Define un healthy

[sxgt]

I guess i consider food to do two things. Raise your cholesterol or not raise your cholesterol.

Calorie level does not relate to healthy
Vitamin level does not relate to unhealthy ( apples only have vit C)
Fat content does not relate to un healthy but rather fat content over the whole day
Sodium content MAY related to blood pressure
Trans Fat may related to heart disease.
Preservatives do not related to un healthy?

[kthxbai]

Thinking negatively like that is what nearly led me into eating disorders.

Now I put an emphasis on adding "healthy" foods instead of avoiding "unhealthy" ones.

[BeyondThePain]

Un healthy to me is anything with trans fat and a lot of sodium. Other than that all food just break down into carbs/fat/protein... Just hit your macro % and your good to go.

[DD66]

I agree....

I don't think we will ever be smart enough to know what is really unhealthy. Some things work for some, some not. My grand ma is a firm believer in drinking 7up to relieve stomach aches, nauses etc.. She drinks it everyday with her meals. She's 89 in perfect health. Science research, science "proof" would show us drinking soda loaded with cups of sugar will kill you...Obviously..were not smart enough to figure out nature.

I only see nutrition as a tool to build a better "looking" body. Better athletic performance, but as far as health. Thats a hard one. The most basic rule of thumb for health I would say its maintaining a lean physique and doing some physical activity. But whether you choose a big mac, or oatmeal and whey to achieve that. I don't think were smart enough to know whats really "healty"

[dat]

Originally Posted by DD66

science "proof" would show us drinking soda loaded with cups of sugar will kill you...

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OP: I don't really understand your post, it doesn't make much sense.

[sxgt]

basically fast food being labeled un healthy with no ground

[KOMED]

Not nutritionally dense and/or high in sugar/hfcs/sodium/saturated,trans fats

[dat]

I like to think of an overall diet as "healthy" or "unhealthy" rather than individual foods. It's fine to eat "non-nutritious" foods to fill calorie gaps to reach your (healthy) calorie goal if you've already obtained your (healthy) nutrient goals.

[sxgt]

Originally Posted by KOMED

Not nutritionally dense and/or high in sugar/hfcs/sodium/saturated,trans fats

Apples are not nutritionally dense. Are they unhealthy? What about Sat Fat is bad? I know trans Fat but why Sat Fat ? Why would large amounts of sugar be unhealthy ?


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saturated fat, trans-fatty acids and dietary cholesterol can also raise blood cholesterol

[write4passion]

Originally Posted by sxgt

Apples are not nutritionally dense. Are they unhealthy? What about Sat Fat is bad? I know trans Fat but why Sat Fat ? Why would large amounts of sugar be unhealthy ?


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saturated fat, trans-fatty acids and dietary cholesterol can also raise blood cholesterol

It's all about perspective. You might go buy a apple bran muffin at starbucks, for example. Being bran (whole wheat) 360 calories, bits of cherries, apples and some crusted topping weighing at 65g carbs, 32g sugar, 7g fiber, etc... someone could interpret that as unhealthy being that it is processed. Another person could say "Nah, that's healthy! A good amount of fiber!". So it really depends.

I personally think most anything that's processed is 'unhealthy'. Granted, I still eat some of it. Plus, you really can't get away from processed foods these days, and even if you do... who knows if it is or isn't. Total crapshoot.

Anyhow, I digress. XD

[milkman04]

Unhealthy - Fast food, fried foods, sugary drinks, candy

[damirk]

Originally Posted by milkman04

Unhealthy - Fast food, fried foods, sugary drinks, candy

well put, but i think putting....excessive amounts of...in front of that statement would make it even more true because its not going to completely sabotage your health if you treat yourself every once in a while

[JuicyAnimal]

Originally Posted by sxgt

I guess i consider food to do two things. Raise your cholesterol or not raise your cholesterol.

Calorie level does not relate to healthy
Vitamin level does not relate to unhealthy ( apples only have vit C)
Fat content does not relate to un healthy but rather fat content over the whole day
Sodium content MAY related to blood pressure
Trans Fat may related to heart disease.
Preservatives do not related to un healthy?

To many calories relate to being overweight which constitute a wide range of unhealthy side effects.

