Ideas on cutting stack?

Sho Iceman Vij · 09-19-2009, 04:20 PM

Cycle experience = 7 week epi and 4 week SD/tren.

I think i may do a mini 4 week cut before xmas unassisted, then in the summer do the below cycle to cut:

SD - 1-3 (10/20/20)
Tren - 3-6 (120mg)
Hdrol - 3-7 (75mg)

Basically SD to build up strength/add mass, tren to maintain/add strength, hdrol to solidify gains and maintain them + lean out.

I know its a long way, away but just throwing about what options ive got.

If youve used any of these on a cut, how did you get on?

samson08 · 09-19-2009, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sho Iceman Vij

Cycle experience = 7 week epi and 4 week SD/tren.

I think i may do a mini 4 week cut before xmas unassisted, then in the summer do the below cycle to cut:

SD - 1-3 (10/20/20)
Tren - 3-6 (120mg)
Hdrol - 3-7 (75mg)

Basically SD to build up strength/add mass, tren to maintain/add strength, hdrol to solidify gains and maintain them + lean out.

I know its a long way, away but just throwing about what options ive got.

If youve used any of these on a cut, how did you get on?

Your liver is going to hate you, A LOT.

what previous experience you have with PH?

EDIT: Didn't see your experience at the top. Still, that's not a good way to good with 2 methyls in there.

You can go:

Hdrol/Furazadrol
Sdrol/Tren
Epi/Furazadrol
Epi/Tren or Hdrol/Tren

Sho Iceman Vij · 09-19-2009, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by samson08

Your liver is going to hate you, A LOT.

what previous experience you have with PH?

Cycle experience = 7 week epi and 4 week SD/tren. Doubt it mate, tren is a non meth and hdrol is a mild compound.

samson08 · 09-19-2009, 04:25 PM

Oh and you're 20. If you weigh 190 at 6' after a cycle of PH, that ain't good enough. I haven't used any PH yet and I weigh a solid 181. I think you can definitely gain more before a cycle and wait another year or somethin.

I know you hate hearin that, but man don't be like some of these idiots runnin around doin PH at 18

metallicide · 09-19-2009, 04:25 PM

6'0 190....how much of a cut do you need, you must not have much muscle. You dont need so much **** to cut. If you really want to run something, run a light dose to maintain muscle, lower calories, do cardio....Your hurting yourself....oh and your 20 so disregard....eat clean, do cardio. Learn how to train and eat before stepping up to this ****

samson08 · 09-19-2009, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by metallicide

6'0 190....how much of a cut do you need, you must not have much muscle. You dont need so much **** to cut. If you really want to run something, run a light dose to maintain muscle, lower calories, do cardio....Your hurting yourself....oh and your 20 so disregard....eat clean, do cardio. Learn how to train and eat before stepping up to this ****

Haha there you go OP

GoBigBlue · 09-19-2009, 04:29 PM

Mitotropin is awesome. I'd go with that alone.

Sho Iceman Vij · 09-19-2009, 04:30 PM

I appreciate your thoughts and ive been told this so many times, ive already started taking and have two cycles under my belt, im looking to get massive my overall aim is to have a muscley physique that wont hinder my movement when playing sport. Im not bothered about bulking up on roids atm or for a while, im happy with my physique atm apart from my fat.

Going to bulk without assistance, then wanted a big cut to get down to a toned physique for the summer. Not sure how much i would weigh for my 'ideal physique but i would say it would be about 200lbs ish at a lowish bf%. Also i dont wish to bench 140kg or anything like that.

Sho Iceman Vij · 09-19-2009, 04:32 PM

Like ive said ive made my choice to use and will continue too, its too late to put me off, but i do understand what you's mean.

Sho Iceman Vij · 09-19-2009, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GoBigBlue

Mitotropin is awesome. I'd go with that alone.

Yeah ive heard good things about that.

mikeylikesit629 · 09-19-2009, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sho Iceman Vij

Cycle experience = 7 week epi and 4 week SD/tren.

I think i may do a mini 4 week cut before xmas unassisted, then in the summer do the below cycle to cut:

SD - 1-3 (10/20/20)
Tren - 3-6 (120mg)
Hdrol - 3-7 (75mg)

Basically SD to build up strength/add mass, tren to maintain/add strength, hdrol to solidify gains and maintain them + lean out.

I know its a long way, away but just throwing about what options ive got.

If youve used any of these on a cut, how did you get on?

If you absolutely have to go on gear, go on something really mild---preferably anavar (oxandrolone) if you can get your hands on it. It's a bit spendy but it won't shut you down like SD or HD. You'll keep what you've got, and you don't have to worry about the sides. I'm thinking of running this down the road.

Sho Iceman Vij · 09-19-2009, 04:35 PM

What dose of tren do you's find works for you's? I used stealth labz SD/tren (10mg sd/30mg tren) I got up to 90mg tren and didnt notice no gains in strength. Plan to try 120mg the next time i use tren.

Sho Iceman Vij · 09-19-2009, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeylikesit629

If you absolutely have to go on gear, go on something really mild---preferably anavar (oxandrolone) if you can get your hands on it. It's a bit spendy but it won't shut you down like SD or HD. You'll keep what you've got, and you don't have to worry about the sides. I'm thinking of running this down the road.

