creatine mono to creatine ester?

[BulgariaFitness]

So im using creatine mono now and i have 2 days left till im done.
I wanne start creatine ester
.do i need to take a break?
or can i start using it next week? right after
thx

[ALpump]

Give it at least a week

[Delgadido]

Originally Posted by BulgariaFitness

So im using creatine mono now and i have 2 days left till im done.
I wanne start creatine ester
.do i need to take a break?
or can i start using it next week? right after
thx

ur pose looks like it could be a girl

[snorkelman]

Have you already bought the CEE? If not, give serious consideration to not buying it. If you bought it, don't open it but rather return it.

Creatine monohydrate is superior in several aspects to creatine ethyl ester (CEE).
A recent study demonstrated that, when compared to creatine monohydrate, creatine ethyl ester (CEE) was not as effective at increasing serum and muscle creatine levels or in improving body composition, muscle mass, strength, and power. Here is a quote from the authors of the study: "our results seem to indicate that creatine estrication does not provide a superior alternative to creatine monohydrate for muscle creatine uptake."


Here's the citation for the study that I am talking about: "The effects of creatine ethyl ester supplementation combined with heavy resistance training on body composition, muscle performance, and serum and muscle creatine levels." Department of Health, Human Performance and Recreation, Baylor University, Box 97313, Waco, TX 76798, USA. darryn_willoughby@baylor.edu. J Int Soc Sports Nutr. 2009 Feb 19;6:6.

Compound this recent study against a 2007 study that showed that CEE rapidly degraded into creatinine while creatine mono stayed almost completely undegraded for 2 hours in simulated stomach acidity. Child, R. & Tallon, M.J. (2007). "Creatine ethyl ester rapidly degrades to creatinine in stomach acid." International Society of Sports Nutrition 4th Annual Meeting
http://www.jissn.com/content/6/1/6


"In contrast to the claims of All American Pharmaceutical and Natural Foods Corp., the rate of creatinine formation from CM was found to be less than 1% of the initial dose, demonstrating that CM is extremely stable under acidic conditions that replicate those of the stomach. This study also showed that KA supplementation actually resulted in 35% greater conversion of creatine to creatinine than CM."

"CEE is claimed to provide several advantages over CM because of increased solubility and stability. In practice, the addition of the ethyl group to creatine actually reduces acid stability and accelerates its breakdown to creatinine. This substantially reduces creatine availability in its esterified form and as a consequence creatines such as San CM2 and CE2 are inferior to CM as a source of free creatine."

http://www.npicenter.com/anm/templat...8806&zoneid=28

[jokerm-1]

Originally Posted by Delgadido

ur pose looks like it could be a girl

ahahah

[BulgariaFitness]

bump

[Reeper]

what u bumping for? read the post below

Originally Posted by snorkelman

Have you already bought the CEE? If not, give serious consideration to not buying it. If you bought it, don't open it but rather return it.

Creatine monohydrate is superior in several aspects to creatine ethyl ester (CEE).
A recent study demonstrated that, when compared to creatine monohydrate, creatine ethyl ester (CEE) was not as effective at increasing serum and muscle creatine levels or in improving body composition, muscle mass, strength, and power. Here is a quote from the authors of the study: "our results seem to indicate that creatine estrication does not provide a superior alternative to creatine monohydrate for muscle creatine uptake."


Here's the citation for the study that I am talking about: "The effects of creatine ethyl ester supplementation combined with heavy resistance training on body composition, muscle performance, and serum and muscle creatine levels." Department of Health, Human Performance and Recreation, Baylor University, Box 97313, Waco, TX 76798, USA. darryn_willoughby@baylor.edu. J Int Soc Sports Nutr. 2009 Feb 19;6:6.

Compound this recent study against a 2007 study that showed that CEE rapidly degraded into creatinine while creatine mono stayed almost completely undegraded for 2 hours in simulated stomach acidity. Child, R. & Tallon, M.J. (2007). "Creatine ethyl ester rapidly degrades to creatinine in stomach acid." International Society of Sports Nutrition 4th Annual Meeting
http://www.jissn.com/content/6/1/6


"In contrast to the claims of All American Pharmaceutical and Natural Foods Corp., the rate of creatinine formation from CM was found to be less than 1% of the initial dose, demonstrating that CM is extremely stable under acidic conditions that replicate those of the stomach. This study also showed that KA supplementation actually resulted in 35% greater conversion of creatine to creatinine than CM."

"CEE is claimed to provide several advantages over CM because of increased solubility and stability. In practice, the addition of the ethyl group to creatine actually reduces acid stability and accelerates its breakdown to creatinine. This substantially reduces creatine availability in its esterified form and as a consequence creatines such as San CM2 and CE2 are inferior to CM as a source of free creatine."

http://www.npicenter.com/anm/templat...8806&zoneid=28

[Cease2xist]

Stay away from CEE and try to stay with proven monohydrate.
If anything maybe try some Green Mag, or MAN Clout for a different form of creatine and see how that goes?

[BredFromFire]

guy above posted pure gold man. read his ****.


don't buy CEE, i know through experience/my friends are still wasting money on it.