Vitamin deficiencies also cause health problems.

Trans fat "is" bad for the heart. There is no may.

Preservatives can cause health problems. Source=Master Your Metabolism by Jillian Michaels

All in all, you failed this test. A make up exam will be given at the end of the week. Be prepared.

[tagun]

Originally Posted by BeyondThePain

Un healthy to me is anything with trans fat and a lot of sodium. Other than that all food just break down into carbs/fat/protein... Just hit your macro % and your good to go.

Totally with you on this one! I'd even say "just hit your protein amount, EFAs and caloric intake and you're good to go."

Too much cholesterol (of course eat the yolk, you need some cholesterol), too much saturated fats (yep, coconut oil is fine... I'm talking about TOO MUCH) and even grams of trans fat (I'd avoid foods with 0.5 grams... Everything above I wouldn't even touch with a stick.) and not getting adequate micro-nutrients is bad for you. Maybe not directly for your body composition but they definitely have adverse effects on your overall long-term health, cardiovascular condition.

[Ironwake]

Originally Posted by sxgt

basically fast food being labeled un healthy with no ground

I think it is labeled as this because the portions they give you are out of control. You can easily eat over 1,000 calories from mcdonalds... a normal person ( read: does not exercise/lift/etc) eating this type of meal more than once a day will result in an extreme excess in calories..

[sxgt]

Originally Posted by milkman04

Unhealthy - Fast food, fried foods, sugary drinks, candy

fast food? that's just a bad statement, many fast food places offer salads and grilled chicken, Taco bell even has a Fresco menu now. Fast Food can be as health as anything else

Fried Food. What about being cooked in vegetable oil is bad?

What about sugar in soda is bad, a coke is about 55grams of Carbs/30g sugar. The FDA says 40g of sugar is the Recommended Daily Value. Drinking one soda will not be unhealthy but drinking 5 a day will be bad, but I am not talking about AMOUNTS of foods, Iam talking about the food itself.

[sxgt]

Originally Posted by Ironwake

I think it is labeled as this because the portions they give you are out of control. You can easily eat over 1,000 calories from mcdonalds... a normal person ( read: does not exercise/lift/etc) eating this type of meal more than once a day will result in an extreme excess in calories..

and eating only that one 1000 kcal meal will result in extreme calorie deficit. So its the AMOUNT of food not the food itself.

[sxgt]

Originally Posted by JuicyAnimal

To many calories relate to being overweight which constitute a wide range of unhealthy side effects.


Preservatives can cause health problems. Source=Master Your Metabolism by Jillian Michaels

1. not talking about how MANY chicken sammiches just the sammich itself at 330 calories.
2. What do preservatives do to your body besides possibly constipate you

[ManU4Life]

Healthy = something that is beneficial to your health
health = condition your body is in.

So healthy foods are foods that make you more healthy. Obviously through common sense we can look at a hamburger from most fast food places and say "hey that's unhealthy." It is loaded with empty calories and contains too much sodium, saturated/trans fat, etc... Eating them once in awhile will not harm you in the long run but they are STILL unhealthy. You can do this with many other foods.

[sxgt]

Originally Posted by ManU4Life

Healthy = something that is beneficial to your health
health = condition your body is in.

So healthy foods are foods that make you more healthy. Obviously through common sense we can look at a hamburger from most fast food places and say "hey that's unhealthy." It is loaded with empty calories and contains too much sodium, saturated/trans fat, etc... Eating them once in awhile will not harm you in the long run but they are STILL unhealthy. You can do this with many other foods.

yet you can eat a burger every day and been under Fat limits, Sodium limits, zero trans fat, and under cholesterol limits.

[JuicyAnimal]

Originally Posted by sxgt

1. not talking about how MANY chicken sammiches just the sammich itself at 330 calories.
2. What do preservatives do to your body besides possibly constipate you

1. Be more specific next time you post.

2. It would take me 30 min to write the answer to this. Sorry I don't want to.

Go to the book store and skim the book I mentioned. It answers it better then I'm willing to.

[milkman04]

Originally Posted by sxgt

fast food? that's just a bad statement, many fast food places offer salads and grilled chicken, Taco bell even has a Fresco menu now. Fast Food can be as health as anything else

Fried Food. What about being cooked in vegetable oil is bad?

