Bentover Barbell Row to Bicep Curl Ratio

[Jack_Lupino]

I know everyone will be a little different but does anyone know of a general guideline for the average difference between someone's row weight versus their curl?

I've been able to find similar ratios for like bench vs. overhead... average overhead press being about 50-60% of bench. Also leg press versus squat.

However this ratio doesn't seem to apply here... I'm thinking more like 70-80% so like someone who can curl 100 is doing 150 rows? I know lat strength plays a huge part in this and I'm not trying to over simplify but still curious.

Thoughts?

I just checked mine and I'm at 60%

[JResendes]

i can bb curl 85 for 12

row 125 for 12

[JResendes]

edit: i have only just started doing rows 2 weeks ago

[J_Bo]

2.365:1

[Jack_Lupino]

i can bb curl 85 for 12

row 125 for 12

one vote for 68%

[Jack_Lupino]

2.365:1

beast!

[Karaim]

I know everyone will be a little different but does anyone know of a general guideline for the average difference between someone's row weight versus their curl?

I've been able to find similar ratios for like bench vs. overhead... average overhead press being about 50-60% of bench. Also leg press versus squat.

However this ratio doesn't seem to apply here... I'm thinking more like 70-80% so like someone who can curl 100 is doing 150 rows? I know lat strength plays a huge part in this and I'm not trying to over simplify but still curious.

Thoughts?

I calf raise 360 lbs. How much will I be able to hamstring curl?

[Jack_Lupino]

I calf raise 360 lbs. How much will I be able to hamstring curl?

because your calves assist in a ham curl? sigh...

[PaHulkster]

Your overhead press should never be 50-60% of your bench unless you are lifting equipped or an elite bencher. 80% is more like it if you want to have good strength balance.

Rows to curls is about 50-60 for me, but I don't train biceps heavy.

[Jack_Lupino]

Your overhead press should never be 50-60% of your bench unless you are lifting equipped or an elite bencher. 80% is more like it if you want to have good strength balance.

Rows to curls is about 50-60 for me, but I don't train biceps heavy.

Really? That's hardcore, guess I better start training up on shoulders then.

BTW, are you talking about standing or seated?

I know I can put more up standing using legs and back for more power...

[Ericisfly]

so guys i can do 50 pushups. how much should i be able to bench?

[-Lucifer]

Hai.

I do DB kickbacks with the 100s. How much could I bench?

[Karaim]

because your calves assist in a ham curl? sigh...

Sigh is right.

BB Rows are a BACK exercise and you should aim for MINIMAL bicep involvement. BB Curls are a BICEP exercise and you shouldn't be swinging and using your back. Why would you ever compare the two?

This thread is even stupider than DB v. BB bench comparison threads.

[Karaim]

Hai.

I do DB kickbacks with the 100s. How much could I bench?

About Three-Fiddy.

[Jack_Lupino]

so guys i can do 50 pushups. how much should i be able to bench?

that's more like fast vs. slow twitch comparison...

seriously all you guys are so cool, i hope one day i am as cool as you.

with the exception of PaHulkster... what is that guys problem?

giving an honest opinion/advice instead of grief... what a jerk!

[Jack_Lupino]

1. back
2. biceps

You can't do the math..

I'm not looking for a clear cut answer here or an exact science... I was simply looking for people's personal experience here out of curiosity...

this is why I included the qualifiers "I know everyone will be a little different" and "the lats play a HUGE part"

would it really take you people any more time to just say something like

1. 200
2. 115

I'm not a smartass...

[Karaim]

that's more like fast vs. slow twitch comparison...

seriously all you guys are so cool, i hope one day i am as cool as you.

with the exception of PaHulkster... what is that guys problem?

giving an honest opinion/advice instead of grief... what a jerk!

You're already much cooler than I am.

[Tyrbolift]

Just a relative guess (proper form is implied)

1. 160
2. 80

[bodybuilder127]

Bench 235x5
Seated Military for 185x5

BB Curl 110x5
BB Row 225x5

[Tyrbolift]

Bench 235x5
Seated Military for 185x5

BB Curl 110x5
BB Row 225x5

Vids or negs

[Jack_Lupino]

so there's a couple more at 50%

looking more like 50-60% so far.

[KyleAaron]

I have no idea what I can curl, I haven't curled once this year in a workout.

I do a 45 degree bent over row of 5 reps of 80kg (a touch over my current bodyweight), and can do 15 chinups.

There's no rule of if you can lift this much in this exercise, you can lift that much in some other. I know a guy who can overhead press more than he can bench - why? He likes the overhead press and trains it a lot, he doesn't like bench. And there are zillions of guys who can bench more than they can squat - why? Same reasons.

We can talk about what's good for health and posture, or good for some particular sport, but there aren't really anatomical rules like the OP is proposing.

[Jack_Lupino]

I have no idea what I can curl, I haven't curled once this year in a workout.

I do a 45 degree bent over row of 5 reps of 80kg (a touch over my current bodyweight), and can do 15 chinups.

There's no rule of if you can lift this much in this exercise, you can lift that much in some other. I know a guy who can overhead press more than he can bench - why? He likes the overhead press and trains it a lot, he doesn't like bench. And there are zillions of guys who can bench more than they can squat - why? Same reasons.

We can talk about what's good for health and posture, or good for some particular sport, but there aren't really anatomical rules like the OP is proposing.

Thanks for the reply but FFS what's with people and their apparent lack of reading comprehension? I never said there was a rule...

[hey_papi85]

Some data for you:

BB Row (pendlay): 200x5
BB Row (45 deg): 225x5
BB Curl: 110x5 (guess, I can do 3x8 with 100)

BB Bench: 215x5
Standing BB Press (strict): 150-155x5

[bodybuilder127]

Vids or negs

Vids of what? It's not like my lifts are that much stronger compared to everyone else

[-Lucifer]

Vids of what? It's not like my lifts are that much stronger compared to everyone else

You shoulder press 185 x 5 and weigh 180.

That's very impressive.

[bodybuilder127]

You shoulder press 185 x 5 and weigh 180.

That's very impressive.

Thanks. Im around 187 now....those stats are good 1/2 year old.

[parabolas]

I can run a 6:30 mile.

How much should I be able to deadlift?

[-Lucifer]

I can run a 6:30 mile.
How much should I be able to deadlift?

350 x 350.

[Street_Ryda]

I BB curl 155 x 8 loose (last time I checked) and according to BB.com, my 1RM would be 163 on rows, and that's loose aswell. I only stopped being a d-bag a few weeks ago and started training back and legs.