what is your opinion of Longjack and tongkat Ali?

**Zachattack43** · 09-07-2003, 08:24 PM

what is your opinion of Longjack and tongkat Ali? what product did you use?

**Zachattack43** · 09-08-2003, 03:35 PM

anyone know anything at all?

**AlexPSU** · 09-08-2003, 03:40 PM

Every report and review I've seen shows that it's effective as a sexual aide to increase libido.

**Zachattack43** · 09-08-2003, 03:47 PM

can you tell me what reports and reviews? any studies? anyone tried these?

**AlexPSU** · 09-08-2003, 04:48 PM

http://www.pasakbumi.com/effects_constituents.htm

http://www.smart-publications.com/articles/030626.html

http://www.raysahelian.com/eurycoma.html

The only downside I see is that Biotest is the only company offering a product with straight Tongkat Ali/Eurycoma. We can only hope that a reputable company comes along and offers us something for less than $35...

**motiv8er** · 09-08-2003, 06:54 PM

Do you have any idea on how it works? I am not getting the idea it is blood vessel diolater. I think it may work another pathway. Your thoughts...

**AlexPSU** · 09-08-2003, 08:23 PM

Here's something I found...

"It has been suggested that Tongkat Ali may block negative feedback to the hypothalamus and pituitary glands, so the body continues to produce testosterone at elevated levels..."

http://www.npicenter.com/index.asp?a...ocumentID=4854

Pub Med returns a ton of studies on tongkat/Eurycoma however I didn't look hard enough to find an extract that specifies exactly how it works. It should be noted that no literature states that it can be used as a Viagra alternative... it seems that this herb is best used for those who lack sexual desire, rather than those who have erectile disfunction.

**motiv8er** · 09-09-2003, 05:38 AM

What I am trying to remember is what I read about it somewhere recently. I was in the FAQ section of perhaps steroids and under "How to lower your SHBG" where I think I read of it. If I am correct, this product is of extreme interest to anyone looking to maximize their testoserone.

**motiv8er** · 09-09-2003, 05:40 AM

http://www.sourcenaturals.com/products/GP1751.html

Check out this link. At least it isn't Biotest!!

**AlexPSU** · 09-09-2003, 05:46 AM

Good find... but can we trust Source Naturals?

**motiv8er** · 09-09-2003, 06:06 AM

I'll do a search.

**RippedUp** · 09-09-2003, 06:13 AM

Originally posted by motiv8er
I'll do a search.

That's what we like to hear.

**motiv8er** · 09-09-2003, 06:20 AM

What I was able to find out of Source Naturals is that they are often refered to as a "good" option for multi-/mineral. Consensus seems to be their good for that.

**AlexPSU** · 09-09-2003, 07:12 AM

I'd wait until 1 fast 400 starts offering a raw powder since I can trust that they'd have a quality extract. I really don't have a need for a libido enhancer, if anything I need a libido regulator! The bottom line is that if you're looking to use this product for muscle building I'd hold off until someone confirms it's ability. And as Ripped Up would say, I'd like to see someone get blood work done to confirm this herbs ability to increase testosterone levels.

**brucekneller** · 09-09-2003, 08:09 AM

Vitrix by Nutrex has Eurycoma in it too.

Originally posted by AlexPSU
http://www.pasakbumi.com/effects_constituents.htm

http://www.smart-publications.com/articles/030626.html

http://www.raysahelian.com/eurycoma.html

The only downside I see is that Biotest is the only company offering a product with straight Tongkat Ali/Eurycoma. We can only hope that a reputable company comes along and offers us something for less than $35...

**AlexPSU** · 09-09-2003, 08:28 AM

Originally posted by bruce*******
Vitrix by Nutrex has Eurycoma in it too.

I remember reading that, but I was talking about products that are just straight up Eurycoma.