What about sugar in soda is bad, a coke is about 55grams of Carbs/30g sugar. The FDA says 40g of sugar is the Recommended Daily Value. Drinking one soda will not be unhealthy but drinking 5 a day will be bad, but I am not talking about AMOUNTS of foods, Iam talking about the food itself.

You know no one goes to McDonalds for a side salad.

[Coondog773]

Originally Posted by sxgt

I guess i consider food to do two things. Raise your cholesterol or not raise your cholesterol.

Calorie level does not relate to healthy
Vitamin level does not relate to unhealthy ( apples only have vit C)
Fat content does not relate to un healthy but rather fat content over the whole day
Sodium content MAY related to blood pressure
Trans Fat may related to heart disease.
Preservatives do not related to un healthy?

you forgot about ingredients and content. there are certain things you just dont want entering your body.

[sxgt]

Originally Posted by milkman04

You know no one goes to McDonalds for a side salad.

I guess its just in my head when i see this every day! At college we have fast food places on campus, so odds are if you live on campus, have a meal card, youre eating a subway salad or wendy's salad. Even a ...Mcdonalds salad.

[koatliki]

Originally Posted by DD66

I agree....

I don't think we will ever be smart enough to know what is really unhealthy. Some things work for some, some not. My grand ma is a firm believer in drinking 7up to relieve stomach aches, nauses etc.. She drinks it everyday with her meals. She's 89 in perfect health. Science research, science "proof" would show us drinking soda loaded with cups of sugar will kill you...Obviously..were not smart enough to figure out nature.

Yeah, and I know alcoholics and chain smokers that lived longer than people who led healthy life style. Does that mean that you need to drink and smoke a lot to live long? Probably not. Just because they won genetic lottery does not mean that their lifestyle is healthy and to be followed.

I often hear people say: I know X who does Y and lived Z years, hence what X does is good. That's not a very good argument.

[wnc817]

Originally Posted by sxgt

I guess i consider food to do two things. Raise your cholesterol or not raise your cholesterol.

Calorie level does not relate to healthy
Vitamin level does not relate to unhealthy ( apples only have vit C)
Fat content does not relate to un healthy but rather fat content over the whole day
Sodium content MAY related to blood pressure
Trans Fat may related to heart disease.
Preservatives do not related to un healthy?

Generally speaking, processed foods are unhealthy. The more natural a food is, the better it is for you: lower glycemic index, free of synthetic chemicals, non-gmo, no hormones, etc.

[sxgt]

drinking one beer and smoking one cigarette is not bad for you

Drinking and smoking for 5 years is un healthy. So its really the amount you taken in that mater

Thread Conclusion. Its not the item itself thats unhealthy but rather volume of consumption.

[JuicyAnimal]

Originally Posted by sxgt

drinking one beer and smoking one cigarette is not bad for you

Drinking and smoking for 5 years is un healthy. So its really the amount you taken in that mater

Thread Conclusion. Its not the item itself thats unhealthy but rather volume of consumption.

You can't say stuff like this and not be held accountable. Had to negg you.

[ShrugginThug]

Originally Posted by sxgt

Taco bell even has a Fresco menu now.

check out the sodium on the 'healthy' fresco menu choices. now add that up if you were to eat that for more than one meal a day. fast food is ****. greasy, trans fat laden, preservative bombed, nutrition-less 'food'. i know, i ate the **** often for over 2 decades.

now, if you were to treat yourself once in a while with it, its not going to do a world of hurt. but any food that you cannot consume on a daily basis for a long period of time without likely suffering detrimental consequences- that food should be labeled unhealthy.

[sxgt]

Originally Posted by JuicyAnimal

You can't say stuff like this and not be held accountable. Had to negg you.

Originally Posted by JuicyAnimal

You can't say stuff like this and not be held accountable. Had to negg you.

Smoking one cigarette and drinking one beer will not effect your health. FACT.

neg back at you.


I explained that the negative effects come from excessive use. Next time please have the courage to question convention. Look at the french, they consume wine daily and the effects? LESS CANCER. Look up the research.