ACL tear, prohormones and football

pavb10 · 09-28-2009, 01:07 PM

I play college football and recently completly tore my acl. I will undergo surgery to repair it within the next week or so. I was wondering how best to take a prohormone during PT to accelerate the musculature in my leg. I have posted on AM for a couple years now but not a lot of people there have much experience with this issue. Any help would be greatly appreciated...testing will not be an issue as i will be redshirted. Any other hints on getting through PT faster would also be great. Thanks guys!!

TMac26 · 09-28-2009, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by pavb10

I play college football and recently completly tore my acl. I will undergo surgery to repair it within the next week or so. I was wondering how best to take a prohormone during PT to accelerate the musculature in my leg. I have posted on AM for a couple years now but not a lot of people there have much experience with this issue. Any help would be greatly appreciated...testing will not be an issue as i will be redshirted. Any other hints on getting through PT faster would also be great. Thanks guys!!

I tore my ACL in high school. Completely shredded it and had to have my patella grafted to make a new ACL in my left knee. I will tell you first hand that PH's will not aide you in recovery. If anything they will hinder you. You best bet is do whatever the PT wants you to do. If they give you exercises to do at home, do them. Put forth a full effort when recuperating. I know from first hand experience you can come back to full strength in good time. I had my surgery in November and by March I was able to compete in track and field. Time, rest and PT are the only things that are going to help you get back to normal.

wallyworld34 · 09-28-2009, 01:13 PM

yeah man agree with above.... listen to the PT , work hard, gonna hurt but you ll be back fine, i blew out my miniscus and acl , had it repaired , then tore my MCL still torn but i dont want surgery again , but im fine , just a long road ahead man. good luck.

pavb10 · 09-28-2009, 01:17 PM

Yeah thats what im heard im just thinking of my other lifts to as I will be out of the gym a month or so and wana have good numbers for spring ball in 5-6 months. Why might prohormones hurt recovery? I was not thinking of taking them the first couple weeks but getting at them once i can start running and doing basic excercises to accelerate things. Ive been through PT a bunch of times for other things and was just thinking PH would help a bit.

TMac26 · 09-28-2009, 01:19 PM

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Yeah thats what im heard im just thinking of my other lifts to as I will be out of the gym a month or so and wana have good numbers for spring ball in 5-6 months. Why might prohormones hurt recovery? I was not thinking of taking them the first couple weeks but getting at them once i can start running and doing basic excercises to accelerate things. Ive been through PT a bunch of times for other things and was just thinking PH would help a bit.

Alot of PH's on the market are currently hard to find (most sites have them d/c at the moment). And to top it off alot of them (not a 100% on this) dry out the joints which is something you DO NOT want at this point in time.

pavb10 · 09-28-2009, 01:24 PM

I have a couple of bottles of havoc P-plex and two tubes of 1-T already. Ive heard that the 1-t doesnt really dry things out but i def understand what your saying though. Is there anything else you could think of? I just wana get back as soon as possible. At the day of the injury i was 246 and i think ive already lost ten pounds or so. Im gonna have a lot to make back up.

steroloid · 09-28-2009, 01:24 PM

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Alot of PH's on the market are currently hard to find (most sites have them d/c at the moment). And to top it off alot of them (not a 100% on this) dry out the joints which is something you DO NOT want at this point in time.

stay away from all that till you recover... muscle Hmm maybe but joints and ligiments no...

pavb10 · 09-28-2009, 01:26 PM

When exactly would it be a good time? My right leg is about half the size of my left one and its only been ten days....So i feel like i gotta do something serious with recovery.

TMac26 · 09-28-2009, 01:29 PM

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When exactly would it be a good time? My right leg is about half the size of my left one and its only been ten days....So i feel like i gotta do something serious with recovery.

Just time man. If anything make sure you are getting plenty of fish oil and maybe a joint supplement to aide in recovery. Muscle has a memory, so when you starting working you'll get your size and strength back. IMO its not worth the risk of permanently messing up your knee for a few short cuts.

pavb10 · 09-28-2009, 01:33 PM

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Just time man. If anything make sure you are getting plenty of fish oil and maybe a joint supplement to aide in recovery. Muscle has a memory, so when you starting working you'll get your size and strength back. IMO its not worth the risk of permanently messing up your knee for a few short cuts.

I dont ask questions cuz i dont beleive you..I have heard that time is the only thing that will help but how could the prohormones make things worse? Like will the drying out affect the graft or what not? I just have no idea...thanks

TMac26 · 09-28-2009, 01:37 PM

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I dont ask questions cuz i dont beleive you..I have heard that time is the only thing that will help but how could the prohormones make things worse? Like will the drying out affect the graft or what not? I just have no idea...thanks

Ah. Well think of it this way. What if you are on those PH's and you are gaining lots of good strength and growing like crazy. What if that ACL is not ready for that kind of punishment? You might be fine but then again you might tear it up because you are growing and getting stronger faster than the new ACL can keep up.

Hansolo261 · 09-28-2009, 01:39 PM

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Just time man. If anything make sure you are getting plenty of fish oil and maybe a joint supplement to aide in recovery. Muscle has a memory, so when you starting working you'll get your size and strength back. IMO its not worth the risk of permanently messing up your knee for a few short cuts.

fish oil works wonders when on any type of recovery. I recently f*cked my shoulder up again. I high dosed my fish oil and I didnt lose much at all. Glucosamine, chondrotin and msm are good also.

pavb10 · 09-28-2009, 01:44 PM

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Ah. Well think of it this way. What if you are on those PH's and you are gaining lots of good strength and growing like crazy. What if that ACL is not ready for that kind of punishment? You might be fine but then again you might tear it up because you are growing and getting stronger faster than the new ACL can keep up.

yeah thats true i see what your saying. The way i was looking at was that im gonna stick to the PT 6 month program no matter what. If my legs happen to get stronger faster than planned i was not gonna hasten the recovery but just hope that extra muscle helps stabilize the acl earlier. I wasnt gonna take the prohormones to shorten the recovery but to make sure im 110 percent at the end. I know the graft needs to osify and nothing will help that, but ive been reading that the stronger the quadreceps and hamstrings that the less pressure will be put on the knee. I dunno if that makes any sense or is just stupid but i really wana be great when im back...not just weak coming off recovery.

pavb10 · 09-28-2009, 01:45 PM

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fish oil works wonders when on any type of recovery. I recently f*cked my shoulder up again. I high dosed my fish oil and I didnt lose much at all. Glucosamine, chondrotin and msm are good also.

I have never taken fish oil...i will def pick some up and mega dose it. I have taken osteo sport and that seemed to help with a shoulder injury but it takes a real time for all that stuff to kick in and its expensive.