What dose and for how long could i run it? SD is fine ive done it before, hdrol is mild.

metallicide · 09-19-2009, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sho Iceman Vij

I appreciate your thoughts and ive been told this so many times, ive already started taking and have two cycles under my belt, im looking to get massive my overall aim is to have a muscley physique that wont hinder my movement when playing sport. Im not bothered about bulking up on roids atm or for a while, im happy with my physique atm apart from my fat.

Going to bulk without assistance, then wanted a big cut to get down to a toned physique for the summer. Not sure how much i would weigh for my 'ideal physique but i would say it would be about 200lbs ish at a lowish bf%. Also i dont wish to bench 140kg or anything like that.

Dont say your on Roidz....yea i know people consider ph/ds steroids....but there is no comparison. Its like comparing Stag to Bud Select....

Sho Iceman Vij · 09-19-2009, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by metallicide

Dont say your on Roidz....yea i know people consider ph/ds steroids....but there is no comparison. Its like comparing Stag to Bud Select....

You know what i mean lol

mikeylikesit629 · 09-19-2009, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sho Iceman Vij

What dose and for how long could i run it? SD is fine ive done it before, hdrol is mild.

run it 20/30/30/40....and keep runnung 40mg ED until you finish 10-12 weeks on. There's no SERM needed for PCT, you can run a cortisol blocker and natty test booster if you want, but like I said, this stuff doesn't barely, if at all, shut you down.

samson08 · 09-19-2009, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeylikesit629

run it 20/30/30/40....and keep runnung 40mg ED until you finish 10-12 weeks on. There's no SERM needed for PCT, you can run a cortisol blocker and natty test booster if you want, but like I said, this stuff doesn't barely, if at all, shut you down.

...I'm speechless.
I hope this was a joke lol. Good one

loupenguin · 09-19-2009, 04:56 PM

Yo man, just eat clean, take a preworkout Supplement and go Nuts!

You gotta get that inner motivation + pre workout energy= Awesome "cut diet" workout

mikeylikesit629 · 09-19-2009, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by samson08

...I'm speechless.
I hope this was a joke lol. Good one

Well if he is going to go on something he might as well do the most mild thing out there.

samson08 · 09-19-2009, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeylikesit629

Well if he is going to go on something he might as well do the most mild thing out there.

I really really REALLY hope that your dosage is NOT for SD...I mean it'll be a lil crazy if you were referring to Epi, but it'll be COMPLETELY INSANE if it's for SD.

OP, I don't agree with what you're doing, but since you already dipped your feet and all I wish you luck. I just hope you run a PCT with a SERM b/c I don't want anything bad to happen to your boys or anything (no homo)

EDIT: and DO NOT GO ON FOR 10-12 WEEKS! HOLY ****TTTTTTTTTTTT

metallicide · 09-19-2009, 05:06 PM

im not that kind, op looks like **** for "cycle history"...wouldnt even feed him anymore ideas. let him **** himself up on his own

mikeylikesit629 · 09-19-2009, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by loupenguin

Yo man, just eat clean, take a preworkout Supplement and go Nuts!

You gotta get that inner motivation + pre workout energy= Awesome "cut diet" workout

This is what you should do (iceman)...but it looks like you already have your mind made up. Just don't hurt yourself brah.

mikeylikesit629 · 09-19-2009, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by samson08

I really really REALLY hope that your dosage is NOT for SD...I mean it'll be a lil crazy if you were referring to Epi, but it'll be COMPLETELY INSANE if it's for SD.

OP, I don't agree with what you're doing, but since you already dipped your feet and all I wish you luck. I just hope you run a PCT with a SERM b/c I don't want anything bad to happen to your boys or anything (no homo)

EDIT: and DO NOT GO ON FOR 10-12 WEEKS! HOLY ****TTTTTTTTTTTT

no bro ANAVAR....not SD lol holy ****, you would hear his liver crying inside of him.
12-14 weeks on with anavar is standard.

samson08 · 09-19-2009, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeylikesit629

no bro ANAVAR....not SD lol holy ****, you would hear his liver crying inside of him.
12-14 weeks on with anavar is standard.

ok I was gonna say...you are epic FAIL!
But Anavar is fine sorry for the misread. You scared me and nearly made my liver hurt haha

mikeylikesit629 · 09-19-2009, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by samson08

ok I was gonna say...you are epic FAIL!
But Anavar is fine sorry for the misread. You scared me and nearly made my liver hurt haha

dude you made me lol for like 5 minutes.
Nah I'm not tryin to kill the poor guy.

samson08 · 09-19-2009, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeylikesit629

dude you made me lol for like 5 minutes.
Nah I'm not tryin to kill the poor guy.

Haha you made my liver and boys lol

mikeylikesit629 · 09-19-2009, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by samson08

Haha you made my liver and boys lol

Idc if ur in the red i had to rep you hahaha.

well anyways...OP, do not run SD for 14 weeks...please.
and if you want to invest in some var it's gonna cost you a pretty penny but your body will be thanking you later on

Sho Iceman Vij · 09-20-2009, 04:10 AM

mikeylikesit629 - thanks, is anavar a meth if so isnt 10/12 weeks abit long to be on it? No way i would do SD for over 4 weeks, it will be 3 weeks max in future i didnt see much gains week 4.

Dont worry i know about pct, i have used nolva in my previous two cycles.

loupenguin - i could do that but dont want too, but i get your point, ive already got my heart set on a cycle cut.

LMAO @ samson08 and mikeylikesit629 lol

metallicide - ive made my choice so if you wanna advise me on a cycle help me, if not no point posting.

samson08 - thanks, i will use proper pct as usual.