The best Prohormone for Strength & Size?

[masterkgm]

Ok, so I know everyone is gonna say use the search button. I have already and it looks to me that a superdrol/Pheraplex combo PH/DS would be about right.. But I'm not exactly sure what kinda PH's/DS's out there would give me that? I could care less about the sides, I'm gonna be using plenty of cycle assist, SERM's, PCT, ect.... What ya'll think?

[BBmisc420196]

Ok, so I know everyone is gonna say use the search button. I have already and it looks to me that a superdrol/Pheraplex combo PH/DS would be about right.. But I'm not exactly sure what kinda PH's/DS's out there would give me that? I could care less about the sides, I'm gonna be using plenty of cycle assist, SERM's, PCT, ect.... What ya'll think?

too strong if its your 1st, dont use both of those IMO. Ive heard great things about H-Drol 6 weeks at 75mg(2 bottles) as a 1st cycle. If you have never cycled before you can put on a good 15-20 lbs and keep most of it with it and have far less sides.

[Glitcher]

To be honest, i know alot of people recommend h-drol as your first cycle, but i personally used h-drol for my first cycle and was dissappointed. Its simply too mild, dont get me wrong i gained like 10lbs but your first cycle always produces the most gains so i feel as if its a waste. I would recommend you do a cycle of sus500, its not too strong but just right for you to get a feel for steroids.

[masterkgm]

well actually bro, I've used M1T, Mdrol, and SUS500... They all worked, But I'm wanting to try and take a step up ^^^ if I could.. But thanx for the concern...

[Glitcher]

then superdrol is g

[m_zakarian]

your title is like asking what is the best kind of pizza to fill up your stomach. every ph/ds will give you size and strength. my older bro has done a few cycles of pplex and he really liked it and got some decent gains but they werent as 'dry' persay as the cycle of mdrol he recently did. the mdrol did work better imo. hes going for a sd and pplex cycle next and that should be siiick! anyway he gained about 10 lbs of muscle maybe even lost some bf. he gained massive strength also. he did a 4 week cycle of 10/20/20/20? i believe and he didnt take any protein supps and what not.. and didnt eevn really eat that well. so i think if you have your diet and training plan in check i believe that the superdrol would be great for you =D

[Obnoxious123]

Ok, so I know everyone is gonna say use the search button. I have already and it looks to me that a superdrol/Pheraplex combo PH/DS would be about right.. But I'm not exactly sure what kinda PH's/DS's out there would give me that? I could care less about the sides, I'm gonna be using plenty of cycle assist, SERM's, PCT, ect.... What ya'll think?

this line makes me think you have no idea what you're doing, because it makes no sense.

anyways, you might like a pplex and xtren stack...

[DH5]

To be honest, i know alot of people recommend h-drol as your first cycle, but i personally used h-drol for my first cycle and was dissappointed. Its simply too mild, dont get me wrong i gained like 10lbs but your first cycle always produces the most gains so i feel as if its a waste. I would recommend you do a cycle of sus500, its not too strong but just right for you to get a feel for steroids.

at your weight you shouldnt bee touching steroids

[masterkgm]

WEll yeah, that sounds about what I was thinking... Either Superdrol or PheraPlex or a stack... But which ones though? I've been looking and it seems like I'm just looking at knockoffs.. Is there a specific brand u recomend?

[BBmisc420196]

oh cool stuff then, ya Superdrol probably. It messed me up for life so im trying not to be bias against it lol. When SD 1st came out people were doing 6 week cycles at 20-30mg a day. not smart, at all. i Gotta say though, my bench went up 60lbs and I put on and KEPT 20lbs post cycle. Despite proper PCT, My natural test never recovered though ;(

[Glitcher]

at your weight you shouldnt bee touching steroids

Thanks for your opinion bud, but i could care less what you think. I've done the cost benefit analysis and made my choice.

[Supplement-Slut]

oh cool stuff then, ya Superdrol probably. It messed me up for life so im trying not to be bias against it lol. When SD 1st came out people were doing 6 week cycles at 20-30mg a day. not smart, at all. i Gotta say though, my bench went up 60lbs and I put on and KEPT 20lbs post cycle. Despite proper PCT, My natural test never recovered though ;(

What was your PCT? And is your doctor giving you test shots now to recover or something?

[BBmisc420196]

What was your PCT? And is your doctor giving you test shots now to recover or something?

nolva, was 4 years ago. im trt 4 life

[masterkgm]

this line makes me think you have no idea what you're doing, because it makes no sense.

anyways, you might like a pplex and xtren stack...

