo with knowledge of steroids. It is hard to find a doctor that actually knows about this subject. Most will just tell you the wrong thing or say they don't know. But hear me on this, if you don't have hard lumps behind your nipples, it is NOT gyno. That's what gyno is. Not puffy nipples or fat. What is your body fat % at? And do your nipples shrink to normal size when they get hard? (srs)

**homero99** · 10-04-2009, 09:19 AM

yeah, my nipples shrink to the normal size when hard
I mean with ''no lump'' that there's no ''core'' inside my nipple as I heard some people said when they had gyno

my nipples are visible bigger since I began my cycle, and almost a month later they still the same, isn't fat obviously because my nipples WASN'T like that before mdrol
or are you saying that mdrol caused me some kind of lipomasty ??

how that isn't gyno ? -__-;

**jobber4eva** · 10-04-2009, 09:20 AM

what would be an ideal PH to start with if you've never used anything before?

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