**Zachattack43** · 09-09-2003, 12:21 PM

same here, i wonder if supplement companies are pondering the investment in those two

**Mat187** · 11-05-2003, 04:20 PM

check it here http://www.amazingherbs.com/tongkatali.html and http://www.herbal-powers.com/lj10expow.html

**libremag** · 11-05-2003, 09:20 PM

Well, the sex pill gurus at yohimbe.org seem to like the stuff. There are probably weak brands and strong brands... and of course there is the Biote$t brand. ****************** has a 50% extract for cheap.

http://www.yohimbe.org

http://www.testingtongkatali.com/testresults.htm

**blackdream71** · 11-29-2003, 06:36 PM

Originally posted by AlexPSU
Good find... but can we trust Source Naturals?

Source Naturals is an EXCELLENT company, their products are very high quality, www.iherb.com has their Tongkat Ali for $22 per bottle right now, excellent deal but it's for a short time only, i'm gonna buy 2 bottles and try it out........

**gstlynx** · 11-29-2003, 07:55 PM

In general if I can't find something at 1 not so slow 2x200(credit to dracomachine) then I go to beyond a century. and in this case they do have powdered tongkat for $7.50. I have always been pleased in the past with their quality. It is a great place to shop if you are into do it yourself kind of supplementing.

Personally, I have never tried Tongkat, because if anything I need a supplement to tame my libido .

Gene

**skinnyboy** · 11-29-2003, 09:15 PM

I'm just trying it now. Probably one of the best prospects for herbal testosterone enhancement (although a long shot).

**sicosico** · 11-30-2003, 09:29 AM

http://doublehappiness.us/testosterone.html

http://www.bodybuildingforyou.com/pr...ongkai-ali.htm

**philthyb** · 12-12-2003, 05:31 PM

started adding 400-500mg of longjack a day to protien drinks..got it from ******************....noticed increased libido...definitely!!!....the only down fall, my nips started to hurt some, kind of like the beginning signs of gyno....I have cut my dose down to 200-300mg a day...have been ok since...

**nutrabolics** · 12-12-2003, 06:46 PM

Originally posted by AlexPSU
http://www.pasakbumi.com/effects_constituents.htm

http://www.smart-publications.com/articles/030626.html

http://www.raysahelian.com/eurycoma.html

The only downside I see is that Biotest is the only company offering a product with straight Tongkat Ali/Eurycoma. We can only hope that a reputable company comes along and offers us something for less than $35...

Eurycoma Longifolia can do wonders for your libido, and as a test enhancer, but you have to make sure you are getting a potent extract in order for it to work.
Our new HYDROTEST has the highest quality Eurycoma Longifolia in it, in an extremely potent 50:1 extract.
It, however, is not just pure Eurycoma, as it also has Liquid German Tribulus, standardized for 80% protodioscin, aswell as Rhodiola, Fenugreek, and Avena Sativa...in a liquid liposome.

Such high quality grades of Eurycoma Longifolia are extremely expensive to outsource, but that still does not justify the price of RedKat. You can, however, tell the difference between "quality" Eurycoma and "lesser grade" Eurycoma, because you really can FEEL the difference.

Regards

**azzkikr117** · 12-12-2003, 09:03 PM

Beyond a Century as it for very cheap. I think $7.75 for 50 grams

**skinnyboy** · 12-12-2003, 10:37 PM

Originally posted by azzkikr117
Beyond a Century as it for very cheap. I think $7.75 for 50 grams

Bumpity bump. I'm gettin good results taking 2 grams per day in divided doses.

**motiv8er** · 12-13-2003, 05:35 PM

SB,
When you say you are "getting" results could you please be a little more descriptive. Do you mean like I am getting stronger, I am more aggressive, my penis has teeth? Thanks.

**skinnyboy** · 12-13-2003, 05:56 PM

Originally posted by motiv8er
SB,
When you say you are "getting" results could you please be a little more descriptive. Do you mean like I am getting stronger, I am more aggressive, my penis has teeth? Thanks.

The short answer is all of the above. I'll write more later.

**pu12en12g** · 06-26-2005, 08:28 AM

Has any one else tried either Longjack or Tongkat by themselves ?

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