What I mean was I'm going to be taking a proper SERM (since they are both very potent DS's/PH's), PCT, and cycle assist... Also getting blood work and ect.. I'm gonna be as "safe" as possible with this, But i'm just trying to get the strongest stack I can out of this cycle....

[Supplement-Slut]

nolva, was 4 years ago. im trt 4 life

srry, but what's "trt?"

[BBmisc420196]

Thanks for your opinion bud, but i could care less what you think. I've done the cost benefit analysis and made my choice.

so wait, your 175lbs AFTER a cycle. Dude.

[BBmisc420196]

srry, but what's "trt?"

Testosterone replacement therapy.

[Supplement-Slut]

Testosterone replacement therapy.

oh ok, I see. Dayum that sux!

[masterkgm]

Oh yeah, keep up with your convo and all.... But does anyone know of a good stack of the two? Leget?

TRT? So they have u doing this sh!t for life bro? Or are they just trying to get your test levels back up?

[samson08]

Testosterone replacement therapy.

Oh wow brah I'm sorry to hear. Didn't know that.

See you should be a perfect example of if you don't know how to use PH properly (not flamin you).

People are fortunate to have a chance to use PH while they still have their testosterone in an ideal state. And for you to spread the word and give ppl the right idea of how to properly use them, that's 1+ for you. Good for you brah

[masterkgm]

Hey, uhhh Can I post a link of a product on here so everyone can tell me how legit they think it is or not?

[BBmisc420196]

Oh wow brah I'm sorry to hear. Didn't know that.

See you should be a perfect example of if you don't know how to use PH properly (not flamin you).

People are fortunate to have a chance to use PH while they still have their testosterone in an ideal state. And for you to spread the word and give ppl the right idea of how to properly use them, that's 1+ for you. Good for you brah

thx man, ya ever since I started TRT ive been very active on the board here. I just facepalm when someone says their PCT is nolvadex XT or something lol.

Im telling you If I could take back everything I would have never touched any steroid like superdrol. Ruined my sex/dating life completely. Tough to get back in when confidence has been beaten down for so long lol. But ya SD for 6 weeks was NOT smart at all, but it was new at the time and people thought 6 weeks was ok, hell if I remember right thats what the back of the bottle said.

[masterkgm]

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[samson08]

thx man, ya ever since I started TRT ive been very active on the board here. I just facepalm when someone says their PCT is nolvadex XT or something lol.

Im telling you If I could take back everything I would have never touched any steroid like superdrol. Ruined my sex/dating life completely. Tough to get back in when confidence has been beaten down for so long lol. But ya SD for 6 weeks was NOT smart at all, but it was new at the time and people thought 6 weeks was ok, hell if I remember right thats what the back of the bottle said.

Brah you've got a place in my heart, right behind my pecs. Hope you can miraculously recover and screw the TRT. I'm pullin for ya

[masterkgm]

I'm gonna hit this thread back up in the morning.... Thanx for the help and advice bro's... Oh yeah, I'll hit some people up with reps....

[Deviant Dingo]

nolva, was 4 years ago. im trt 4 life

BL man, but if the supplement did that to you that is FUKED up.... Your testes are only meant to become inactive during periods of exogenous hormones being put into your body. Something must have gone very wrong for you for them to not recover at all.

so wait, your 175lbs AFTER a cycle. Dude.

He's 5"7, easy to be very muscled and lean at that weight. Substantially

Oh yeah, keep up with your convo and all.... But does anyone know of a good stack of the two? Leget?

TRT? So they have u doing this sh!t for life bro? Or are they just trying to get your test levels back up?

M1T is the strongest, youve already used it. Maybe try Sdrol

[Triad]

I believe sus500 is to strong for someones first cycle.. I'd recommend Halotest-25

[BBmisc420196]

He's 5"7, easy to be very muscled and lean at that weight. Substantially

nah was talking to the guy who is my height that did the h-drol cycle.

[th3_original]

this line makes me think you have no idea what you're doing, because it makes no sense.

anyways, you might like a pplex and xtren stack...

You got to it before I did. I saw that line and literally laughed out loud.

[Deviant Dingo]

While you guys are broaching on the subject of PH/DS gone wrong... I stacked epistane/11OXO and Hdrol on max doses and it ****ed me up REAL bad... my blood pressure went up to 170-190 over 65-70.... It stayed that way for four months!!! I had trouble crosses the road because if a car came and i had to run id almost faint. Couldnt train the entire time cos id get splitting headaches and have terrible anxiety attacks. Its not a nice feeling waking up in the morning and your heart is pounding like youve just done a marathon. Ive also used Dbol/tbol at high doses and was fine, so these PH/DS can be very unsafe