strange ab training

[sj8708]

Feel like my ab trainings a bit of a missing link in my training. At the moment im doing 4 sets of weighted crunches, with the plate behind my head and my legs up not rested on a bench and 4 sets of weighted leg raises with the db between my feet. With everything else once i reach for example in a 8 -12 rep range, 12 in my 1st exercise i will add 5kg the next time i do this workout. Ive tried this with abs but instead increasing by 2.5kg everytime and i now have a 10kg plate for the crunches and 5kg db for the leg raises. The leg raises arent to bad and they are no means easy, i always fail in the desired rep range but the crunches just feel like you could hand me any weight to a certain extent lol and i would find a way of crunchin it to 12 reps. Im doing it really slow and controlled but still the weight just keeps going up, seems funny to be moaning about that, if only it was my bench lol! As the resistance has gone up the only sign of failure ive shown is not being able to crunch up as high does this mean i have failed? And also my legs are a little swingy as they arent rested on anything, should this matter and should i just keep increasing weight untill i fail or is something not right? I have seen people that bench around 110kg and they use 10kg plates for crunches like me and are in really good shape, something cant be right lol!
Be grateful for help

[brudman]

What is the question now?

[SuffolkPunch]

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By the way, do ab roller - this never fails to torch my abs

[sj8708]

Originally Posted by brudman

What is the question now?

Obviously what is a good ab routine because im having troubles, not a bad question just like the last one i posted, so this one must deserve negative rep to lol!!

[JRLapiana]

if you find you are using X amount of weight, and then X+10 and then X+20 with no difference your either not using enough weight or your form is improper.

watch your form, we forget how important it is. i used to do old fashioned crunches everyday, 100-200 a day. so once i started working out most ab exercises were useless. then i grabbed an exercise ball (the big ones you lay on) do some crunches on that, do them slowly and do them properly. make sure you bring your head back as far as you can and only contract your abs until you feel the pressure on ur abs.

also, try a reverse crunch with the ball. lay on your back, and grab the ball with the back of ur heels hold it there. then, once you have it there, go ahead and BRING UP YOUR BACK, you want to CURL your HIPS off the ground. you should REALLY feel this when done properly. i do 3 set of each of those, 15,15,10 and i am literally doubling over in pain by the end of the sets.

hard work's always the answer

[wnc817]

Originally Posted by sj8708

Feel like my ab trainings a bit of a missing link in my training. At the moment im doing 4 sets of weighted crunches, with the plate behind my head and my legs up not rested on a bench and 4 sets of weighted leg raises with the db between my feet. With everything else once i reach for example in a 8 -12 rep range, 12 in my 1st exercise i will add 5kg the next time i do this workout. Ive tried this with abs but instead increasing by 2.5kg everytime and i now have a 10kg plate for the crunches and 5kg db for the leg raises. The leg raises arent to bad and they are no means easy, i always fail in the desired rep range but the crunches just feel like you could hand me any weight to a certain extent lol and i would find a way of crunchin it to 12 reps. Im doing it really slow and controlled but still the weight just keeps going up, seems funny to be moaning about that, if only it was my bench lol! As the resistance has gone up the only sign of failure ive shown is not being able to crunch up as high does this mean i have failed? And also my legs are a little swingy as they arent rested on anything, should this matter and should i just keep increasing weight untill i fail or is something not right? I have seen people that bench around 110kg and they use 10kg plates for crunches like me and are in really good shape, something cant be right lol!
Be grateful for help

I like to use the decline for situps, while holding a dumbell. I have seen a buddy of mine use a barbell on the decline, with bands on each end of the bar. He said that is the most intense ab workout he does.